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malaysianPotato
post Jun 24 2006, 01:42 PM

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notice i did say "exercise and healthy diet", a healthy diet isnt exactly hard to come by, 1 day of research on the internet will give you enough info for the rest of your life's dietery needs. people's misguided idea of healthy food =/= healthy food. so my saying proper exercise and healthy diet is sufficient for his needs is accurate, if he were to begin exercising and changing his diet to one which was healthy and maintaining it then he would eventually achieve his goal of being in shape and healthy.

you do not need to be a body builder to know whats good and whats not for your body, you simply need to take the time to do some research. knowing your body and what it needs =/= bodybuilding.

theres no real point going back and forth on this, he doesnt need to body build he just needs to exercise properly, eat right and maintain it.


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post Jun 24 2006, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(malaysianPotato @ Jun 24 2006, 12:43 PM)
not true, to be healthy one does not require body building. they simply need to exercise and maintain a healthy diet and lifestyle. he does not want to gain weight not bulk up, he simply wants to get into decent shape and get rid of the extra fat. he does not need to start body building to achieve this.
a gym =/= a place to bulk up, a gym is simply a place for you to exercise wether your purpose is to bulk up or run marathons or whatnot does not matter at an amature level. the gym simply supplies the facilities for you to use.

all professional level athletes have personal or team gym's for upper body training. sprinters have weight training to increase the capacity(right word for this? doh.gif ) of their leg and upper body muscles, i'm sure all runners have some sort of training which incorperates weights and such.
theres alot more than just running when it comes to competition level running, even highschool field and track teams have weight training.
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I agree, to be healthy doesnt necessary require body building.

For athletes, gym might be an optional thing. To become a better runner, u need to run more. To become a better basketball player, u need to practise more on shoots, passes and etcs.
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post Jun 24 2006, 07:46 PM

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You guys all have a point. Bodybuilding is not an ABSOLUTE prerequisite for being healthy BUT it does promote a healthy lifestyle. But there are athletes who lift weights to enhance their performance in sports.
Granted, you can't mimic a sports skill in the gym (eg. swinging a loaded barbell like a golf club thinking you'll get stronger cos that's stupid) but doing particular exercises there can improve performance significantly. (eg. squats help sprinting, military pressing and bench pressing, etc help track and field athletes tremendously)

At the end of the day, whatever you guys prefer, "bodybuilding or just fitness" is up to personal preference. There's no problem with that.

What i DO have a problem with are individuals who come in just to diss the bodybuilding lifestyle and make derogatory comments about it. I think that's what heated up a few regulars here like Flesh Wound, pizzaboy, iDk, me and a fw others.

*I'd like to think that the LYN Health and Fitness members are much better at resolving disputes compared to the people who frequent the other sections of LYN (*cough* Cupid's *cough*).
After all, no matter how varying our opinions, we're still in pursuit of the same goal ----------------> Maintaining a healthy lifestyle. 'Nuff said.

Peace.

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post Jun 24 2006, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Jun 24 2006, 07:46 PM)
What i DO have a problem with are individuals who come in just to diss the bodybuilding lifestyle and make derogatory comments about it. I think that's what heated up a few regulars here like Flesh Wound, pizzaboy, iDk, me and a fw others.
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Darklight bro I shall call you Professor X from now on.
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post Jun 24 2006, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(FleshWound @ Jun 24 2006, 07:59 PM)
Darklight bro I shall call you Professor X from now on.
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Not until he breaks his legs from challenging the limit with squats.

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post Jun 24 2006, 08:47 PM

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A "bodybuilder"

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Brad Pitt

Who looks healthier to you?
Tell me you prefer the second body.

SUSRaikkonen
post Jun 25 2006, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(bambambam @ Jun 24 2006, 08:47 PM)
user posted image
A "bodybuilder"

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Brad Pitt

Who looks healthier to you?
Tell me you prefer the second body.
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I say "Ai"

Well, we should respect each other.
I have no problems with bodybuilders.

But I strongly prefer fitness tongue.gif
Hard to achieve lorr...that's why.

Maybe try weight training after this.
Been jogging for a long time...just stay fit but NO Brad Pitt's six packs.



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post Jun 25 2006, 01:40 AM

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QUOTE(bambambam @ Jun 24 2006, 08:47 PM)
user posted image
A "bodybuilder"

user posted image
Brad Pitt

Who looks healthier to you?
Tell me you prefer the second body.
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Well. It's a matter of preference. I know a lot of guys would go with the flow of which type of physique women prefer. My sig says i bodybuild for myself, not to please women. Let's not compare 2 crazy extremes. I'm no Syed Fazli or Ronnie Coleman, I'm a natural bodybuilder and steroid free, but people would still call me pretty big. My pics say another story:-

http://www.friendster.com/6323938

So, there are women who like bodybuilder physiques and women who like fitness physiques. 'Nuff said.

Peace.

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post Jun 25 2006, 02:12 AM

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nice pics darkie...wakakak tongue.gif
from bambambam pics.....i prefer A type.......for nowadays actor.....i think i prefer Mark Wahlberg physique.. smile.gif


Chow.

SUSRaikkonen
post Jun 25 2006, 02:27 AM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Jun 25 2006, 01:40 AM)
Well. It's a matter of preference. I know a lot of guys would go with the flow of which type of physique women prefer. My sig says i bodybuild for myself, not to please women. Let's not compare 2 crazy extremes. I'm no Syed Fazli or Ronnie Coleman, I'm a natural bodybuilder and steroid free, but people would still call me pretty big. My pics say another story:-

http://www.friendster.com/6323938

So, there are women who like bodybuilder physiques and women who like fitness physiques. 'Nuff said.

Peace.
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Agree.
Maybe women finds bodybuilders sexy etc.

So does Brad Pitt. Women do think he's sexy.
Differ people, differ taste.

dark,
I saw your video in frenster.

What do you call that rod thing?

Let say you lying on a bench.
Then push that rod from your chest and push it to the air.
What do you call that move?

My question is:

Is it the same to push ups?
Easier and better result by doing that compare to push ups is it?

It's purpose is to have a 'keras' chest right?
Mine is flabby laugh.gif

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post Jun 25 2006, 02:30 AM

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I saw you pictures.
Nice biceps.
notworthy.gif bodybuilders...not easy tau to achieve body like that.

Needs determination and hard work.
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post Jun 25 2006, 02:43 AM

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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Jun 25 2006, 02:27 AM)
Agree.
Maybe women finds bodybuilders sexy etc.

So does Brad Pitt. Women do think he's sexy.
Differ people, differ taste.

dark,
I saw your video in frenster.

What do you call that rod thing?

Let say you lying on a bench.
Then push that rod from your chest and push it to the air.
What do you call that move?

My question is:

Is it the same to push ups?
Easier and better result by doing that compare to push ups is it?

It's purpose is to have a 'keras' chest right?
Mine is flabby  laugh.gif
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Hey bro. Thanks for the compliments in the second post from this. I'm glad we could find common ground.

Anyway, as for your questions, the rod is called a barbell. And that movement you're describing is called the barbell bench press.
And no, it's harder than push ups but a lot more effective because it has added resistance.
You see, in push ups, the resistance is your bodyweight. Your chest will grow for a while, but after that it'll be more of an endurance exercise since your body would have adapted to the same resistance. Adaptation.
The bench press allows you to add resistance, hence the logic heavier weights = bigger muscles.
I'll find a link to the barbell bench press for you tomorrow. Pretty damn tired now. Lol. Need sleep. smile.gif

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