I hope I have chance to audit zero dac especially those heavily modded one But recently i'm very much less spending time on head-fi stuffs, slowly shifting into hifi stuff.. I should say hifi stuffs are just too.. poisonous hehe. Now most of the time hd650 i use it for skype chatting lol

Well, for yulong dac alone + its amp, IMO it performs pretty well, especially the amp section. The amp section they actually use similar desigh like lehmann amp, which pair really well especially with senn's can. I tried zhaolu before, compare to dah1 i still prefer dah1. However dah1 for me it's not really neutral... some colour added to the music, it's more like.. giving the music a boost in every aspect. Some people like it, some ppl not. Pretty detail, but sometimes lack of musical on certain degree. If you ask me to give a final word for yulong dah1, I would say.. it's good for those who normally use lower quality source like mp3 (i'm not talking about mp3 below 192khz), or those wma.. It really gives a BIG IMPROVEMENT if you listen to those source. However if your source are in wav and so on, you'll just notice some colour add-on, improvement wise, yes but not much.

Regarding the darkvoice, it improves in overall, especially with hd650.. Tried it with cai qin's songs, nice... really nice.. but again i tried akg701 on my dv337, I personally don't like it (perhaps akg cans r not my cup of tea or matching prob)..

If you are around KL, maybe you can come to audit if you want? Since you use hd650 too. I'm bad in words, so I can't really give a proper review / description for what i've heard by my ears. Again i find it hard to describe if we don't have an AB comparison..

Yeah, weird right? I think the improvement over mp3 is just like.. make it sounds better than it should be For me 1st time when i heard by myself, I got a shock as well. But it's clearly stated in the user manual and also from the designer yulong himself, the purpose of dah1 is meant to be used pair with pc audio since nowadays quite a number of ppl use pc as source.

Nop dah1 don't have xlr output. Regarding the xindak 5 dac, from spec wise it looks promising but again without any audition i dare not to make any recommendation hehe. Like you've said, a man's food might be another man's poison. But 1 thing i should point out due to my personal experience.. China-made product can be really best bang for bucks, with lowest price give you the best possible specs that you can get within the range, but when come to quality wise.. that really depends on your luck. My yulong dah1 spoil once less than 1 month, for no reason. And when i refer to china erji.net, quite some user also suffered this where their new units are having prob. End up I have to send it back all the way to china to get it repaired. Some might really disagree with my statement here, but this is just to share

Haha sure, i personally more interested trying dt can.. and also like to try your hd650 with the crystal cable if i'm not mistaken heh.. too bad i think i made a wrong decision to get the cardas cable for hd650, basically not much improvement over the cans, from what i found, only increase in durability Wonder why some of them claim that they notice day & night difference lol.. again, my mistake to rely on the review too much

If you are a basshead, then forget about it. However SQ wise it's pretty worth it for the price you paid for. Erm.. i think HD is just a code name, doesn't mean anything

Kinda agree with you too.. don't really like how it sound when it's being covered up.

But anyway sep90, try it out and let us know what's the outcome wahaha.. closed-type senn hd650, you sure it worth trying?

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Added on December 15, 2008, 5:20 pmYup just purchase from our forumer here walabies (aiya walabies not consider as uncle yet la, still so young-looking )

Unless you have extra cash, you can go to Mediaplex, or AllIT to get it

This post has been edited by nicholas_1213: Dec 15 2008, 05:20 PM

Boss, no need to buy replacement for the headpad la.. I understand, bcos as time goes by the inner form will somehow 'vanish'.. happen to mine too, and bcome totally flat, very uncomfortable. But guess what? We can always DIY what Cut a small opening, buy a pillow whichever u feel comfortable, cut it out, gorek the cotton out and fill it thru the small opening, then stitch back..

Below are some of my pics..


See the small stitch?


Another pic.


Perfectly done!

Took me 1 hour to complete it thou (filling up all 4 package)

Lol no prob mate.. I'm not sure, bcos it happen to another of my senn;s earpad also -senn hd515. when i opened up, i only found some black powder-like substance. Guess that they just put some synthetic foam inside, and throughout the normal wear, it degraded and become powder-like substance.

The challenging part is to sew it back and make it not visible as much as possible. But as long as you are patient enough, it's just piece of cake

Ya no joke seriously they smell like sh!t.. Sounds good but it'll somehow affect your listening mood lol..

But after a while it'll be gone la..

Try listening to those better one and try to make this statement again But if you are really a basshead, then.. perhaps get some other headphones

Lol even the look itself is awesome.. Btw your leather earpad is still on the way?

Can't wait to listen to your hd650.. any name for it? hehe..

1 HD800 / 1 pair of sonus faber concertino home, which one will you go for? I'm just comparing for fun and I know it's not a direct comparison, but somehow.. it's interesting

This post has been edited by nicholas_1213: Feb 10 2009, 04:23 PM

Guys just to let you know I'm letting go my combo set - sennheiser hd600 & Darkvoice 332 to find a better owner. Been under utilize it all these while, after all, I only have a pair of ear .. Check out my thread below.

Haha i'm still a senn lover all the time

Hemm between both of them somehow i still like hd650 more, so.. only one guy stay lol..

I actually don't mind keeping them, but the thing is.. other than sitting there doing nothing, I actually don't do much with them (in fact, same goes to the dv337 and hd650, but that one i'm keeping for sure )

Haha not hd800 la boss.. that'll take away my hands and legs Well thinking of buying some of other stuffs / just simply make my bank account looks healthier hehe

Really.. haha.. then maybe you can just send the can for us lol.. just kidding

When @ where is it heh? If possible will try to squeeze up a time to meet up hehe.. recently the workload is just.. crazy >.<

Now that's tempting, a portable hd650 perhaps? Didn't get a chance to audit the IE8 yet..

Perhaps you need an amp for it.

Another victim lol.. So, what's 1st item in your mind now?

Ehem I'm already one of them

Yeah I think you've made a damn right choice! (lol, hopefully don't get flamed )

Your next item is HD800

Normally I would say if a new (not owned previously) product with the price offered that is surprisingly much lower than the retail one, high chances that it's counterfeit product, just the rule of thumb and simple sense. Nobody will do a business without profit and thinking of us$2x.xx which already included the profit margin, it'll only lead you to 3 questions.

1. Sennheiser is taking freaking high profit margin while the cost is only <$2x.xx?

2. You meet 1 nice fella who is doing charity.

3. The are selling another product but they named it as Sennheiser CX400 too.

3 of them are possible but I won't risk my money as I myself came across this problem twice, wouldn't want to make the 3rd same mistake

Aik PcWork didn't know that your hd650 already reach your hand.. And great start for the cable (but bad for my wallet lol)!

Btw hd650 for you side meal only lol.. even the 'thing' that you put speaker on it cost around RM2k already, what is this HD650