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post May 4 2019, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(skyforcerld @ May 4 2019, 09:09 AM)
I think this one one mahal right?

Honestly, the best soundbar i have heard is the Yamaha YSP series 5600 or something, the mid range 2700 also very good. The sound beam projection is amazing, the surround effect better than my 5.1 setup. But you must have proper room with reflective  walls.

What Dolby Atmos DTS:X soundbar also no fight.
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Rm2.2k...no regrets..

ysp series also quite good but honestly i think the jbl's subwoofer is the best out there in that price range.
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post May 4 2019, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ May 4 2019, 09:34 AM)
Rm2.2k...no regrets..

ysp series also quite good but honestly i think the jbl's subwoofer is the best out there in that price range.
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JBL which model?
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QUOTE(MorningBoyz @ May 4 2019, 12:26 PM)
JBL which model?
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Jbl 3.1
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post May 4 2019, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(skyforcerld @ May 4 2019, 09:09 AM)
I think this one one mahal right?

Honestly, the best soundbar i have heard is the Yamaha YSP series 5600 or something, the mid range 2700 also very good. The sound beam projection is amazing, the surround effect better than my 5.1 setup. But you must have proper room with reflective  walls.

What Dolby Atmos DTS:X soundbar also no fight.
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Yamaha sound is good as usual, but the design, hmm they should change the designer. Haha!
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post May 4 2019, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ May 4 2019, 12:34 PM)
Jbl 3.1
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Find one day go try out if can find. Haha! Very hard to find real JBL in JB. Haha!

Maybe the switch have. Haha.
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ May 4 2019, 01:06 PM)
Yamaha sound is good as usual, but the design, hmm they should change the designer. Haha!
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The YSP series is quite old, also another reason is there is a hell lots of speakers inside( 44 beam drivers inisde YSP-5600). Hence the bulky design.

The latest low end sound bars like my YAS-108 is actually very good looking. biggrin.gif
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post May 4 2019, 01:59 PM

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I tot YSP series quite expensive?
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QUOTE(skyforcerld @ May 4 2019, 01:43 PM)
The YSP series is quite old, also another reason is there is a hell lots of speakers inside( 44 beam drivers inisde YSP-5600). Hence the bulky design.

The latest low end sound bars like my YAS-108 is actually very good looking. biggrin.gif
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I had check Yamaha 207, I find it too many light. Haha!
As for YSP it is freaking ugly. Haha!

I didn't check 108. But from internet photo. It look nicer.
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QUOTE(MorningBoyz @ May 4 2019, 01:59 PM)
I tot YSP series quite expensive?
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Expensive or old never related. Lol

Old not means it must be cheap.

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ May 4 2019, 01:08 PM)
Find one day go try out if can find. Haha! Very hard to find real JBL in JB. Haha!

Maybe the switch have. Haha.
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Harney norman ada bro
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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ May 4 2019, 03:40 PM)
Harney norman ada bro
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Oh ok. Thanks. I didn't notice it, will check it out. smile.gif
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post May 4 2019, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(skyforcerld @ May 2 2019, 09:00 AM)
Another thing to take note is to make sure your PC capable of 4K and HDR, if you want to playback 4K with HDR.
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not sure..i downloaded sample here.. http://jell.yfish.us
all those 10-bit, hevc can play smoothly on my pc (i'm using mpc player, when using gom/vlc video is lagging) but output on full hd monitor...does it mean my pc can handle 4k hdr?


if my pc cant handle then atmos is beyond my reach...have to upgrade pc, then 4k tv, soundbar... doh.gif rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(under1818 @ May 4 2019, 08:47 PM)
not sure..i downloaded sample here.. http://jell.yfish.us
all those 10-bit, hevc can play smoothly on my pc (i'm using mpc player, when using gom/vlc video is lagging) but output on full hd monitor...does it mean my pc can handle 4k hdr?
if my pc cant handle then atmos is beyond my reach...have to upgrade pc, then 4k tv, soundbar...  doh.gif  rclxub.gif
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PC just need to passthrough, i think even low end GPU can passthrough Atmos.

For HDR another matter, have to ensure it is capable of it. I think GPU like Nvidia 1050 will satisy these criterias, but you should check their specs.
And yes, you need 4K TV wirh HDR. Your current FullHD monitor won't have HDR.
And yes, you need to buy a Soundbar which support atmos.
And yes, you need to pay a lot of money.

And in the end, i think its not worth the money or trouble.....too few Atmos and HDR source currently.

IMO, no point purposely buying for Atmos or HDR right now. If you are buying a new TV or soundbar or HT, then its maybe good idea to look out that they support these features for future proofing..(especially TV...make sure it has HDR)....but building an entire ecosystem for HDR and Atmos purpose is....well, not worth it to me.
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wow JBL bar 3.1 seem nice. it is same price range as LG SK9Y hmmm need to go test it to know

looking at the price range so my list

JBL Bar 3.1 vs LG SK9Y

or Yamaha YAS-207

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post May 4 2019, 11:39 PM

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Saw the JBL 3.1 at All IT Hypermarket. Quite a lot but price at original RM2699. I google just now cheapest online around RM2,099. Not same range at YAS 207 around RM1,399. JBL should be better? Dunno where can test. Harvey Norman not sell this.

QUOTE(MorningBoyz @ May 4 2019, 11:11 PM)
wow JBL bar 3.1 seem nice. it is same price range as LG SK9Y hmmm need to go test it to know

looking at the price range so my list

JBL Bar 3.1 vs LG SK9Y

or Yamaha YAS-207
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QUOTE(jhleo1 @ May 4 2019, 11:39 PM)
Saw the JBL 3.1 at All IT Hypermarket. Quite a lot but price at original RM2699. I google just now cheapest online around RM2,099. Not same range at YAS 207 around RM1,399. JBL should be better? Dunno where can test. Harvey Norman not sell this.
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yup i googled and youtubed too this JBL bar 3.1 look promising too. so need to test it out 1st, not sure where can test. Didnt saw any JBL that day at harver norman
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QUOTE(under1818 @ May 4 2019, 08:47 PM)
not sure..i downloaded sample here.. http://jell.yfish.us
all those 10-bit, hevc can play smoothly on my pc (i'm using mpc player, when using gom/vlc video is lagging) but output on full hd monitor...does it mean my pc can handle 4k hdr?
if my pc cant handle then atmos is beyond my reach...have to upgrade pc, then 4k tv, soundbar...  doh.gif  rclxub.gif
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From PC to TV I not very sure as I can't test, my current laptop display not support HDR as I connect to my TV before and confirm it can't. You can play back HDR but that is due to the player you use help transcode to SDR. When you play without transcode but in real HDR then you will see huge differences. Transcode from HDR to SDR is sometimes worst than actual SDR because it is more darker than usual. Sometimes you seen people comment HDR no good, and when you read on you will notice those said no good is due to they don't have proper display to play it.

As for your monitor, it is 100% not support as no HDR monitor in Full HD. Only available in 4K monitor. You can know this also by checking your display information at Windows 10 and also only Windows 10 support HDR.

But if you buy TV make sure it is 4K HDR capable as it is standard now.

Plenty movies is already move to HDR. Within a year I already have 220+ titles in 4K HDR. It growing rapidly since last year and a lot movies already move over to it. Also more and more old title have 4K HDR treatment now and mostly far better than 1080p Blu-ray.

For legit, plenty 4K HDR Blu-ray now but need buy from Amazon as local speedy shop have too little title.

For legit streaming, currently main support is Netflix and iTunes movies. You need to have at least 30mbps line to ensure always smooth and no degradation of image quality during stream.

For none legit, it is not ok to share and please Google yourself.

So make sure your soundbar can pass thruth 4K HDR because for the moment, device must connect to soundbar HDMI-IN to enjoy lossless sound track. Dolby Atmos is just a layer on it and not that important but lossless track like Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD MA, multi channel LPCM make differences when compare with lossy track like Dolby Digital, DTS 5.1 and etc.

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For JBL Bar 3.1, found out from AVS forum that the unit "looks like it only uses the "center" channel when a true dolby digital signal goes through. Otherwise it's 2.1". Its true?

Anyway this unit got lots good reviews. Really need to find a place which can test out the sound.

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/195-soundbar...-1-a.html?amp=1

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QUOTE(jhleo1 @ May 5 2019, 09:35 AM)
For JBL Bar 3.1, found out from AVS forum that the unit "looks like it only uses the "center" channel when a true dolby digital signal goes through. Otherwise it's 2.1". Its true?

Anyway this unit got lots good reviews. Really need to find a place which can test out the sound.

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/195-soundbar...-1-a.html?amp=1
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Most likely it is so. Since if our audio source not dobly then it also won't utilize it.

That why I am still considering a 2.1 will be better for my casual use.
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QUOTE(jhleo1 @ May 5 2019, 09:35 AM)
For JBL Bar 3.1, found out from AVS forum that the unit "looks like it only uses the "center" channel when a true dolby digital signal goes through. Otherwise it's 2.1". Its true?

Anyway this unit got lots good reviews. Really need to find a place which can test out the sound.

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/195-soundbar...-1-a.html?amp=1
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For LG, you can set either follow the actual sound set where mostly firing up speaker don't have sound as that speaker only apply to Dolby Atmos or let every speaker always have sound. This some how simulate the Atmos setup even though no Atmos detect.

Another thing probably due to 3.1 never is standard as sound often configured as 2.1, 5.1 and 7.1

This post has been edited by Andrewtst: May 5 2019, 12:04 PM

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