Eh there won't be any problem with 4.3 if u buy the i9505 version. Only the i9500 version has problems . And if u think Samsung did a bad job with S4, LOL then look at HTC One thread n xda about the more serious problems that cannot be solved by a factory reset.
Hardware issues like purple camera, gaps between the speakers and the body + various scratches. These are much worse problems in my opinion, and what's worse is sending the phone to the service center won't solve these problems. Sure I'll admit Samsung screwed up 4.3 for i9500, but in my opinion HTC screwed One customers even worse.

30th of February.

Are you kidding me or something ? My i9500 runs perfectly with JB4.3

[got 2 model , miss and which model u mention, Mine LTE less issue already ]
Actually is depending on user geh...
even i updated to EMJ5 firmware, which is 4.3 JB that solved tons of problems already...

This post has been edited by mudkipryan94: Nov 17 2013, 05:21 PM

That's because you factory resetted your phone after updating. Some people (like me) just don't have the time to backup everything using helium or root and do titanium backup, so factory resetting my phone isn't a viable option for me.
I know to you, flashing and backup/restore is very convenient (judging from your previous posts ). But not everyone has the luxury to do those. I hope you understand lol I know factory resetting will make hardware acceleration work again. I'll do helium once my exams are over.

Then again if from an average Joe's point of view, almost every android newbuyer will expect zero problems updating from 4.2.2 to 4.3, and I think we can agree that 80-90% of i9500 owners are not into rooting or factory resetting, right? They expect the phone to 'just work', something the flagship Galaxy S Generation has achieved next to the iPhone.

Just want to clarify that yes I know it can be solved

guys im trying the group play on my s4 with my friend but when we share music, the only thing appear is the playlist . .it isnt auto connect to the song that were playing. .really need help coz wanna try this feature

I cant blame them, but its compulsory to them. And you know not only i9500 facing this issue right ?

Lol I don't think anything should be compulsory of Samsung did 4.3 update right. And yes I know. Like I said I'll do helium once my exams are over. The fact is general people like ginny88 get turned off buying S4 just cause of all these problems which weren't supposed to be there in the first place

And you know that this factory reset 'rule' does not apply to Samsung devices right ? Almost every Android device have to factory reset after ;
1. First boot-up (right after you bought your device.
2. After major updates ; ICS > JB
3. If your phone suddenly got haywire, keeps awake

Even my iPod touch have to be factory reset once its updated to a newer iOS version.

Is this true? Means everyone has to have their data all wiped everytime they do an update? I don't think you understand lol it doesn't have to be this way usually. I've been using android since 4 years ago and I never knew it was 'compulsory' to factory reset every time.

It is recommended to do factory reset after new update , example from 4.2.2 to 4.3 due to different build. If same build like 4.2.2 to 4.2.2 , not necessary to do factory reset..

haywired ==!

I said major updates. If you think you dont have any problems then dont do factory reset.

Opps sorry bout that.

Lol I do have a major problem. Like I said I'll be doing helium soon. I didn't root my S4 yet so I can't use titanium.

Even Helium won't save you apps data. You need a rooted phone first then only you can do an app data backup.
Restoring to a new unrooted phone shouldn't be any problem.

Whats the point of backup if youre not even rooted ?

Factory reset never is a must. And no rules and no suppose doing that in brand new purchase phone.

I use Android since 2010, the least I do is factory reset.

Only something wrong happen just need, else no need.

This post has been edited by Andrewtst: Nov 17 2013, 09:03 PM

He don't want to lose his app data..most probably.
If for apps only..much easier. Just use Androzip and do the backup for all the apps apk. Then can restore again one by one. No need to redownload from Play Store. Save time and data quota.

This post has been edited by waveweaver: Nov 17 2013, 09:04 PM

I didnt really meant it is a must, unless you are facing certain scenarios.


Im deeply sorry if you guys misunderstood my statements.