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 Shall we have a diet/workout post?, To Help Each Other.

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post Sep 30 2009, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(Florian @ Sep 30 2009, 11:43 AM)
Is it the EAS one? I think that supp is really good, not the taste, but the results. I took a packet post workout for 2 weeks and I can really see the results and I gained 3kg from 82kg to 85kg in 2 weeks. But then at the end of the 2 weeks I got food poisoning and lost 4 kg back.
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Yeap, the EAS, i took whey powder from them last time, its good. Somehow the taste really.... i only take those when i run out of whey and i got to run to gnc and buy a pack... freaking expensive summore lol. How much u get urs?
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post Sep 30 2009, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(Florian @ Sep 30 2009, 03:44 PM)
Not sure, 300+ i think, my dad bought a box of that purple packets in GNC. We are suppose to take a packet of it for post workout but it' so damn much, had to put water to the brim of my shaker so that it's dilute enough to swallow. But then I've been taking one full packet PWO for 2 weeks and can really see the results. Maybe it's time for me to increase my protein intake. 1 packet contains 54g of protein i think.
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wow u r drinking the huge a$$ one, the one i tried is 28g lol. May be i can try out my scivation for 35g for post, now i only take 22g for post lol.
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post Dec 24 2009, 11:03 AM

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The Silent Killer: u need more protein on ur breakfast and too much carbs for ur supper smile.gif.
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post Dec 24 2009, 12:27 PM

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Depends on how heavy u r. Take 3pcs of half boil eggs will do the job. I take 6 biggrin.gif
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post Dec 24 2009, 02:17 PM

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just for breakfast, oth than that i take oth stuff, u can check out my journal, i have my diet plan there, but is not really up to date but good for reference.

Just make sure u have at least consume 1g of protein to ur bodyweight in lbs. e.g. if i m 180lbs then i need 180g of protein daily and divided those into 6 meals. Cheers buddy.
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x 20 shocking.gif thats alot dude, it depends on ur metabolism rate, u can tune it around, i would suggest u start from 14 and add another 500kcals for bulking. See if u gain any weight, and look in the mirror if u r gain fat or muscle.

Take ur carbs only in the morning, preworkout and post workout. As long as u have 50g of carbs a day, it is fine. Too much carbs may make u fat.

However, if u think that u dont have enough food to surplus ur calories needs, take FAT, yes fat but healthy fats from olive oil, sun flower seeds, pumpkin seeds, walnuts and etc.

You dont want to use Carbs to surplus ur calorie, u will end up bulking on fat instead, i have done tat and regret lol.
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post Dec 29 2009, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(funbags @ Dec 29 2009, 03:00 AM)
I've tried but I can't seem to find any
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Use this key word in the google search field

"Bodybuilding bulk"

Click search.
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post Dec 31 2009, 12:28 PM

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Hows ur progress with those diet? gain fat, muscle or idle?
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post Mar 6 2010, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(roycearden @ Mar 5 2010, 05:46 AM)
Hi folks, It would be nice if anyone of you could take a look at my daily meal plan below. I'm 75kgs 170cm (was 80kgs a month ago) and undergoing a weight loss program which includes cardio and basic compound workouts. I wish to reach optimum body weight as well as put on some muscle when the body fat is reduced. So here i have been following a diet plan constructed by myself after reading and researching numerous fitness forums and health sites. The idea is simple...keeping carbs low, increase protein intake and performing cardio diligently .
Breakfast 6.45am
Workout day  : 2 Bread biscuits + 1 cup milk +  1 slice low fat cheese + 1 capsule Multivitamin E
Normal  day   : 3 eggs + 2 toasts + 1 slice low fat cheese + 1 cup coffee + 1 capsule Multivitamin E

Class break 11 am
1 Scoop Whey protein mixed with milk and water + 2 slices of Rye bread
Lunch (Preworkout) 3pm
Workout day  : 3 eggs + 1 toast + 1 tbsp peanut butter
Normal  day   : Oats + milk ( or replaced with 1 tuna sandwich alternately )

Post workout (including cardio only days) 6.30pm
1 Scoop Whey protein mixed with milk and water  + 1 capsule Multivitamin E
Dinner
5 - 7 oz Chicken breast (or) 1 Fish (or) 1 Chicken steak patty + vegetables ( broccoli + long beans + cauliflower +carrots + mushrooms )
Pre-bed
1 glass of low fat milk (casein protein for long-hour digestion)
As you can see protein has a higher ratio to carbs here. The 3 eggs are taken at different timings depending on whether it's my workout day or normal day (with cardio).
Although i need a low carb diet, carbs are absolutely needed for energy esp pre-workout. I take the eggs before workout in order to provide a reservoir of protein but after workout i do
pump in some whey shake as well.

Can i consume white rice as a source of carb ? if so, how much ? and is rice for dinner recommended in my current situation ?
the last thing anybody wants is the breaking down of protein from the muscles due to lack of carbs for energy ( although this happens during critical enegry source depletion)
So i appreciate your recommendations and alterations as well as additions to this plan of mine. Thank you so much.
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It seems like u r really concious about the carbs intake. However buddy, i would say taking carbs in the right time, u shouldnt be worry too much about fat gain. U can consume ur oat + milk + watever that u need in the morning. It is important that u fuel up ur body in the morning. I have been on low carbs diet before, and i understand the kind of feeling that if u didnt consume enuf carbs for preworkout. Howver, now i have change my diet to carbs cycle, it seems like the glycogen store in the morning works pretty well for my evening training session (It works on my legs day too). And this is the Carbs Cycle that i m currently trying out, it has been a week, no fat gain nor lost at the moment, but i gona make my benchmark on the 12th day to see the result.

I would say brown rice or pasta may be a better choice.

Muscle break down when u didnt consume sufficient protein in a day or excessive cardio. I usually push my protein intake to 1.5 multiplier to ensure i have sufficient protein intake. However i have read it somewhere, it says, if u r on a low carbs diet, make sure ur calories source intake is equivalent or more than ur protein intake, else u might be teaching ur body to consume protein as energy source. I have not done any detail research on this stuff, so it just a piece of information. (fat calories = x9, protein calories = x4)

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post Mar 12 2010, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(roycearden @ Mar 11 2010, 11:40 PM)
Bro, thanks for looking into my meal plans. I must say the carb cycle routine you mentioned above has certainly cleared some confusions and now it all makes sense in terms of nutrition consumptions accordingly. I'm gonna give the carb cycle a shot, atleast it will sustain my energy and let me work out in correct form. thanks a lot. appreciate your time and effort.
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By the way, i think some of the important point the author miss out there. As i go through the forum it seems like he is saying , 1 out of the 3 low carbs day is actually a zero carbs day. And as well, the fat intake is always the same (as the moderate day). So thats mean on high carbs day ur calories intake wil be higher and low carbs or zero carbs will be lower (changes only on ur carbs not on protein nor fat). Hope that it helps. Cheers bro.

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post Apr 20 2010, 03:09 PM

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buddy, ur pre bed (supper) try not to consume carb. True mass has like 70g+ carbs if i m not wrong, try to take some eggs or meat for that smile.gif
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post Apr 20 2010, 04:09 PM

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Wouldn't that trigger unnecessary insulin spike?
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post Apr 21 2010, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 21 2010, 02:36 AM)
I know what you're getting at, but Bob Chick did say that a
lotta things work well on paper. In real life doesn't apply. Heck, I just got to
know Terry sometimes eats a double pure minced beef burger post workout, which is also his prebedtime.
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hehe, sometime we just need to get out of the library and experience it ourselve thou lol.

Tat minced beef burger sound so tempting.....
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post Apr 22 2010, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 21 2010, 06:34 PM)
Dunno la. I thought everything once read and applied would get me good gains but it was only when i started going instinctual, my gains exploded. Instead of drinking whey and milk prebedtime, it's chicken and brown rice or egg whites and 2-3 yolks. Weird right?
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Yeah, weird indeed. Our body seems to like surprise alot ><
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post Jun 17 2010, 01:35 PM

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60mins cardio and 15mins weight? it seems like the other way round sounds a little better
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post Jul 12 2010, 02:30 PM

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no it wont make u gain muscle by just consuming it alone, but if ur have taking in the right amount of food, then u will. Buddy, weight gainer just whey + carbs, if u r going for best bang for ur bucks, u got the absolute right choice. Post workout, mix ur whey with 2 table spoonb of glucolin (40+ g or simple carbs) for insulin spike and the rest of the day, just make sure u have enuf protein and carbs intake.
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post Aug 4 2010, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(remeron @ Jul 31 2010, 01:30 PM)
Just started training, trying to gain mass and lose my skinny belly fat: BF 16% - 17%
Am 178cm, 74kg

Morning:
1 scoop whey + 1 glass milk
Workout
Post work out 2 scoops whey

lunch
3 spoons of rice, meat and veges

tea
2 sccops whey + 2 eggs

dinner
meats and veges

prebed
1 scoop whey plus cheese or 2 eggs or 4 sausages

I am using a lot of whey I know, but I don't have the time to prepare proper proteinacous meals.

Any comments will be greatly appreciated.
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ur diet sounds like u r cutting bro.
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post Aug 12 2010, 03:00 PM

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Sounds fine bro. I would say carb cycle would be a better choice smile.gif, since ur carbs intake is fluctuating and same goes to ur daily calorie intake and this may trick ur body burn more fat.

It would be easier if u cut down ur fat lvl then u bulk buddy.
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Where do u guys find those cheap turkey slice?
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post Nov 14 2010, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(Maximize @ Nov 14 2010, 02:49 PM)
Workout 5 days per week and cardio for 30 mins every day (do my cardio after workout in workout day). Current target is to cut body fat ( especally belly) without losing muscle. Can you guys advice on my diet plan?

Breakfast
5 tbs oats with milk
Not enuf protein - another 5 - 10 eggs depends on ur weight?

Lunch
rice-chicken breast and vege

Pre workout
1 scoop whey protein
I would prefer solid meal, like chicken breast with some nuts or any healthy fat.

Post workout
2 scoop whey protein
This is the best time for u to ingest some simple carbs, like glucose to spike ur insulin to prevent catabolism and promote anabolism.

dinner
rice-chicken breast and vege
If u r not losing weight in two weeks time, this is the place you can replace ur rice with some other healthy fats, 10 - 20 g of fat is sufficient.

Pre bedtime
1 glass of milk
Not enuf protein -- take eggs, tuna, turkey (if u can afford) and etc.

Am i taking enough protein and carb to avoid loss of muscle due to the cardio training?
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Your carbs intake seems fine, except i think the protein intake might be a little too low. The amount of protein u need is 1g of protein / lbs of body weight divided by the number of meal in a day, tats the amount of protein u need each meal.


Added on November 14, 2010, 4:27 pm
QUOTE(HeiShou @ Nov 11 2010, 11:45 PM)
10.00am: Postworkout, 3 eggs, 2 slices of bread with tuna or w/o, 1 cup of milk.

12.00am: 2 slices of bread.

3.00pm: 2 slices of bread.

5:00pm: 2 slices of bread.

7:00pm: Rice, vege, fish. (vary, depends on what my nanny cook.)

9:00pm: 2 slices of bread.

1 hour before i sleep, 1 cup of milk.

Anything wrong with it..?
Preworkout need to eat?
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I was about to ask where is ur pre workout.... U need preworkout meal with carbs and protein. Else u might risking urself losing muscle bro.

ur 12 to 5pm obviously lack of protein. and 9 pm, take some protein instead of carbs and prebed same, protein smile.gif



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