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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL & FLX Thread V53, Slipping timing belt ®

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davidke20
post Nov 6 2013, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(ReaperOfSoul @ Nov 6 2013, 10:41 PM)
Aiseh, the person seems to have a very limited budget of 200 to settle only. Should I just accept it or report police  sweat.gif
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Report police within 24 hours. Send your car to reliable workshop, get them WRITTEN contract of how long are they going to repair your car. Can claim OD KFK(own damage knock for knock). Meaning that your workshop start to repair your car first, then claim 9 the 3rd party on your behalf. Later u can claim back loss of use during repair time. Usually RM30/day, maximum 7 days. Call your insurance agent to find out detail procedure. Don't ask me, ayam not your agent, I didn't collect your commission AT ALL whistling.gif This is as far as I can advise for FREE whistling.gif
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post Nov 6 2013, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(adriangan @ Nov 6 2013, 10:46 PM)
so is flx engine? if thats the case i 放心 liao... later everything also give old model...damn sianz...
SO meaning my OBD2 is useless liao?
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Engine doesn't matter, old technology everybody using whistling.gif The only differences are IAFM and IAFM+. Wanna confirm whether yours is IAFM+, check here

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If got this thing at the driver side behind engine, means its IAFM. So, your car not only have an FL meter cluster, FL gearbox, and also FL engine setup as IAFM, but without engine cover nia whistling.gif
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post Nov 6 2013, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(adriangan @ Nov 6 2013, 10:52 PM)
NCD rebate still valid if i renew with other insurance company? what proton insurance company they gave us ah?

Cant remember... unsure.gif
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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Nov 6 2013, 10:54 PM)
no, it will be linked.
dono, got so many ploton will use.
but after u get car, the insurance company will send u d agreement
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No matter what insurance company, ayam sure it's NOT MY COMPANY whistling.gif Plotong said, if any dealer dare to sell their car by issuing our company cover note, each car will kena penalty RM10 whistling.gif Trust me. So I seldom layan 1st year Plotong exidens whistling.gif garybenjamin sahar and kennywee92 is different story, 2nd year liao Plotong kenot penalty their dealer anymore whistling.gif
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post Nov 6 2013, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Nov 6 2013, 11:03 PM)
just don get kurnia.

was told Lonelypac and Alienz is good but Alienz quite LCLY one.
after ori insurance done, I changed to Lonelypac.
then kena my first butsek ppl exiden  doh.gif

but dono is it Ploton Desa Tun Razak efisen or Lonelypac efisen,
semua tukar baru (bumper, headlights, fog lights & etc)
I told him, SAYA MAU SEMUA TUKAR BARU.
both me n ploton staff laugh
got my car back in ~1.5 weeks only

repair bill ~3k  shocking.gif
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workshop got follow up. usually claim sloe has nothing to do with the insurance company. workshop like to drag your car in the shop for long² time. despite not enough worker, they don't care just pawn your car in first. if you kenot wait, wanna tow it out, can also they will charge you RM3000 discharge fee.

not Kurnia fault many a times(FYI that company already no longer exist since 1st March, 2013). Usually workshop late submit claim system, did not register for adjuster to assess the damage, how insurance company pay?! whistling.gif No pay how to start work? So, usually workshop when not enough worker, they'll blame insurance company doesn't pay whistling.gif
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post Nov 6 2013, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Nov 6 2013, 11:20 PM)
think the price difference is affected by how much they insure ur car for ?

btw YAB, was also told that we shouldn't keep on changing insurance company.
If want change, also better wait few years then only change.
True or not ?
Got effect ka ?
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Fix rate for all motor insurance. Only difference, some insurance company will load high% on driver's age. See how many exiden in LYN ady know whistling.gif Some load at the age of 23 and below, some 25 and below, some no loading at all. Yes you really need to dig for it. However, the only company that put the extra LOADING in the premium, which is ETIQA. So, when your insurance agent tell you no loading on ETIQA, they actually put in the loading IN the premium.

No such thing as kenot change insurance company. However, if you change company every year, meaning your policy is not continue. As and when you decided to sell car, there' higher possibility the insurance company will NOT refund you the balance of the unused insurance day whistling.gif
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post Nov 6 2013, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(adriangan @ Nov 6 2013, 11:16 PM)
Tonight cannot sleep liao... thinking why my SV isn't a FLX after alll... vmad.gif  vmad.gif , the best part... the newer batch is... doh.gif
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What's wrong with FL? sleep.gif So what if it's achi pokai? FC gud, pickup fast. How often did you go 200kph? whistling.gif
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post Nov 7 2013, 06:29 AM

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QUOTE(adriangan @ Nov 7 2013, 12:02 AM)
Highway too fierce at 110  whistling.gif
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3600rpm nia. Den stfu & enjoi da dem kar sleep.gif

QUOTE(ZintanthraX @ Nov 7 2013, 12:23 AM)
i've already made up my mind and chose saga se. still waiting for the loan to be approved. biggrin.gif
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Wai yiu no bai Vios? vmad.gif
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post Nov 7 2013, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(aredill @ Nov 7 2013, 12:34 PM)
Dear otai's, had few question. I owned Saga BLM 1.3 (2008,Manual);
1. Can I use 8" clutch kit (Valeo)? Abit oversize as this preferred for Saga 1.6. Any bad effect?

2. Is it possible current IAFM to IAFM+ (as in FLX)? FC quite bad. Any recommended foremen/workshop?
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1) GaGa 1.6 housing different, don't think you can plonk in. Taxi spec BLM uses Mitshi gearbox a.k.a Persona, whereas BLM biase 1.3 uses AchiPokai from Nissang Sungny 130Y. If you want performance, go for NISMO then whistling.gif

2) No. It will be cheaper to sell off the damn car & buy an SV whistling.gif If thats not an option, slow down your pickup please whistling.gif

QUOTE(mizynee @ Nov 7 2013, 03:38 PM)
tat fella insist send back perodua for repair.. and told my fren he need to rent car while waiting for repair.. then hint2 my fren to cover the car rental fees also.. i ask my fren to ignore him about tat.. coz my fren himself also need to send his car back for services la.. who wish accident to happen..
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Read this carefully, I AM NOT TEACHING YOU DO WHAT I PLAN TO DO:

I will call the front car owner, beg him to give me few more days to come up with the money. Knowing ranjiao GaGa is even cheaper than a MyBi, it's impossible I can fork out money for the repair.

Within 24 hours after accident, go report police sei: "Itu cilakak mia orang reverse keleta talak tengok. Sekalang keleta saya sudah kena langgar depan. Monet pon xleh tutup rapat, wa suh dia bayar kasi setel, dia sakap duet talak. Ape boley buat? Wa suh die mali lipot polis dia enggan. Wa x leh wat apepe la. Skang sy cuma harap die ade insurans. Klu tidak, mampos aku kena repair sendiri. Tu la, budak² bawak mybi lama lagi langsi reverse laju² buatpe, skang dah langgar keta baru orang talak duet bayak pulak, cilakak betol la. Kira nasib la kan? So, bila saye boley tontot dia mia insurans?" Within 3 days, sure the MyBi owner will call back geh. Then its time for me to tell him, "wah! u reverse bang my car still dare to ask me pay ar? like this la, if you pay me RM900 to fix my monet, I will konsider kes kolos, go pulis stasen cancel the case. Otherwise later u kena RM300 saman, sumore loss NCD. How? U think about it lar"

1 week later, pulis full report will kamout. Either way, I still have to pay saman and probably loss NCD, but I wish to make sure that MyBi die together whistling.gif Regardless how the pulis ask, I will die² sei that MyBi banged on my bonet. Settle outside was NEVER in my option. Sekian.

The above story are directly saying what I would do. Have no intention to teach/tell/ask anyone to follow whistling.gif
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post Nov 7 2013, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 7 2013, 10:04 PM)
can describe the sound?
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Nanas sound lai geh sleep.gif

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post Nov 8 2013, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Nov 8 2013, 12:35 AM)
kenot post yet,belum ada lagi,lol...
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sleep.gif faitit, marnee flow like tap water. turned on then jialat liao.
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post Nov 8 2013, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(aredill @ Nov 8 2013, 12:51 AM)
Thanks bro. Thought it same like older plotong cars. My fren iswara put supatoring clutch can also, got more lajak he said  brows.gif

Huhu...sumtime got naik hangin  vmad.gif wan to cocok2 others car (weekends)  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
Wekap late...then got 140kmj all the way to workplace (weekdays)  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Deswai la, FC giler, salah sape? whistling.gif Bukan xleh laju, mau jentel ciket ngan gas pedal. Ciket demi ciket kasi tekan, tunggu momentum build up baru kasi laju. Mau laju pikup BLM mmg boley, tapi FC giler jgn carik alasan dah. Kamon la, 1.3 DOHC 16V, injin busaq tue. Ape mau ag? Mau maen cocok², pakei la MyBi/Vios. Kasi derang potong pon takpe, bape jauh boley pigi? yawn.gif Yg pentengnye, jaga dompet dulu. Nanti duet cukup kasi mengeturbokan whistling.gif
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QUOTE(aredill @ Nov 8 2013, 12:51 AM)
Thanks bro. Thought it same like older plotong cars. My fren iswara put supatoring clutch can also, got more lajak he said  brows.gif
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Iswaga itu pakei 4G1x injin, stok dah mantap. Kasi masok sekepeng Rallyart dah siok pakei. Tukak klac busaq bukan tak baek, tapi pikap bile trafik jem gegar la sbb injin powah talak sukup yawn.gif Ag pon, jgn dgr oang sakap skim flywheel kasi ringan, mampos nanti idling. Jalan strait okeh la, nanti naek buket? Ptui mampos kena tapau Gancil 660 sleep.gif




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post Nov 8 2013, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Nov 8 2013, 12:47 AM)
i also wan 5 5 ,i ask them to do 19mm 1st,lol....i see many ppl mau 19mm
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Cheebai I wan 16 oni. Mine stock kar, no nid 19 whistling.gif Don't wanna risk crack tofu beam sweat.gif
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post Nov 9 2013, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 9 2013, 11:03 AM)
Next time when ppl say "get off my car", they mean "get off my car"

They don't mean "pls continue to sit on my boot ledge and rock kaw my suspensionshakehead.gif

I never do that to you car (I dont even do these things to my own car), so why the fark do you do it to mine?  whistling.gif
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To demonstrate how ARB affect a car, I always does that to other's car. In fact, I normally open door, stuck my hand on the passenger handle and dance on the side step whistling.gif If I invite garybenjamin, kenjilew, Ah Wai do together, the effect even more significant icon_idea.gif

Is this what they do to your car? sleep.gif

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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 9 2013, 11:03 AM)
Next time when ppl say "get off my car", they mean "get off my car"

They don't mean "pls continue to sit on my boot ledge and rock kaw my suspensionshakehead.gif

I never do that to you car (I dont even do these things to my own car), so why the fark do you do it to mine?  whistling.gif
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Speaking of rocking car, this 1 also not bad


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post Nov 10 2013, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(Celest-Lee @ Nov 10 2013, 07:07 AM)
Lol nooooooooooo

Hahahaha jus whack few idiot driver in Singapore only. Thought Malaysia car can bully. Fish you
Malaysia car but singapore attitude driver ok.

Yawn morning. Go back tido
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Don't be so ganas little gurl. Set a gud example for your kid laugh.gif Someone learned his lesson after honk a dugong, kena chase by dugong, kena stopped at trafuck light, dugong open door and slam that someone's rear left door kaw kaw until kemek and run away whistling.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 9 2013, 09:55 PM)
Proton can pair the S4P with any gearbox they want, maybe the Aichipokai was more suitable for a family sedan.

Maybe it Mitsu gearbox was more expensive?

Or maybe Aichipokai had surplus stock from the Sunny era and they sold it to Proton cheap cheap  laugh.gif
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My opinion gathered from various source of magicians I've interviewed, reason for AchiPokai in BLM was due to extremely bad comment from previously launched Gen2 1.3. People was spitting on Plotong logo everywhere in the name of under power & guzzle fuel like Veyron. The AchiPokai gearbox used in BLM/FL manual was NOT a direct transfer from Nisgan Sungny but the housing are very similar, so as gear ratio is very close due to bigger final drive. Plotong did made study on the AchiPokai gearbox before they made their decision on pairing our S4PE into it, for the reason of well known Nisgan Sungny extreme FC phenomena, as well as Nisgan Sungny kind of apek sprint that can quickly achieve 120kph(without considering the noise emit from high rev). Those gear boxes are equally expansive, not that Plotong cut bajet to purchase the AchiPokai.

23second - 5th gear - 3600rpm - 110kph icon_idea.gif Looks familiar to all BLM/FL Manual owner rolleyes.gif


Bear in mind, Sungny doesn't have a rev limiter/fuel cut. Their RPM can go beyond 9k, hence 2nd gear can drag beyond 80kph, unlike BLM/FL on IAFM cut off fuel supply after 7200rpm. Pay attention to below video.

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post Nov 10 2013, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Nov 10 2013, 09:23 AM)
Fappy Birdday  rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(s@ni @ Nov 10 2013, 09:56 PM)
davidke20 i saw at campro owners club at fesbuk

Ular oren, exactly looks like urs hmm.gif is it u selling at fesbuk now? laugh.gif or imitation/copycat
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sleep.gif what can I do to stop them? sleep.gif Before I make it official to share it here I already struggled several days sleep.gif now it's everywhere. And you, have to pick my beefday to voice it out. You're 1 true friend or even closer to call bratha sleep.gif

For your information, the 1 I prepared for you guys is NOT call SELL. Majority of the bulk are traded at COST price(*not including wasting of my petrol) and partial of the latest deal was traded below cost price(material price hike).
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QUOTE(neosaint99 @ Nov 11 2013, 12:54 AM)
Dear All,

My BLM (1st gen) fan doesn't switch off when the key is removed. Once in a while it will switch off. But then after a while the fan comes on again (even after the car is remote locked) and does not switch off.

Has anybody experienced this problem before?

I have checked the fluid levels and everything else I can think off. If the fan never switched off I would guess its the fan relay stuck close. But the thing is it does go off once in may be 20 stops (turn-offs) so I'm stumped.

Any advice would be appreciated.
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Prolly relay stuck(melted), radiator sumbat jor, thermostat rusted. No need to bother sensor, if sensor rosak the fan will not turn at all. Don't give me the "but but but" look. Admit it, BLM old car already, even last batch 2010 stock also going to expire warranty ady sleep.gif Get it to the pomen and have it checked before it's too late. Head gasket set + top overhaul outside easily cost RM1.2k sleep.gif

QUOTE(shinnasuka @ Nov 11 2013, 01:48 AM)
I was wondering, how long can the fuel light last before fuel tank kong? I tried to fill her up, but only can pump RM60 petrol.
From kosong to full shud be aroun RM82 right?
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When fuel warning start to blink, inside tank have about 10 litres. But straw only can suck up another 5 litre or so. Hence, when you see the warning indicator, indeed it's time to fuel up.

QUOTE(aredill @ Nov 11 2013, 03:14 AM)
Gaga tank is 40L,  digital indicator shucjks  mad.gif
I've try dis...warning lite blinking. wait...drive more around 10km.
Then fill her full amount.
wait....tapp!!....only able to fill 30L..maxx.
Mean the reserve still had around 10L  nod.gif 

shakehead.gif eyes fakap again tonite
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You only need to push it 1 time hard enough to drain below 5 litre balance. Once the fuel pump suck AIR.... if memory serve me well, it only cost RM350 for replacement nod.gif Fuel pump itself is a turbine fan motor, the lubrication is the FUEL itself. When it suck air, it will go overheat and burnt itself. End of story. So, next time try harder push the limit see how far can your car go. Mine 500km++/tank max nia, I think if I risk that tank with my fuel pump, 600km no plobrem nod.gif

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