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Andrewtst
post Jun 2 2019, 03:52 AM

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QUOTE(MorningBoyz @ Jun 2 2019, 12:11 AM)
OK good. then checked spec sheet, LG SK9Y got:
1x optical in
1x 3.5mm in
1x HDMI in (4K HDR pass through)
1x ARC HDMI out (4K HDR  pass through)

So will my setup like this correct?

1) PS4 pro HDMI out connect to TV HDMI in + optical out connect to LG SK9Y optical in
2) TV box HDMI out connect to LG SK9Y HDMI in
3) LG SK9Y ARC HDMI out connect to TV ARC HDMI in

This ensure my PS4 pro can play 4K HDR direct to TV but audio will be using optical since PS4 pro dont have dobly atmost (unlike xbox one S).
Then I will be able to play 4K HDR video content from TV box with 4K HDR pass through LG SK9Y to TV.
Then with ARC HDMI between LG SK9Y and TV, occasionally I can play movie/audio direct from TV to LG SK9Y without TV box (though this may not work as per read in this thread).

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LG SK9Y big cons is only have one HDMI-IN, so you need to choose either one from your device.
- PS4 Pro or TV Box.

Decide which one can give you more movies in lossless audio (Dolby Atmos, Dolby TrueHD, Multi-channel PCM).

2nd throw away optical in, optical only can pass thru lossy audio and you won't need it.

Assume as you said PS4 Pro only up to lossy audio support.
But I think PS4 Pro support lossless track in Blu-ray, for local downloadable content wise I no idea.

I suggest below connection if you don't have a lot blu-ray and PS4 Pro support local downloadable content is not good.

1) TV Box to LG SK9Y HDMI-IN (for lossless audio)
2) PS4 Pro to TV HDMI-IN (for lossy audio)
3) TV to LG SK9Y HDMI ARC (for lossy audio)

As for 4K HDR, don't worry, it is fully support in LG SK9Y HDMI-IN and HDMI ARC.

Just remember,

SoundBar HDMI-IN give you lossless audio track as long your device connected to it support.
SoundBar HDMI ARC give you lossy audio track and may have sound delay issue.

This post has been edited by Andrewtst: Jun 2 2019, 04:09 AM
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post Jun 2 2019, 04:02 AM

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QUOTE(GHOSTVIC @ Jun 2 2019, 01:45 AM)
Bro i just not very clear about this audio passing through method. Tv has no dolby audio dolby atmos or dolby digital or digital plus feature, so we play a movie from an app.example netflix in tv itself. we cannot get dolby audio.. since just normal tv speaker

But when normal tv connect with a sound bar which has all audio features atmos dd dd+ , should be able to get dolby audio right..
Playing a movie in tv netflix app. Video playing in tv, audio signal.pushed to soundbar which is able detect all format..then why tv must be dolby compatible?
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A lot TV have Dolby Digital. You can get Dolby Digital by connecting your TV to SoundBar HDMI ARC, your Netflix can playback in Dolby Digital.

Some TV also have Dolby Atmos in Dolby Digital Plus, example LG OLED TV and by connecting to SoundBar HDMI ARC, your Netflix can playback in Dolby Atmos in Dolby Digital Plus, as Dolby Digital Plus still is lossy track where still capable pas thru HDMI ARC. ** Maybe this connection is not correct for LG TV because this SoundBar have a special connection type call LG TV and I don't have LG TV, thus I no idea what is the special of LG TV connection type.

The Netflix able to playback in above mentioned support track also depends on the Netflix apps in your device support or not as well.

To get sound format you need, it needs to be both side support.

Beside this, If the device can decode and output as multi-channel PCM, you get the exact same audio track (up to Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD MA) even though this SoundBar not support DTS HD MA, but due to the device you connected to the SoundBar HDMI-IN is support decode to Multi-channel PCM first before it pass thru to this SoundBar. In the SoundBar will display as PCM.

Decode to Multi-Channel PCM not included Dolby Atmos or DTS: X because this both new format is just a metadata on top of the Audio Track (either it is Dolby Digital Plus (only Netflix and iTunes movie use this format) Dolby TrueHD or DTS HD MA) The track itself either Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD or DTS HD MA is decode to multi-channel PCM but not the metadata of Dolby Atmos or DTS: X. Also remember it depends on the apps itself capable or not.

Currently for Netflix & iTunes movies in Dolby Atmos at Dolby Digital Plus only support in Apple TV 4K Box. Since it is Dolby Digital Plus which is lossy track, so lossless track of Dolby TrueHD or DTS HD MA or Multi-Channel PCM is possible better.

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post Jun 2 2019, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(MorningBoyz @ Jun 2 2019, 12:55 PM)
Ok. Understand. Need to try later on during setup only know. Because my concern was on ARC delay. Went to shop tested few time and noticed the sound delay. As I hardly use my PS4 for watching Netflix or movie, it is just for gaming so thinking connect it direct via optical to LG SK9Y instead of PS4 > TV > LG SK9Y.
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Oh. You can try that in this case. Others port for others purpose then.

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post Jun 8 2019, 02:57 AM

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QUOTE(MorningBoyz @ Jun 7 2019, 03:54 PM)
Any other TV box beside Apple 4K TV that has Dobly Atmos?

btw Dobly is not same as Dobly Atmos rite? As i saw in apple 4k tv spec sheet, it wrote dobly dogital 5.1 / 7.1
Also saw other TV box spec sheet mentioning dobly instead of dobly atmos.
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So far I know for TV box only Apple TV 4K support Netflix in Dolby Atmos if the title support it.

Apple TV 4K origin support up to Dolby Atmos in Dolby Digital Plus up to 7.1 channel but not Dolby Atmos in Dolby TrueHD. For third party apps it is supporting auto decoded up to 7.1 channel Dolby TrueHD and also up to 7.1 channel of DTS-HD MA to up to 7.1 multi channel PCM. The sound will output as Multi channel PCM which will be identical with original track without any changes. The limitation is currently it can't decode the metadata from Dolby Atmos in Dolby TrueHD and also metadata from DTS:X in DTS-HD MA. This probably need more license and unless Apple support it else it is not possible third party apps support it and I doubt Apple will support for the moment since Apple own iTunes movies and also Netflix is only up to Dolby Atmos in 7.1 channel Dolby Digital Plus.

Dolby is a company. Dolby Atmos is one of the sound technology release by Dolby. They is plenty format had been release since year 1965.

Dolby is start as a company introduce noise reduction. The first consumer product is Dolby-NR introduce in cassette. If you have play cassette album before, you probably had seen and use before Dolby-NR device to reduce the noise generate by the cassette. I still remember it is such an awesome experience that time when first time I own and heard the cassette with Dolby-NR support Walkman - Panasonic Portable Cassette Player RQ-S33.

I suggest you study more by Google or at least look below few article for more understand and familiar with it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolby_Laboratories

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolby_Digital

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolby_Digital_Plus

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolby_TrueHD

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolby_Atmos

Lastly for your information, it is call Dolby not Dobly.

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post Jun 8 2019, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(MorningBoyz @ Jun 8 2019, 08:34 AM)
Ok so many to read. The. This Mi Box S spec sheet show support Dolby and DTS, so how is this? This is what I am confused. Apple TV 4K quite straightforward as it is written in spec sheet.
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No one will said Dolby only. Please read carefully the specification. They clearly mentioned DTS 2.0+ Digital Out, Dolby Digital Plus.

https://www.mi.com/my/mibox/

For Netflix support in Dolby Atmos, Netflix site had listing, only Apple TV 4K box support for TV box.

https://help.netflix.com/en/node/64066

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post Jun 11 2019, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(cyrobytes @ Jun 10 2019, 03:48 PM)
Nakamichi have the 9.2ch soundbar, claimed number 1 soundbar in USA.

Nakamichi Shockwafe

Can't find any shop selling here though.
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Wow! This look freaking awesome! I hope some day Nakamichi is coming to Malaysia. It always have wonderful design and price reasonable than any on the market.

Take for example this unit after conversion only RM 5.7k but you get 2 subwoofer, 4 rear speaker and 1 soundbar with every format in market support.

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post Jun 11 2019, 08:07 AM

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QUOTE(jhleo1 @ Jun 11 2019, 06:14 AM)
You can't directly convert. If local sell, there may be custom duty n SST tax add on PLUS certain amount of mark up. End up may be RM7k.
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Normal won't be that much also. Many items sell locally even cheaper than overseas.
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post Jun 11 2019, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(jhleo1 @ Jun 11 2019, 09:01 AM)
Yes if they have direct office here ie Yamaha is cheapest as compare to other countries.
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Yup agree. Without direct office also possible no warranty.
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post Jun 13 2019, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jun 12 2019, 10:04 AM)
maybe few years down the road, only u guys find out, this nakamichi has always been assembled at your back yard only, kekekekekek
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QUOTE(cyrobytes @ Jun 12 2019, 07:51 PM)
Lol, from what i know, most of the Sony audio product are assembled at Penang plant.
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Assembly at where important? Important is how the quality control.
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post Jun 13 2019, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jun 13 2019, 10:49 AM)
nono
I mean the irony of it not having it here and being priced higher hahahahaha

there are actually so many products that are made in Malaysia, seriously I kid you not

I remember those days even the Mighty Mouse is made in Malaysia
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I know. I never care make at where one. Haha!
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post Jul 21 2019, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(lonetitans @ Jul 21 2019, 09:04 PM)
Thinking of picking up the LG sk9y. Does it pass through Solby Vision as well? Andrewtst
Can’t find it on the official specs, though found on a Dolby website document that says SK9 can pass through Dolby Vision.
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I can't answer you as I don't own Dolby Vision TV, it is pass thru as HDR to me.

But this is LG, LG always support Dolby Vision, I don't think it got issue on that, some more official document already mentioned support, nothing to worried about it.
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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Aug 2 2020, 01:30 PM)
Which shop sold it at that price?
you will still get DD+ instead of TrueHD if your source is from the TV ARC, but if your source connection are directly to your soundbar instead of TV then it doesn't matter whether it is eARC or ARC.
Hahah just got the Q90R recently only la, and not much differences with the Q950T aside from the Q-Symphony only if you use the latest Samsung TV which I don't.
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Wonder this Q-Symphony did better or worst as they use specific Samsung TV speakers and join with the soundbar where TV speakers act as additional surround speaker.
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post May 15 2022, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(tmc @ May 15 2022, 08:54 AM)
How do people deal with the issue that the sound volume for YouTube video is much louder than those from Netflix ? Manual adjust it each time when changing app ?
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Manual adjust each time is the only solution. Actually all sound is kind of equal on louder except Netflix, Netflix is much softer and it is like that always.

Nothing can do about this unless Netflix decide to tune it louder same as others.

This is nothing to do with SoundBar, this is Netflix issue.

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