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post May 18 2016, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(Andyzz @ May 11 2016, 11:05 AM)
ranting.gif  ranting.gif  ranting.gif  ranting.gif

I think most pekcheck for me is

Submit 1st design, rejected.

Submit x100000 design, rejected also.

At last, use back 1st design  rclxub.gif
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Luckily, it's not "can we combine from all and become X".
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post Jul 13 2016, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(karusan @ Jul 13 2016, 02:04 PM)
Hey Guys,

Is this the rite place to look for a freelance web designer? Looking for one badly.
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The correct board is: https://forum.lowyat.net/ServicesNoticeboard

However, I'm in need of moolah *hint hint*. Do message me the details. brows.gif
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post Jul 22 2016, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(adamw @ Jul 21 2016, 09:37 PM)
I pay peanuts but don't expect monkey, if you are keen! brows.gif
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Not everyone in need of moolah will expect peanuts ler. Might as well join Fiverr or go look for data entry work. LOL!
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post Aug 23 2016, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(r1nk @ Aug 23 2016, 01:58 PM)
What is the average way to calculate a total website cost for a client?

1) Is it based on number of page and extra functions like register user.etc ? If yes normally 1 page cost how much??

2) Is the domain and monthly hosting cost include in the total payment or u guys collect the hosting payment monthly?
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The 2 most common ways nowadays are:

A) Pages and functions
B) Man hours


A1. No market rate. It's up to the person to estimate their personal value and/or pricing strategy.

A2. This is a pricing strategy question as well - no fixed practice.

However, domain name and hosting companies normally collect 12-months upfront. Unless it's a premium service - VPS, Dedicated, Co-location, Cloud and others.
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post Oct 22 2016, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(yentrangkorea @ Oct 22 2016, 01:14 AM)
Etsuko,
Thanks! It sure helps me about the 'Real' world i'll be facing in the future.
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Glad to hear this still helps the many enthusiasts thinking of jumping into the industry here. smile.gif
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post Oct 27 2016, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(vios2002 @ Oct 26 2016, 10:22 AM)
average what is the web hosting cost now been offer?

How to increase rating of search engine in local malaysia region and S.E.A region during search.
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Average hosting cost can be anywhere between RM50/year to RM360/year for shared Linux hosting.

There isn't a guaranteed way to improve your rating and like what I'd educate my clients today, an SEO exercise is required when they wish to optimize their website. An exercise encompasses everything from analysis, consultation, strategy and action.
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post Nov 26 2016, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(Serendipity123 @ Nov 25 2016, 07:33 PM)
Hi all,

I wonder if this is the right place to ask. I don't do freelance work but a friend has asked me to help him set up his website for him. Nothing too fancy, just a website to provide information about his company. I'd like to help him but have no idea how much to charge or what the market rate is. Can someone shed some light?

Many thanks.
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Simple questions..

1. Are you giving a custom design or template?

2. How valuable is your time (hourly rate) to you?

3. How many hours would you estimate it'll take you to complete the website?

This should give you an indication of how much you are worth and could charge. Don't be swayed by the "friend price" because business is still business. If they'd like to engage a cheaper alternative, let them. After all, you've already decided how valuable is your time to you.

Hope this gives a glimmer of light to you. smile.gif
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post Jan 11 2017, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(soR @ Jan 10 2017, 07:25 PM)
Hey i know this maybe off topic, i got a friend asked for help designing him 3 different stickers for his vape bottle(logo designed,other stuffs such as its flavour design) and its started to get serious and he wants to pay me, he ask me what are the prices, and i dont know how to price my designs at. anyone could help me?
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Firstly, congratulations on doing work which your friend wants to pay you thumbup.gif

Secondly, do not be afraid to charge him like any other client. Friend is friend, business is business.

Thirdly, there isn't a standard rate. Some fellows charge RM500 (or less), and some charge RM1000++. How you should price your services is the value of your time at the level of experience you're at?

For example; if you're a designer with less than a year experience. Starting with RM10 or 15 per hour is alright. Then when you take into consideration the time utilized to conceptualize, design and etc, you'll get your estimate rate. But don't stop there, think about whether it really pays your bills - utility, petrol and others. If it doesn't, add on a little more before telling him/her what's your price.

Hope this helps.
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post Mar 16 2017, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(Refuzed @ Mar 16 2017, 06:47 PM)
Can anyone help to integrate iPay88 as a Donation form into a Wordpress page / separate PHP page?

Please let me know. Thanks!
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You can use WooCommerce and a donation plugin. iPay88 works with WooCommerce. smile.gif
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post Mar 25 2017, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(ahumanisthere @ Mar 25 2017, 02:19 AM)
Anyone here experiencing being charged around 5figures for buy or build a website?
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If you meant, "being charged XX,XXX to build a website" then yes. I've quoted clients in those amount of figures before, and it was because their project requirements were such.

By the way, buying a website for XX,XXX and building a website for the same amount are 2 different scenarios.

Unless you elaborate further and become specific of what you're really asking, it's difficult for us to jump in and let you know whether it's been priced fairly or not.
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QUOTE(Mico Sing @ Apr 5 2017, 04:28 PM)
Hello,I'm looking for freelancer like you. Can you please drop me a text at 0169693969 please ?
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Would you mind writing to me in a PM and I'll see how can I help you..
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post Aug 2 2017, 07:38 PM

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Interesting. You don't hear many who use the term and may know what content marketing is really. But anyway.. the moment you decided to quit your full-time job to working on your own is yourself telling yourself you will be full-time on your own - no more comfort of having a paycheck at the end of the month.

Passion doesn't pay the bills. Passion is the energy which keeps you interested in what you're doing. When you lose passion, you lose interest and energy in what you're doing.

What would put food on your table are projects. And projects mean business. Business means you either get the job done, or you don't and not do the business anymore.

This is why others dua-kerja. You keep at your work, but work on your side projects because it's out of passion. If you happen to make it sustainable, then you consider to be a business.
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QUOTE(RedShirt @ Aug 2 2017, 07:48 PM)
Hi, anyone good with Wordpress and Divi theme?
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What are you looking to accomplish? Divi should be straight forward having a page builder in there.
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QUOTE(canary2612 @ Aug 3 2017, 11:54 AM)
Thanks you so much because take time to give me your feedback. Im trying come back with my path by taking step by step. I'm also trying find a place for only freelancer to  sharing not only for looking for job.
Are you a freelancer too?
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I've switched from being a full-time freelancer into a business.

If you're a full-time freelancer, you're holding a job. Exception is that your working hours aren't fixed - could be more, could be less.

From my experience, being a freelancer does not mean you do not have job.
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QUOTE(ray9292 @ Aug 3 2017, 05:23 PM)
Hi sifu, may I know where is the suitable place/platform for new comer to start freelance job? I tried upwork and freelancer but no luck, always get by those with higher rating.
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Your best place is your family and friends. Spread the word.
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QUOTE(ray9292 @ Aug 3 2017, 05:33 PM)
ya i did told them. But seems not much different.
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If you're looking for quick results, then either (A) you give your services for free (B) you are damn famous © you spend money getting others to know you - advertising / networking events
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QUOTE(alwayshungryleh @ Oct 11 2017, 03:22 PM)
Hi sifus (etsuko, goldfries and many others).

This thread has been a goldmine.
I am just starting out in the web design industry.
I wanted to do a portfolio, but sadly I do not have previous work to show, thus I only came up with this.
http://boonwebdesign.com/
Any advice for someone to do freelancing without previous work to show?

Should I just start doing websites for free?
Also, looking from the view of prospective client/employer, anyway for me to improve the website?

Sincerely hungry.
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With the market having too many designers and developers today..

1. What makes you different than the rest ?

2. What's your core expertise, or focus ? UX ? UI ? Frontend ? Backend ? System design?

3. Once you've found your answer to #1 and #2, start creating side projects of your own to demonstrate how are you different (1) and why you're more specialized (2).


The website you've got now communicates that you're looking for a job, not clients. To make it less like you're looking for a job, remove sections like employment and education.

Never do websites for free just because you're starting up. It leaves a bad impression to the industry. Instead, charge a minimum rate which you'd think is worth your time and expertise. Personally, aything below RM500 to me is ridiculous.

I hope this helps. smile.gif
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QUOTE(JustcallmeLarry @ Oct 23 2017, 02:10 AM)
Hi just would like to ask how much would it cost to make and run a forum like lowyat.net?
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Setting up the basic forum isn't difficult. But the costly part (if you take LYN as an example) is:

1. Creating a community
2. Modifying forum source code to include functions / features, which may not exist from the basic setup
3. Hiring a team to moderate the forums
4. And when you do get to the size of LYN, sales / marketing people to find / manage advertisers

I hope this gives you a better realistic expectation to possibly re-frame your question. smile.gif
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QUOTE(uevanrajoo @ Nov 6 2017, 01:59 PM)
Greetings, I'm a freelance programmer who focus on Web, Mobile & App Development. I'm starting my own start-up, which focus on development work, from setting up website for a wide range of businesses or apps development using C/C++, .NET Framework (C#/VB), Java or database development using MS SQL or MySQL.

I’m a fresh entry in the industry, I don’t have much to show in my portfolio. I'm also looking for long term business partners who could provide me with projects.

Contact method/details: PM me for contact

Anyone interested can PM me. Thank you.
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Then why not start on side projects?
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More like we've been relying on FPX ever since it was available.

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