darn it..sounds like i no need go to dslr yet frm there...hehehe~i tot i had used all of fz7...but from ur pic..i know its not yet all...

well....seems like i still will be stick wif fz7 for quite some time frm now..hehehe~

i ve never give up my cam, till i no want to sell them include the minolta.
it is not about device problem , but skill, i only will change/jump when my machine cant catch up my skill

even u have a a very good dslr, the result only best in sharpness, and super clear. it is about how u take a "nice" pict, and not a "clear" pict

This post has been edited by tongyam: May 9 2007, 04:18 PM

Agree with you 110% tongyam.

I am still learning and don't consider my own picture up to par in an artistic way yet. Must learn to "see" better. That is why there are many times when people wonder "what is that guy doing squating by the longkang and bushes?" When I tell them I am trying to take an artistic shot, they say no wonder all art people are weird!

yo bro...
ask u hor...
bout the close up filter u used ....
actually how the close up filter function de har?
can teach teach share share abit on it?

aero99, I would not give up my FZ7 yet too. I feel if we are not gonna shoot sports pictures, or wearing binocular as spectacle (noise hunter), we can do without DSLR. I have both but I have more fun with FZ7 any day.

My boss have an old P&S Olympus and he always complain that it took lousy pictures and he wanted to upgrade to my camera (FZ7) cause he said it can take better pictures. At lunch time, I took his Olympus to KLCC park to take some pictures. When I come back I show him the pictures. You know what he says? "you went to the camera shop to repair the camera oredi ah? Now look so nice"

Its not the camera, it's the photographer that needs repair

i understand the meaning...lets we both together work out on the FZ7..heheheh~

close up filter just like "fong dai kiang" everything become big

but...for close up only

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Added on May 9, 2007, 5:20 pmu can buy a rm8 magnifier to do close up effect mah

This post has been edited by tongyam: May 9 2007, 05:20 PM

Actual it is very easy only. Depends on how many filter you buy. The set I got is +1,+2 and +4. There is also +3 and +10 in the market but have to order.

What you do is attached the FZ7 lens adapter first then the +4 follows by +2 then +1. This will give you +7. Always attached the biggest number first. You'll find that you can focus closer now. The best way for me is to move forward or backwards abit and use the zoom a bit too. It is hard for me to explain unless you explore it yourself. Some people advice to use manual focus but for me FZ7 98% of the time correct. Also try to use a bigger apeture number to increase DOF.

for close up dun use zoom better, it will increase bokeh depend wat level u wan to.

when my camera doing macro, only allow X2,if more than tht it will lost focus, even with MF

hmmm....juz do close up?
mean it can provide nearly distance for me when i shot macro??

fz7 default is 5cm ... if a closup +4 mean can go to ???
or tat is not wat it mean for close up?

sorry..but i still not really catching the meaning~

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Added on May 9, 2007, 5:32 pmhmmm...mean if only use +4 is not enuf?
heard frm fren saying hoya close up +4 selling rm35+- ...and my fren already got 1...
mayb find 1 day drop by his hse n try it out see how it really use to ~
if ngam might get one myself~

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Added on May 9, 2007, 5:36 pmabang tomyam...bokeh mean apa?

This post has been edited by aero99: May 9 2007, 05:36 PM

FZ7 macro mode can go very near to your subject. The thing is, if you are shooting a fly, it will notice you are coming close and will fly away no? With the +7 Closeup filter you can stand just a bit back and zoom in on it. This way not only will the fly not notice you but you can have a bigger manification than the normal macro mode. But because our FZ7 dont have a manual zoom ring on our lens, it is easier to move forward or backward abit to get it in sharp focus. You can zoom just a bit if too much, picture quality not nice.

Lastly, a tip: use tripod or beanbag. I dont have beanbag so I use my bantal busuk

so close to object for wat? no enug lighting lah shot ulat also run la so close
ur cam 5 cm, oledi enuf near loh, + use abit zoom then mai ok loh, or u go buy macro lens lor, 200rm+ only

bokeh mean, object clear, oth blur out, arron dai goh is bokeh master

dop = decrease bokeh.

i still NOOB in this term la ,every time need to ask aichiban si fu

oic...so erm..frm my understanding lah...
mean if no using close up filter u hav to very near to the objhect if do macro...

but wif the closeup filter (depand on + ?) mean u can hav same distance witout moving forward?

bean beg...tats the thing im gonnna diy soon ..but not yet know which bean better and use wat kind of thing to hav them inside...

so for the meantime only can use my tripid when need some steady shot for macro~

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Added on May 9, 2007, 6:03 pmso can this pic consider bokeh????


This post has been edited by aero99: May 9 2007, 06:03 PM

"oic...so erm..frm my understanding lah...
mean if no using close up filter u hav to very near to the objhect if do macro...

but wif the closeup filter (depand on + ?) mean u can hav same distance witout moving forward?

Correct! and the manification is also much much bigger! (depends on how many ++ you add)


bean beg...tats the thing im gonnna diy soon ..but not yet know which bean better and use wat kind of thing to hav them inside...

so for the meantime only can use my tripid when need some steady shot for macro"

If you have those small tripod can use also

hmmm...seems like i really need to go find my fren borrow his close up filter then...ya...juz 1 more question...will the filter downgrade the pic quality? juz curios to ask~

no mini tripod on hand...got try few on market..but all kenot tahan one...still looking for nice one...

Dont zoom too much and it's ok. I see if I can show you some pictures 2moro. But to exp it yourself from your friend's filter firsthand is better.

wow..good good... waiting for ur pic...ehh bro..issit possible u take same pic of before n after the usage of the closeup filter?
i guess frm there might gave us more clearer thought of it~
juz my 2cent~

his filter not yet use one ohh..juz brought it few days ago frm desmond there....now im the one who try it out 1st..wakakakk

I've joint 2 image for you to see the difference.



This is taken with FZ7 Macro mode. This is the closes I can get to get to a big shot of the 1 cent and the cap. Distance from lens to subject is 3cm. As you can see, my camera cast a shadow on the lens cap.



This is taken with HOYA close up filter. Distance form subject is 13cm. Optical zoom is 12X.



Distance form subject is 13cm. Optical zoom is 16.5X.



Distance form subject is 13cm. Optical zoom is 66X.

You don't have to zoom all the way to 66X to take a macro shot. Use whatever distance that will work to make your picture nice. It's not about the max zoom but it's about the picture that maters. Hope this helps.

hey my brothers... sorry to interrupt but i'm really thinking of buying the lumix fz8. i was planning to buy the s3is but now i'm caught between..
any idea>? since the fz8 uses rechargeable lithium batteries, where can i buy extra ones from? any shop that sells lumix accessories? thankz!!