Many simple joys of life are free. No need to be a millionaire to be happy. I dun like ppl who show off. U Got $ , no $ - who cares! Syiok sendiri saja! 

Too slow to my liking. Given time to the flippers, they can plan to get out and the effect is not significant any more.

That's why crisis always come as a surprise when nobody predicted. Now we all here predicted the market will crash/slow down, everyone will get prepared and the effect of crisis will be smooth out. Damn !

Bears gathering 1.5 hours before 2014, hoping 2014 will be their year at last? 

I'm not convinced there'll be a property crash or serious correction. Malaysian market is special, it always act differently from overseas mart like Singapore or HK.

Furthermore, the property bulls have a secret weapon - the hundreds of thousands of Malaysians making good money overseas who are still attached to Malaysia and who want to buy homes here for investment, retirement etc. when I first get started in property in 2008, the "investors" that I hanged out in a forum are 90% Malaysians based overseas - Spore, Australia, UK etc

But I won't mind if there's a property crash - 50% also I'm not scared. I want to buy more properties. There'll be the time to separate the men from the boys 

Some special cases like PRs working in Singapore are the main buyers in Iskandar, KL and Penang.  Mostly as holiday home and for retirement.

200 plus house in TTDI Groove still elenena.lily
200 plus in kajang 2 exp nadayu 92
200 plus in bandar puncak saujana new phase coming
50 plus in sauijana villas
50 in bandar putra mahkota bangi
300 plus in kota warisan sepang
40 1080 residence villa
50 plus taman jelok impian
new bunglow project opposite jelok impian 40 x 102 feet one
50 units of bunglows in laville cheras selatan..
Some 100 plus house in sungai chua call wat silk someting..
100 plus double storey in bukit belimbing area selling 1million
BANDAR MAHKOTA CHERAS ( BMC)
60 plus double storey section 5 bandar mahkotA cheras choontian..
40 units semi d selling 1.4 M east part 72
20 units cheras vista 3 Bmc
30 units of bunglow by TAN MING corp.. 2.88 M
50 plus dounble storey units desa budiman
200 plus double storey in palm walk 3..selling 780k
100 plus villa bandar bukit suria 1, 2 &3
200 plus double storey palm walk .
100 plus cheras tropinaca
100 plus lumchang Corp westiara etc u guys sure got this just when u pass cheras highway u see overhead MRR2.
400 plus comfirm vacany setia echo hills
200 plus bandar teknology double storey
at least 300 plus our beloved southville project still keeping sms of the balloting still on despite the new DATA PROTECTION ACT..
300 plus seri pajam u guys confirm know
100 plus gargen residence villa by mah sing
this is all I can remember this morning.. havent include other area like shah alam.. kota keminung.. puchong..
Seri kembangan.. serdang.. d3ngkil.. putrajaya.. klang.. bukit jalil.. mantin.. banting...rawang 2.. bukit beruntung according to some coming up.. bukit raja.. jinjang so many klang valley.. guys please contribute.. these havent include THOSE SOFO.. SOFOS.. SERVICE APARTMENT.. CONDO.. AND ONLY SRLANGOR HAVENT INCLUDE THOSE OLD HOUSING AREA READY TO SELL..

I think only some concrete numbers will tell the truths. Instead of argueing whether u r right or wrong, why dun you start with household incomes, house/condo supplies, etc, to see whether this prop market will be up or down.  If u r blessed with first hand info with people around u, judge their abilities to further invest or start selling, then you get a clear pictures.

When the price curve is in the middle, no one can tell for sure it is going up or down. Only when the price is beyond the reach of most, it will stagnate and fall! Is this prop market beyond reach yet ? Let the number tell u.

How big and reliable exactly is this market? Ask those people who assume so and i bet they cant even tell for sure. Why put so much hope on a vague market? A lot of flippers / short term investors dont know for sure who their target is. Many times in recent years theyre likely to be selling to other late entry flippers disguised as 'buying for kids, holiday home etc'. Its like running an MLM business over the past 5-6 years.

As someone mentioned earlier, this thread has so much bloodlust, sadism, vengeance and jealousy. Really sickens me.

Also, flippers does not necessarily not contribute anything to the property scene. They held the property during its most vulnerable period, shouldn't they be somewhat rewarded of that risk? It's all about risk and returns, basic economics.

I learnt this from showtime747, it is cash on cash return. It is a highly profitable operations by flippers in the past few yrs.

Rental market will be good as owners will be getting a lot of Gen-Y as tenants..

Thanks for your observation. The potential demand is HUGE in the coming years. Potential demand either in renting, or if they can afford, subsale purchase.

Huge shortage in housing supply. How can price come down?

This thread is becoming unrealistic. I am worried what pressure can cause.

My friend involve in land transaction business involving multi million ringgit for hundred and thousand acres of land..

He owns the firm himself and only involve business with China, in other words, his firm only focus on selling land and properties to China customer and developer.. hot land purchase now is Semenyih.

Yes, it is happening.. and how are they gonna launch? I have no idea..

His previous project like sepang gold coast, mirage by the lake and some other condos around klcc.. they dont provide bus but fetch them with bmw from klia to the site, bring them makan, stay in good hotel, close deal and send them to airport.. its a Melawat sambil Membeli kind of tour..  he give talks about msia property when he goes to china..

I am just ikan bilis .. lol..

You playing with ego game to sell your property now?
You sound pretty desperate to me.  

One correction: it seems that the actual 100k supply refers to entire Malaysia.  For KL only, the supply should be much lower, which points to undersupply.  I have other accurate data, but I will crunch them some other time for KL.

I also can't see a "crash" or price collapse, I think the more likely scenario would be price stagnate.  Unless there is a trigger event (don't know what it is) that scares everyone into holding back.  For price to collapse Banks have to take action and force sell, as most people will not fire sell their properly unless they are being pushed. 

banks will force sell one or two cases here and there but wont do it en masse even when the market turns as they will be killing themselves ... moreover I doubt the govt will let them do it.  Just like how the govt reacted in UK & US "gently" urging banks not to foreclose if possible

which like bukit beruntung (talam) as per advertising good return rate, full facilities bla bla bla, caipital city location and so on... but now... aiya...

This going to be a never ending discussion different ppl speculate diff outcome ... in the end is speculation only.

My point of view is there is plenty space for msia property to grow as Msia property is consider cheap in asia region and another main factor is labour, material ,etc cost is increasing therefore it reflects to the prop price