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Investment THE CLIO RESIDENCE @ IOI RESORT CITY [OT], Pamper you in a Resort serenity

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nkhong
post May 24 2014, 03:02 AM

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QUOTE(Nidz @ May 22 2014, 08:41 PM)
Since I am planning to buy this project for own stay, I do not know whether it will be a wise decision for investment.

But, from my observation, let's say that I decided to stay in another place when this project is finally finished. I don't think that I will have trouble in selling this unit or renting it out. My points are:

2) This project is the newest residential project in that township. The existing Puteri Palma was already sold out (except for their penthouse) and currently fetching a good rental rate at rm2k - rm3k. The buyer of this project will have the advantage of first mover in this township. Provided that all things stay the same and the property bubble doesn't burst, the developer will almost always increase the selling price of the next phase development in that township. So, I can say that these first mover will have the cost advantage of their units.

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Hi taiko, since u work near this place,
Any idea who is target tenants if wanna rent out? Or any idea who are puteri palma current tenants? Easily rent out?
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post May 24 2014, 07:04 AM

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QUOTE(nkhong @ May 24 2014, 03:02 AM)
Hi taiko, since u work near this place,
Any idea who is target tenants if wanna rent out? Or any idea who are puteri palma current tenants? Easily rent out?
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Last I visited, puteri Palma seems have many vacant units n the carpark also has many vacant bays

There are some Koreans staying there too

The new mall should bring in more people

IOI advertised in the Star yesterday to sell their unsold penthouse
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post May 24 2014, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(CMW123 @ May 24 2014, 07:04 AM)
Last I visited, puteri Palma seems have many vacant units n the carpark also has many vacant bays

There are some Koreans staying there too

The new mall should bring in more people

IOI advertised in the Star yesterday to sell their unsold penthouse
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The vacant units are unsold or sold ?
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post May 24 2014, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ May 24 2014, 08:49 AM)
The vacant units are unsold or sold ?
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post May 24 2014, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(CMW123 @ May 24 2014, 07:04 AM)
Last I visited, puteri Palma seems have many vacant units n the carpark also has many vacant bays

There are some Koreans staying there too

The new mall should bring in more people

IOI advertised in the Star yesterday to sell their unsold penthouse
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How much is the rental rate there?
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post May 24 2014, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(jepakazoid_82 @ May 24 2014, 12:41 PM)
How much is the rental rate there?
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Hardly find any listing even in iproperty, seems like the sub sale transactions are pretty inactive
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post May 24 2014, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(CMW123 @ May 24 2014, 12:46 PM)
Hardly find any listing even in iproperty, seems like the sub sale transactions are pretty inactive
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I have to disagree with that.i was looking for 1 around 1 year ago,the price was around 530k for 1200 sqft if I not mistaken. That was for the oldest phase. Seems like the rental there is good that it can cover installments that's why no 1 willing to let go now,while waiting for further appreciation because of the mall.
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QUOTE(CaptainCool @ May 24 2014, 01:33 PM)
I have to disagree with that.i was looking for 1 around 1 year ago,the price was around 530k for 1200 sqft if I not mistaken. That was for the oldest phase. Seems like the rental there is good that it can cover installments that's why no 1 willing to let go now,while waiting for further appreciation because of the mall.
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Nobody is selling not mean inactive sub sale meh....

At this price and being a decent family size unit, to fetch RM2xxx rental to cover installment is reasonable but did u notice that the whole place is very quiet n many vacant units even for the older phase...so it's good rental yield for units that were able to rent out but there are also many units that could not get tenants as unlikely there are so many owner are not bothered to rent out

Believed that the price should have gone up higher now in view of the mall opening especially this is a very low density project surrounded by a golf course
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post May 24 2014, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(nkhong @ May 24 2014, 03:02 AM)
Hi taiko, since u work near this place,
Any idea who is target tenants if wanna rent out? Or any idea who are puteri palma current tenants? Easily rent out?
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Honestly, I have no idea who are the target tenants. Since I am buying this for my own stay, I did not consider that factor in my decision.
I also don't think this property will attract a lot of tenant now. But once this township is mature, say maybe 5-10 years from now, that will be different situation altogether.
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QUOTE(Nidz @ May 24 2014, 05:53 PM)
Honestly, I have no idea who are the target tenants. Since I am buying this for my own stay, I did not consider that factor in my decision.
I also don't think this property will attract a lot of tenant now. But once this township is mature, say maybe 5-10 years from now, that will be different situation altogether.
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Buy for ownstay easier, within affordable budget, like the location and property just buybuybuy. Buy for investment if cannot rent out in 1 year installment plus maintenance fee very siong.
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Last time when I wanted to buy there agent told me rental can target universities and hospitals nearby woh. How true is that no one knows,and in the end I also didn't buy.a bit regret actually.hahaha
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QUOTE(CaptainCool @ May 24 2014, 07:35 PM)
Last time when I wanted to buy there agent told me rental can target universities and hospitals nearby woh. How true is that no one knows,and in the end I also didn't buy.a bit regret actually.hahaha
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finally found an agent who tells the truth... tongue.gif
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post May 24 2014, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(nkhong @ May 24 2014, 03:02 AM)
Hi taiko, since u work near this place,
Any idea who is target tenants if wanna rent out? Or any idea who are puteri palma current tenants? Easily rent out?
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I own a unit there already rented out for 3 years.. so far dont have any problem looking for tenant..

1st year rented to lim kok weng middle east, rm 3300monthly
2nd kind of desperate rent it out to african rm2800 pay one year advance
3th indian expactrade working in cyberjaya rm 3000 monthly

Target here mainly expactrade, mostly from cyberjaya and uni student from limkokweng..if u desperate africant will be ur last resort....can rent out anytime..

In mine opinion main reason that many empty unit there is all owner all kaya kaya dato and datin. All waiting for the mall ready the sell off.. they dont intend to rent it out anyway or choosy on tenant I dont know..haha

2nd is the owners there dont like rent to student and middle eastern people.

3th the owners looking for rental like rm 5k or 6k. By saying how much money they put into the id and renovations. In reality how many people can affort that rental. If for investment purpose dont have to renovate untill so luxury..

For expactrade in cyberjaya thier company only give rm 3k for them for house rental anything above 3k rental be very hard to look for tenant.

Above just mine opinion, I maybe can be wrong..chill...haha


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QUOTE(leelee1988 @ May 24 2014, 10:14 PM)
I own a unit there already rented out for 3 years.. so far dont have any problem looking for tenant..

1st year rented to lim kok weng middle east, rm 3300monthly
2nd kind of desperate rent it out to african rm2800 pay one year advance
3th indian expactrade working in cyberjaya rm 3000 monthly

Target here mainly expactrade, mostly from cyberjaya and uni student from limkokweng..if u desperate africant will be ur last resort....can rent out anytime..

In mine opinion main reason that many empty unit there is all owner all kaya kaya dato and datin. All waiting for the mall ready the sell off.. they dont intend to rent it out anyway or choosy on tenant I dont know..haha

2nd is the owners there dont like rent to student and middle eastern people.

3th the owners looking for rental like rm 5k or 6k. By saying how much money they put into the id and renovations. In reality how many people can affort that rental. If for investment purpose dont have to renovate untill so luxury..

For expactrade in cyberjaya thier company only give rm 3k for them for house rental anything above 3k rental be very hard to look for tenant.

Above just mine opinion,  I maybe can be wrong..chill...haha
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Thanks for the good info, rental looks attractive, how much furnishing u provide?


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Im consider lucky.. just do basic fan and light furnishing only basiclly empty unit when rented out..all the furnishing inside is left by the middle eastern students. Rented out empty but when they move out become fully furnish mine unit..haha
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Puteri Palma Condo owners are mostly those buying for own stay / retirement and currently, the mall and commercial area are not ready yet; massive construction on going, this might be one of the reason why the occupancy rate is lower. Since is for own stay, some would just left their units vacant and not take the hassle to rent and manage the tenants. Some will just keep it as vacation use, kinda like weekend getaway from KL city? Another reason is, the phase 3 units were built then sell, if you say 2 years ago numbers of the units are not sold / completed transaction / renovation until end of last year / early this year, the vacancy obviously has increased.

The owners are good mixed of locals, more towards chinese and retired expatriate from korea, japan, vietnam, china, singapore and western country etc.

Rental wise, the target market are the expats working in Cyberjaya MNCs ie Dell, AT&T, Shell, HP; Pilot & Stewardess from Air Asia, MAS, Korean Airlines, Lecturers from the international schools ie Alice Smith, Nexus, John Hopkins and also the overseas students came here for study in the international schools, together with the guardian / parents. Also, the employees around serdang, sepang and bangi industrial area.

The rental rate for say 1,400 sq. ft. units can fetch around RM2,300-RM2,500 for a basic furnished unit with light fittings, fans, air con, kitchen cabinet, curtains and wardrobe. The units initially already comes with the air con, kitchen cabinets, water heater and shower screens. Whereas for a fully furnished units, the rental is around RM2,800-RM3,300 depend on type of furnishing provides. For bigger unit, may rent up to RM4,000 and units with interior design asking around RM5000-6000/month. Average return we are looking at around 4% for basic furnished and 6% for fully furnished units. (the rates are not applicable if you are buying from the subsale market now tongue.gif) Subsales current transacted price at around RM550-600/sf. However, the demand >>> supply since there is still huge potential for appreciation and a lot owners are not willing to sell. Some unit sold recently mostly the few expat here previously for business purposes is now moving out from Malaysia.

The same rental you may expect for The Clio residences and most likely the units will also furnished with air cons, kitchen cabinets, water heater and maybe shower screens too. If that's the case, your furnishing cost to prepare the units for rent will be very minimum. around RM10k for basic furnished units with built-in wardrobe.

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QUOTE(vinctan88 @ May 30 2014, 03:08 PM)
Puteri Palma Condo owners are mostly those buying for own stay / retirement and currently, the mall and commercial area are not ready yet; massive construction on going, this might be one of the reason why the occupancy rate is lower. Since is for own stay, some would just left their units vacant and not take the hassle to rent and manage the tenants. Some will just keep it as vacation use, kinda like weekend getaway from KL city?  Another reason is, the phase 3 units were built then sell, if you say 2 years ago numbers of the units are not sold / completed transaction / renovation until end of last year / early this year, the vacancy obviously has increased.

The owners are good mixed of locals, more towards chinese and retired expatriate from korea, japan, vietnam, china, singapore and western country etc.

Rental wise, the target market are the expats working in Cyberjaya MNCs ie Dell, AT&T, Shell, HP; Pilot & Stewardess from Air Asia, MAS, Korean Airlines, Lecturers from the international schools ie Alice Smith, Nexus, John Hopkins and also the overseas students came here for study in the international schools, together with the guardian / parents. Also, the employees around serdang, sepang and bangi industrial area.

The rental rate for say 1,400 sq. ft. units can fetch around RM2,300-RM2,500 for a basic furnished unit with light fittings, fans, air con, kitchen cabinet, curtains and wardrobe. The units initially already comes with the air con, kitchen cabinets, water heater and shower screens. Whereas for a fully furnished units, the rental is around RM2,800-RM3,300 depend on type of furnishing provides. For bigger unit, may rent up to RM4,000 and units with interior design asking around RM5000-6000/month. Average return we are looking at around 4% for basic furnished and 6% for fully furnished units. (the rates are not applicable if you are buying from the subsale market now tongue.gif) Subsales current transacted price at around RM550-600/sf. However, the demand >>> supply since there is still huge potential for appreciation and a lot owners are not willing to sell. Some unit sold recently mostly the few expat here previously for business purposes is now moving out from Malaysia.

The same rental you may expect for The Clio residences and most likely the units will also furnished with air cons, kitchen cabinets, water heater and maybe shower screens too. If that's the case, your furnishing cost to prepare the units for rent will be very minimum. around RM10k for basic furnished units with built-in wardrobe.
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Vinct88, how many car parks would be provided for clio residence?
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QUOTE(Stephanie_x @ May 30 2014, 03:51 PM)
Vinct88,  how many car parks would be provided  for clio residence?
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Based on the SA explaination, each unit comes with 2 car park.
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post May 30 2014, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(Nidz @ May 30 2014, 03:54 PM)
Based on the SA explaination, each unit comes with 2 car park.
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So.. we would expect 2 car parks, free air conditionals , free kitchen cabinet, free water heater, free shower screen ? 😆
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remember someone mentioned that they will build a bridge link to ioi city mall? anyone can confirm? i checked, it's opposite the highway, so it's basically not 'walkable ' to the mall...

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