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post Nov 20 2013, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(sengf @ Nov 20 2013, 03:38 PM)
haha.....hp camera how to win real camera quality??
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Qx10/qx100 are not real camera. Still some flaw coz function limited. That is why i ask.

Who say hp camera cant win against real camera? Not most of them but still from hp camera can defeat them.
Lumia 1020. Just cant zoom far only.
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post Nov 20 2013, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(xisan @ Nov 20 2013, 03:59 PM)
Qx10/qx100 are not real camera. Still some flaw coz function limited. That is why i ask.

Who say hp camera cant win against real camera? Not most of them but still from hp camera can defeat them.
Lumia 1020. Just cant zoom far only.
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post Nov 20 2013, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(xisan @ Nov 20 2013, 03:59 PM)
Qx10/qx100 are not real camera. Still some flaw coz function limited. That is why i ask.

Who say hp camera cant win against real camera? Not most of them but still from hp camera can defeat them.
Lumia 1020. Just cant zoom far only.
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Real camera as we speak is DSLR, not compact camera, not remote lens
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post Nov 20 2013, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(Plus+ @ Nov 20 2013, 04:01 PM)
Real camera as we speak is DSLR, not compact camera, not remote lens
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so my Olympus OM-D E-M1 is not real camera? cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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post Nov 20 2013, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(jloi @ Nov 20 2013, 04:02 PM)
so my Olympus OM-D E-M1 is not real camera?  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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compact camera with changeable lens smile.gif
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post Nov 20 2013, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(Plus+ @ Nov 20 2013, 04:04 PM)
compact camera with changeable lens smile.gif
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not exactly compact pun tongue.gif
I rather it call Mirrorless camera tongue.gif
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QUOTE(jloi @ Nov 20 2013, 04:06 PM)
not exactly compact pun tongue.gif
I rather it call Mirrorless camera tongue.gif
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ok ok call it Mirrorless camera smile.gif hahaha
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post Nov 20 2013, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(xisan @ Nov 20 2013, 03:59 PM)
Qx10/qx100 are not real camera. Still some flaw coz function limited. That is why i ask.

Who say hp camera cant win against real camera? Not most of them but still from hp camera can defeat them.
Lumia 1020. Just cant zoom far only.
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QX10/100 not real camera but the spec i think is already on par / better than many compact camera.

still lack some feature is true la like flash and OIS.
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post Nov 20 2013, 04:35 PM

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this is a phone and camera not camera and phone so don't expect perfection la... but still better than Pureview and Lumia because crap OS just craps totally... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 20 2013, 04:38 PM

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nothing perfect in the world la whistling.gif

Both shoot at ISO 1600

Z1 VS 1020

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post Nov 20 2013, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(xisan @ Nov 20 2013, 03:59 PM)
Qx10/qx100 are not real camera. Still some flaw coz function limited. That is why i ask.

Who say hp camera cant win against real camera? Not most of them but still from hp camera can defeat them.
Lumia 1020. Just cant zoom far only.
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this both model js function limited n no screen , but both also real camera, Lumia 1020 also cant fight with QX100, QX100 photo quality already like normal DSLR, really very nice quality shoot, haha
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QUOTE(Plus+ @ Nov 20 2013, 04:01 PM)
Real camera as we speak is DSLR, not compact camera, not remote lens
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DSLR is call professional camera, real camera is include DSLR n DC, haha
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post Nov 20 2013, 04:43 PM

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Everybody talking about camera hahaha
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post Nov 20 2013, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(ckchan @ Nov 20 2013, 04:12 PM)
QX10/100 not real camera but the spec i think is already on par / better than many compact camera.

still lack some feature is true la like flash and OIS.
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both also real camera, see what sensor both used , same like DC, but both js like a toy more then camera only, hahah.......
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post Nov 20 2013, 04:47 PM

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Kalau aku designer phone, I would just give bare essential on back cam and started to improve on front cam.

In this age of camwhoring and selfies, I bet a lot of people would pay good money for a phone that have decent front cam.
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QUOTE(emino @ Nov 20 2013, 04:47 PM)
Kalau aku designer phone, I would just give bare essential on back cam and started to improve on front cam.

In this age of camwhoring and selfies, I bet a lot of people would pay good money for a phone that have decent front cam.
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QUOTE(reijikageyama @ Nov 20 2013, 02:54 PM)
i don't think that works. you need to be on 534 to use vroot then only use OTA update to 257.

but i may be wrong.
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Yes u are right. For now u must revert to .534 first in order to root with vroot, then only update thru OTA..
change of superSU app can be done anytime as long as u hv root access..
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QUOTE(sengf @ Nov 20 2013, 04:43 PM)
both also real camera, see what sensor both used , same like DC, but both js like a toy more then camera only, hahah.......
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haha... dunno where it should be categorize la...

btw, i have a question about QX10/100...

in normal compact camera, we use to snap a few shots, off it, walk to next destination, switch it on and snap a few pic again, and so on...

so for QX10/100, in this case each and every time when we switch off the camera and smartphone, the connection link will disconnect? when we want to snap a few shots again and switch on both units, we have to pair it again?
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QUOTE(jloi @ Nov 20 2013, 04:49 PM)
Beli Oppo N1 ba tongue.gif
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lol +1.. screw all front cam at one shot..
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QUOTE(WindChaseR @ Nov 20 2013, 04:49 PM)
Yes u are right. For now u must revert to .534 first in order to root with vroot, then only update thru OTA..
change of superSU app can be done anytime as long as u hv root access..
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currently busy with work piling up so don't really have time to get involved in xda sad.gif

so not sure if 257 has a new way to be rooted other than 534 biggrin.gif

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