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TSDreadlock13
post Nov 3 2013, 12:32 AM, updated 13y ago

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Is anyone here play a Warrior ?

I know it's a bit late. But I just don't have the time to play the game every day.
So I always read a reviews before going into dungon or doing boss fight.

and what I found is that people prefer Paladin over warrior when it comes to end game content.
And mainly tanking.

I have to admit that sometime the party members complain that I drain my hp pool to fast. Because of the way I tank.
And they can't use sleep and all

But sometimes with a AOE dps they just love me.
Coz we go through the dungon so fast.

And regarding the bonus state that I should spend on
Most review said speend more on VIT
other said STR

As I play on I think STR play a better role then VIT for warrior.

I never reach 50 yet.
So I'm a bit worried if str warrior tank that badly.
With end games content where warrior are less attractive

Any high level warrior here to give your opinion on this matter.
Any advice on


Armor
States
Meteria
Combo
Strategy

Will be a great help.
Thanks
affirmative90
post Nov 3 2013, 12:55 AM

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Hi DL13,

It is understandable that currently warriors are not much preferable over paladins for tanking. Worry not, SE realised this problem and promised to buff warrior in upcoming patch 2.1. So, just level it till 50, and start doing end game content.

Good luck.
TSDreadlock13
post Nov 3 2013, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(affirmative90 @ Nov 3 2013, 12:55 AM)
Hi DL13,

It is understandable that currently warriors are not much preferable over paladins for tanking. Worry not, SE realised this problem and promised to buff warrior in upcoming patch 2.1. So, just level it till 50, and start doing end game content.

Good luck.
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Really?
I personally think if warrior to go on PVP mode.
It will outclass other meatballs

If it's beef up more. Then people start to whine again.

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post Nov 3 2013, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(Dreadlock13 @ Nov 3 2013, 01:06 AM)
Really?
I personally think if warrior to go on PVP mode.
It will outclass other meatballs

If it's beef up more.  Then people start to whine again.
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SE mentioned sth like, paladins are more preferable over warriors for coils, and they will balance it.

TSDreadlock13
post Nov 3 2013, 01:21 AM

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QUOTE(affirmative90 @ Nov 3 2013, 01:07 AM)
SE mentioned sth like, paladins are more preferable over warriors for coils, and they will balance it.
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Still a big plus for warrior smile.gif
By then I just take it slow
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post Nov 3 2013, 03:45 AM

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currently, war are just HP tank. In end game, they get hit pretty hard. However, I met geared up war as in using HQ crafted ilvl70 equips with 5 melded slot, they are good, although still HP tank.

PLD currently are preferred because they have damage mitigation skills unlike war. For me, I do feel that both take the same amount of damage from the same boss, but pld will take lesser sometime if damage mitigation skills are activated.

SE will "buff" war in the december 2.1 patch. I would not say "buff" but probably make some changes to war's skills. They decided this due to having seen pld in coils won't die when boss have 3 stacks of buffs (SE said they actually designed the boss to KO any one if the stacks reach 3, but pld can survive even till 5 stacks sometime lol)

If you like the job, just keep going at it. smile.gif
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post Nov 3 2013, 07:08 AM

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currently warrior is crap compared to paladin for end game. and ill tell u why.

even tho paladins have lower hp, they have a ton of defensive buffs which u can rotate depending on the situation, warriors however only have foresight and of course inner beast. During emergencies, u could use infuriate/inner beast to get back around 3-4k hp back. and thrill of battle for another 1.2k of hp. but after that ur recovery is down for at least another minute or 2, leaving u totally dependant on ur healer to keep u alive. this is why healers hate healing warriors. cuz they can't slack off lol.

which means, u dont have anything to keep u alive during those oh sh*t moments like paladins do. So basically if ur healer runs out mp, messes up, or one of them dies. ur pretty much dead when the paladin can survive for much much longer.

now lets look at utility skills. warriors have what? stun? a really slow stun at that too which and on a 30second cooldown. compare that to the paladins stun which is on GCD, on top of that, he has silence too with a 30second cooldown.

so as of right now, there is no reason for someone to prefer a warrior over a paladin in a party for end game dungeons other for the sole reason of adding a bit more dps into the party.

as an ending note, i really hope they buff up the warrior to be on par with the paladin. cuz as of right now, warriors got the short end of the stick. i love the warrior playstyle, but yeah. its overshadowed by the paladin by a pretty huge margin.

This post has been edited by Axidrain: Nov 3 2013, 08:16 AM
mattiusa
post Nov 4 2013, 11:47 AM

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hi bro,

playing as a warrior is quite hard as most parties prefer to have a paladin as their main tank.

Using the combos would help you greatly. ie, heavy swing, main, storms path . heavy swing, maim, storms eye.


get cross class abilities from paladin to help you manage agro, i.e provoke and flash.


All the best!
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post Nov 4 2013, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(mattiusa @ Nov 4 2013, 11:47 AM)
hi bro,

playing as a warrior is quite hard as most parties prefer to have a paladin as their main tank.

Using the combos would help you greatly. ie, heavy swing, main, storms path . heavy swing, maim, storms eye.
get cross class abilities from paladin to help you manage agro, i.e provoke and flash.
All the best!
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Thanks bro. Im still learning.
My war is lvl 39 now.

I got flash. But during dungo run. I rarely use it and sometimes never use it at all.

Maybe it will be useful at high lvl
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post Nov 4 2013, 03:14 PM

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its a definitely must use skill.
you will be flashing your brains out during lvl50 dungeon, especially speed runs.

imo, warrior is really slow.
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post Nov 4 2013, 03:52 PM

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My main used to be a warrior until I started on coil. Managed to get pass turn 1 using it but it was really tough for the healers to keep me up beyond turn 1 so I rolled a PLD. Got to admit that it is so much easier playing a PLD with so many defensive CDs to play with unlike a WAR. Not to forget that PLD has the OSHIT invul cd too.

Tanking as a pld up to turn 5 now and leaving my warrior in the closet until they buff it in 2.1.
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post Nov 4 2013, 05:45 PM

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Yea please flash xD
I cant start heal until the tank pulled all the mobs in red.

This post has been edited by ShinAsuka: Nov 4 2013, 05:46 PM
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post Nov 4 2013, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(flix @ Nov 4 2013, 03:52 PM)
My main used to be a warrior until I started on coil. Managed to get pass turn 1 using it but it was really tough for the healers to keep me up beyond turn 1 so I rolled a PLD. Got to admit that it is so much easier playing a PLD with so many defensive CDs to play with unlike a WAR. Not to forget that PLD has the OSHIT invul cd too.

Tanking as a pld up to turn 5 now and leaving my warrior in the closet until they buff it in 2.1.
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war is my main job,

i personally think that WAR is challenging to play,
yes it make you frustrated sometimes but switching combo, timing and alert to surrounding make this "not so favorite tanker" is fun to play,

i read some review and they said,

"Warrior owe nothing to no body"

they are high damage and moderate tanker, not a heavy duty tanker like PLD

but i dont plan on spending all my state to VIT so i can tank better,

Warrior is Just Warrior there is no way you can be someone you are not,


so yeah i can live with that, flex.gif
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post Nov 5 2013, 08:27 AM

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overpower+maim+bloodbath combo is good against small fry in group. never try on any coil or hard mode primal? yet though

I personally prefer WAR over GLD, for now. PLD will unlock soon
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post Nov 5 2013, 02:57 PM

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Dunno if it just me or what but when I'm healing both kind of tanks it seems WAR is way better than PLD when slapped with Regen. Mebbe due too their higher HP. So I guess both tank got its pro and con. PLD is better with dmg mitigation but with WAR higher HP, stoneskin and regen works better on them compared to PLD. It all comes to how one play the class, if they good at it, it'll be super. If not, well, go figure tongue.gif
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post Nov 6 2013, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(cressalve @ Nov 5 2013, 02:57 PM)
Dunno if it just me or what but when I'm healing both kind of tanks it seems WAR is way better than PLD when slapped with Regen. Mebbe due too their higher HP. So I guess both tank got its pro and con. PLD is better with dmg mitigation but with WAR higher HP, stoneskin and regen works better on them compared to PLD. It all comes to how one play the class, if they good at it, it'll be super. If not, well, go figure tongue.gif
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i used to read that

Warrior goes better with white mage.

PLD better scholars.


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post Nov 6 2013, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(mugenz @ Nov 6 2013, 09:12 AM)
i used to read that

Warrior goes better with white mage.

PLD better scholars.
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hmm really? when i go do wp run with my friends / 1 guy has both paladin and warrior, he prefers me to heal with scholar on warrior and white mage on paladin.
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As a 50 WAR myself, id prefer SCH constant small heal compared to WHM big heals.

And yes there are alot of things broken with WARas the mitigation advantage of PLD outweigh WAR's huge HP pool. well, its like tanking as Death Knight all over again. SQE need to fix parry and avoidance chance to at least scale with VIT instead of DEX.

And fix wrath/infuriate to scale with avoidance instead of critical chance. And that STUNS too. Well i have tons of fun as WAR despite the lowcomes but yeah, being gimped due to game design is unacceptable.

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post Nov 7 2013, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(adam20 @ Nov 6 2013, 04:44 PM)
hmm really? when i go do wp run with my friends / 1 guy has both paladin and warrior, he prefers me to heal with scholar on warrior and white mage on paladin.
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yea, but that applies during Lvl40 dungeon runs la.

But now i do AK/WP really doesn't matter. once i met a scholar in AK he was DPS`ing all the while.

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QUOTE(mugenz @ Nov 7 2013, 09:26 AM)
yea, but that applies during Lvl40 dungeon runs la.

But now i do AK/WP really doesn't matter. once i met a scholar in AK he was DPS`ing all the while.
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im talking bout ak/wp...not lvl 40 runs lol

reason why scholar for warrior cos of their lack of defensive cooldowns have to use lustrate and shield quite often on him better survivability.
White mage on paladins cos their defensive cooldowns just need top up with a regen or cure 2 and holy.

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