OMG...u guyz should create another thread for discussion....nothing related to the thread topic leh..

no point having 1st class honours but when interview tergagap-gagap cannot speak

no point talk so much in interview but kosong in knowledge
ppl called that tin kosong.

I am conducting a research for my thesis as part of the requirement for my Bachelor of Economics (Human Resource Economics). The title of this thesis is “Unemployment Among Graduates”.

In my research, the respondents will include graduates who are not working yet, 3 months after their convocation.

Any of your friend not working yet, 3 months after their convocation? If yes, can u give me their email address or email their mail address to me (chinchiewlan85@gmail.com) Cos I need their help to be my respondent in filling up the questionnaire.

Currently, I faced a severe problem. I can’t get any respondent who are not working yet, 3 months after their convocation. Hopefully you can help me.

Your co-operation is much appreciated. Your response will be use for the preparation of thesis only and the information will be kept confidential. Thanks…

Not all 3rd class has no value. But MNC in Penang will only offer you production supervisor grade if you are 3rd class instead of 'engineer' title.
My current senior is just 2nd lower. His work full of mistake ..but yet he's promoted because he's working long enough there. So timing & opportunity also plays an important role in your career.

Grade sometimes matter, if you're competing against the first class holder (or better candidates).
Based on my experienced, there's once I apply for a vacancy offer by SHARP. According to Jobstreet, there are more than 70 candidates competing against each other for that job opening.
Fyi, my CGPA is 3.51 and didn't get even a chance for interview, how pity.

TS, for our type, we gotta start from somewhere. Work hard, create a good reputation in the field you are good in, then people will start looking for you.

This post has been edited by gs20: Dec 14 2008, 01:51 PM

just apply any job out there regardless of your class as long you got an interview, you stand a chance.

Well, I'm a graduate from MMU. Most of my friends r goin for interviews even b4 graduation n within 3 months, all of them r employed, not 2 menrtion dat there r some whom their parents r just 2 filthy rich dat they can afford 2 go fo vacation for a few months b4 applying for jobs, but still, they get a job.
For 3rd class students, it really depends on how u think, if u r being optimistic, u will think like dis : I dun have good results, I'll have to work extra hard in order to add value to myself. I can't demand for high pay, I can onli learn as much as i can. Den i believe u have da answer to ur questions. = ) good luck.

From the local university perspective, 1st class and 2nd upper are people who at least read the books and do some tutorials.

When it goes 3rd class, you have to admit to yourself that you are halfway in the lectures and halfway out playing or doing something else.

I know myself, I played lots of DotA and last minute revise. My ex housemate was everyday surfing and not doing the books. Its not so much of the matter of being intelligent but more of the matter of discipline- whether one can commit to do something for a period of time.

That's why HR uses it as the first filter before selecting potential candidates for competitive jobs.

This is just an info that I hope 3rd classers can make use of. No stings intended.

Find a job u wanted to learn. Gain experience for 1-2yrs, then you can start find/nego a better job prospect.
3rd class is better than no class. Attitude problem will make your job searching process harder, just tell during the interview that "im not academic type of person, but willing to learn/work hard or show passionate on the job u wish to apply.

Happy job hunting.

If you wish to do a survey you can try it at kopitiam. A lot of respondents there.

http://forum.lowyat.net/Kopitiam

How much salary a third class degree holder should be asking for?

Depends, some will offer you same as 2nd class up/lower.
If employer is study result oriented, then RM100-300 lower than 1st/2nd class.
Cant be too low, 3rd class graduate also need to survive rite ?

IMHO, dont ask for too low. You still derserve the pay if you work smart and work hard to contribute. GOOD Attitude is important !!
Dont lose confidence because of poor result.

This post has been edited by yehlai: Jan 26 2009, 12:06 PM

Is RM2000 above considered high?

Its acceptable.
Dont just look at salary, if can learn and train yourself up over there, even lower pay is acceptable.

This post has been edited by yehlai: Jan 26 2009, 12:20 PM

Yea, I'll have 2 agree with u in half of ur words. Yea, 3rd class ppl do attend half da classes n half da tutorials n play for da rest of da time.
However, dat does not mean 3rd class ppl r stupid or less inteligent u noe. There r a few of my 1st class student friends who pass with flying colours, but I dun think they r smart, they r just plain hard workers n have good memory.

To all 3rd class students, dun give up, da class only matters during ur 1st or 2nd job. After dat, its ur portfolio dat counts. Remember, ppl change, as long as u dun give up in learning, u will be better than da 1st class students anytime.

Exactly. U have to build your career from there. Use the training experience as an asset to overcome your 3rd class degree. Once u have a good experience and knowledge, your 3rd class degree won't mean anything anymore. Your gained experience will mean everything!

what if i got no past working experience and don't hold any posts in any clubs or societies....should i ask for a salary below RM2000 in my jobstreet resume for fear of being overlooked?

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This post has been edited by Ellewaikay: Oct 14 2012, 12:44 AM

this is jobstreet online one....so gotta put