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Heartnsoul
post Nov 2 2013, 03:54 PM

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Hey guys, just wondering, for Komsas KBKK, if the question asks why a certain character(normally putera or raja) or area(heaven or some mystical place) is portrayed to have super powers/mystical powers, what would you guys write?
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QUOTE(mingisms @ Nov 2 2013, 11:01 AM)
Thanks for the tips! Based on marking schemes, centrioles are indeed used to form spindle fibres. smile.gif - centrioles are more of where the spindle fibres join up, and also more specifically, they initiate and organise the formation of microtubules, but that's not in the syllabus.
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I was always under the assumption that Spindle fibers form from the centrioles and the fibers join up at the centromeres blink.gif
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post Nov 2 2013, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(mingisms @ Nov 2 2013, 04:46 PM)
Yep, that is what the book says. You are technically, based on the book, right! But I've read differently from other sources and was answering based on that. Still safer to follow the book for now.

What does the book say for spindle fibres in plants? Plant cells don't have centrioles. I know that my book says that "spindle fibres form without centrioles" but doesn't explain how/what/where.
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Ah k, thanks! smile.gif

Well, I once looked up spindle fibers in yahoo answer, and all I got was that the fibers just pop out without the centrioles. I remember reading that the centrioles only help to ensure the separation goes neatly and orderly. So, I assume the separation will be all messed up and everywhere without them? Hmm, I guess I'll look this up after SPM, ain't got time for distractions for now. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(mingisms @ Nov 2 2013, 04:51 PM)
Do you mean the question would be something like "pada pandangan anda, mengapakah Raja Indera Bumaya dikatakan mempunyai kuasa ajaib?"

I would answer based on the text, ie: because he can turn into a freaking bird
Or why they gave him special powers?

Because it would probably be like to menerapkan unsur fantasi untuk menarik minat pembaca
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Why they gave him special powers. I wrote that for my trials, got 0 for the 4 marks question sweat.gif
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post Nov 3 2013, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(chrisleong99 @ Nov 2 2013, 09:02 PM)
fail akaun will affect me to take business course ?
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Na, heck, even those who didn't take account at all will be taking business courses. brows.gif

QUOTE(mingisms @ Nov 2 2013, 10:37 PM)
Have heard of it. They will give you benefit of doubt. But I wouldn't count on it.
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Well, my Math teacher said its fine as long as you don't underline/double line or whatever students like to do on their final answer. But yea, better just write one in case. sweat.gif

QUOTE(maximR @ Nov 3 2013, 12:03 AM)
I'll take this post with a pinch of salt ( paranoia , maybe ?  tongue.gif ) but yes , you can . One guy was admitted into the hospital for food poisoning and got 9A+ , 1A and he's at Oxford now studying Philosophy , Politics and Economics . Another damaged his head so bad that he was admitted into ICU , but pulled through with 10A+ at the end .

So don't worry , and sleep tight !  biggrin.gif
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You'll get extra time if your in hospital right? sweat.gif

QUOTE(Screen @ Nov 3 2013, 01:19 AM)
Never slept for around 42 hours, been doing Eng and BM state papers, as well as Add Maths, and all the available state papers for Moral. Practised a bit on Sejarah too.

Now, off to sleep...  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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Wow, good luck mate! To think I have been cooling down as the exams got closer.


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post Nov 3 2013, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(mingisms @ Nov 3 2013, 10:28 AM)
Feeling like my preparations are not sufficient, but I am doing as much as possible. Once BM is over I will be quite relieved. It's hard to feel prepared for BM, especially karangan. I'm writing a karangan a day and I still feel like they're quite substandard. Will have to go through them to make a few corrections and pump myself up a bit. I've been reading contoh karangan from the internet but oh god I hate the way they write and try to fit in all the ungkapan menarik. It just seems so contrived and forced and I hate it.

On a less depressing note, those of you who do all 4 essays for science subjects, are you gonna do them in chronological order or in the order of the ones you can answer best?
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True this. Sadly, most of my contoh karangans and even the ones written by the teacher seems to try to force all those peribahasa and stuff into the karangan.


Anyways, was wondering, for BI essay, if the essay question is write an essay starting with " blah blah blah". Blah blah blah does not have to be the first sentence right? As long as it's in the first paragraph? Same thing for the last paragraph?
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QUOTE(mingisms @ Nov 3 2013, 10:51 AM)
I find that some contohs actually have very weak isi and huraian, but is filled with ~ungkapan menarik and ~peribahasa. Normally it would look very impressive but I was reading them to look for points and realised that "eh no points also just bullshit! Hahaha.  notworthy.gif

shocking.gif CAN MEH? I thought if "write an essay starting with blah blah blah" then must literally start with blahblahblah.
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Yes, well I read them for the Ungkapan menarik anyways. Darn, this thread is making me nervy.

Well, for the English essay part, I heard yes from my teacher, anyone mind confirming this for me?

QUOTE(flamemusic @ Nov 3 2013, 01:42 PM)
lol, moral where got so low ...
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Change Moral with Pendidikan Islam then it becomes believable.

QUOTE(Screen @ Nov 3 2013, 01:58 PM)
Photoshop level: 99999999999

This is the 2010 one -.-
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Tengok tak permainan dia? rclxms.gif


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post Nov 3 2013, 06:43 PM

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Shangar, just wondering, for SPM Moral esei, does your dad recommend to write the nilais in different perenggan or all 3 in one perenggan? Thanks!
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QUOTE(Shangar96 @ Nov 3 2013, 04:40 PM)
Impossible. My dad is a SPM marker for Moral. Last year's A+ mark was 96 where as 2011 was 94. He said this year it would be most probably same as last year or increase again.  shakehead.gif
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Hm, KPM Brusary started in 2011. Coincidence?
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QUOTE(FatE.DeStiNyy @ Nov 3 2013, 07:37 PM)
Lol 85 A- for moral? then i think the amount of people who get a for moral would be so little. Maybe your father just trying to motivate you.
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Could be possible. Penang's head marker for PM said A+ was around 94

QUOTE(Shangar96 @ Nov 3 2013, 07:44 PM)
All in one and underlining the nilai after writing would be a better option according to him. smile.gif
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Thanks!
QUOTE(Shang123 @ Nov 3 2013, 08:12 PM)
Is there a possibility that the Komsas questions from SPM 2011 and 2012 won't repeat. And also including the SPM July papers on 2012/2013. If that's so it will cut down by 12 komsas for me to study. Am sorta in a rush.
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Yes, just ignore those 12
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post Nov 4 2013, 03:34 PM

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So guys, anyone have any tips on what to do for the remaining 36 hours or so? I feel that I have done all that I can and it would be better off if I just chill, but at the same time I feel unproductive blink.gif First time for this.

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QUOTE(Shangar96 @ Nov 4 2013, 11:52 AM)
1) Always have an extra answer to each question.
2) Always underline the nilai. No matter structure or essay.
3) Use RASIONAL as the third nilai.
4) If forgot definisi, use kata kunci for essay. The marking scheme has kata kunci as well. Not many people dare to do this though.
5) Always have the word NILAI in front of each nilai. The marking scheme does not state the answer is wrong if there is no "nilai" in front, but some crazy teachers put wrong. Many students lost mark there. Just for a safer choice, put "nilai".

Hope this helps.  thumbup.gif
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I thought we were supposed to use Kata Kunci in the first place? blink.gif Nilai + KK1 + contoh + KK2 + contoh

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post Nov 4 2013, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(mingisms @ Nov 4 2013, 04:00 PM)
Chill, watch a movie, reread the komsas tomorrow, sleep. Or focus on another subject if you feel unproductive. Am doing sejarah now, gonna reread everything before the 5 days gap! smile.gif
Oh, also, in relation to your earlier question, some schools teach them to write with definisi, then two huraian and two contoh. Two different ways of writing, both accepted.
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Ah, k. Thanks for the advice smile.gif

QUOTE(4896la @ Nov 4 2013, 04:11 PM)
Guys, how about the tatabahasa part? The kesalahan tatabahasa dan istilah, which method u all use to correct it everytime?
I always use this arrow method but my tuition teacher say tidak digalakkan
Eg.  i) ibubapa -> ibu bapa
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I just a table. Um, since we are on this topic? If we are using table, do we need to justify if we are correcting tatabahasa or istilah, or just kesalahan?

QUOTE(Shangar96 @ Nov 4 2013, 05:43 PM)
Does anyone here planning to use pencil for other purposes besides for the graph?
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Yes, shading the answer biggrin.gif

But yea, shading graphs and diagrams(labeling is done with pen)
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Nov 4 2013, 06:39 PM)
Officialy done with school. Had a blessing ceremony today and apologised to everyone, Most of my classmates (especially the girls) cried a lot. I didnt cry at all. Dunno why but I didnt have any feelings like I did when I was sitting for the PMR..

Anyways will probably miss them all so much since I dont have any other friends out there..
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Yea, the boys in my class didn't cry either. Can't say the same for the girls, but I'm sure the boys are holding back the tears.

Anyways, just asked my English teacher who is a marker. If the question asks us to start the essay with "blah blah blah", it does not have to be the first sentence. As long as it is in the first paragraph, it's fine.
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QUOTE(RED-HAIR-SHANKS @ Nov 4 2013, 06:47 PM)
I don't think we have to, or unless you're bold enough to give it a shot? blush.gif It might not be that hard for me to pinpoint the kesalahan and rectify it, but I might put myself in deep trouble if I were to justify them wrongly, I'm so not going to take my chances.
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True, actually, which kesalahan is easy to identify, just worried that I make some silly mistakes.
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Yes, I noticed that too. Even the contoh karangan given by my teacher had weak points. Ways to stop gejala social among youths and guess what? Semangat Kejiranan is one of four ways. doh.gif

I usually try to make my karangans flow nicely, but when all 5 karangans are not something I'm familiar with, I have no choice but to goreng-goreng weak isi with tons of awesome words to "mengeliru" rclxub.gif the marker rclxm9.gif

They would be like : Wow...this student...bagus bagus, banyak kata darjat tinggi, tapi saya tak tau langsung apa dia ingin sampaikan...whatever la, dia ni cerdik pandai, tengok dia mia ayat, darjat tinggi yo, bagus! 85!

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QUOTE(mingisms @ Nov 4 2013, 07:28 PM)
... is it really that hard? I mean, some topics are a bit tricky, but on a whole it's not that hard to find 5 isi... is it? Haha maybe my isi terpesong  rclxub.gif
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Good isi is hard. Neighbours helping to reduce social problems is ugh.
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QUOTE(cuzuamazing @ Nov 4 2013, 09:08 PM)
for part A, at least 3. and at least use 3 frasa menarik if u want good grades.
for part B, at least 5. and at least use 3-5 frasa menarik if u want good grades
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Wow, my class all forcefully force frasa menarik into the karangan, and the end results, 3-5 per paragraph, haha rclxms.gif

QUOTE(D-Frog @ Nov 4 2013, 09:58 PM)
I think I am the only idiot here who failed his sejarah .
Section A - how to write lot of answer if given only little space bro . tongue.gif
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SPM will have tons of space, it's like they don't even care for the trees.

QUOTE(cuzuamazing @ Nov 4 2013, 10:01 PM)
i actually got 75, but since a lot of people in my class got 73 or 68 etc, my teacher divide 230 instead of 240. tongue.gif so i got 78
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What about the lisan marks?

QUOTE(Boy96 @ Nov 4 2013, 10:16 PM)
Holy  shocking.gif

BTW, Can u guys highlight me for the HOTS question (High Order Thinking skill)? How does the soalan looks like and what should be the answer?
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I'm guessing it's harder version of KBKK questions? There most likely won't be too many HOTS questions or A+ will be 75 doh.gif
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If only I could feed on the panic in this thread, I would become Goku blink.gif (POWAH LEVA OVAH 9000)
 
Come on guys, let's just chill, treat this like a normal exam and we'll be fine. Worrying too much will probably cause lack of sleep or panic meltdowns

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post Nov 5 2013, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Nov 5 2013, 08:48 AM)
every exam I also chill ,probably because my class mates all chilling type tongue.gif , but still got study lah. Ya make sure to sleep early today, no later than 10PM if not tomorrow will be sleepy when doing the exams.
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my classmates are on facebook/taking pictures of themselves rclxms.gif

QUOTE(Screen @ Nov 5 2013, 09:35 AM)
Brushing up on KOMSAS, Novel and some peribahasas. Reading through some karangan points also, in case can goreng into exam.

No breakfast... LET THE HUNGER GAMES... BEGIN!
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I had chicken rice notworthy.gif

QUOTE(Boy96 @ Nov 5 2013, 09:49 AM)
Holy crap I am panicking already please helppp
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Have a look at Maxis' siggy. cool.gif

but yea, avoid this thread if it makes you nervy. Remember:

Kalau takut diserang Kaiju, jangan berumah di tepi pantai
Kalau takut dipijak Ultraman, jangan berumah di Bandaraya Tokyo
Kalau takut diserang UFO, jangan berumah di New York

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