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Guitars Need Advice Vintage Ibanez Guitar., Repaired! Need Advice regarding Pickup

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TSOshika
post Oct 21 2013, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(bshen92 @ Oct 21 2013, 10:51 PM)
Does it really need a pickup upgrade? What is it about the current pickups that you're not satisfied with?

I reckon you should get that shim and crack at the neck joint looked at, clean up the guitar, restring it and set it up. And that's it. (Can't see the condition of the frets, so can't say whether it needs a refret.)

That is one sweet guitar!
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i just not satisfied with pickup (not really rosak i mean, maybe my ear need to repair laugh.gif )


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post Feb 12 2014, 10:01 AM

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i choose to revive this guitar (before i sell or before i use for a rest of my life. LOL)
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post Feb 12 2014, 10:45 AM

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The humbucker will be louder than single coils, so it should be louder/gainier. All HSS guitars have this quirk.
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The humbucker will be louder than single coils, so it should be louder/gainier. All HSS guitars have this quirk.
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even in bridge position?? then what thing that can make our guitar pickup become low output?? can repair or need to change?? any suggestion??
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Usually theres just a slight difference in output, did it bother you much?

You can try to balance them by adjusting the pickups height with a screwdriver. Either lower the humbucker or increase the single coil height.
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post Feb 12 2014, 01:18 PM

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The humbucker having lower output, i think i need to rise it not lower it right?? I'll try this method.. Will back with the result
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QUOTE(Oshika @ Feb 12 2014, 01:18 PM)
The humbucker having lower output, i think i need to rise it not lower it right?? I'll try this method.. Will back with the result
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I think I misunderstood you.. your humbucker should not have lower output. Something is probably wrong with the electronics/wiring.

(No need to adjust the pickups height, wont help in this case.)
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post Feb 12 2014, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(quarantined @ Feb 12 2014, 02:05 PM)
I think I misunderstood you.. your humbucker should not have lower output. Something is probably wrong with the electronics/wiring.

(No need to adjust the pickups height, wont help in this case.)
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upps ok ok, im about to adjust my pickup, lucky i check LYN first.. haha.. so any suggestion regarding the replacement pickup??
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post Feb 13 2014, 12:42 AM

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You said a guy checked the guitar, he didnt mention the pickup problem?

Thing is, it might just because wiring problem that can be fixed cheaply, whereas replacing pups are costly, unless thats what you want...
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post Feb 13 2014, 08:04 AM

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I have a plan in mind about how to restore it. Just want to ask, you want it as it was before or with some modern tweaks ?

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What I would do if I'm restoring this one

>disassembly, that includes the neck and all the hardwares
>pre-clean up
>fretboard treatment, check the nut and refret as necessary
>strip the body down to bare wood, treat/repair where needed
>check cavities, shielding/coating
>refinish - either oil it (will look badass) or anything you like
>check the crack, repair if necessary (dunno how lol)
>check neck joint area (body & neck), screw threads etc
>replace the electronics, pickups, jacks, pickguard, knobs
>check hardwares - machine heads/trem etc
>assemble & setup
>PLUG & PLAY

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post Feb 13 2014, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(quarantined @ Feb 13 2014, 12:42 AM)
You said a guy checked the guitar, he didnt mention the pickup problem?

Thing is, it might just because wiring problem that can be fixed cheaply, whereas replacing pups are costly, unless thats what you want...
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yeah i told them to check all the wiring and pickup also but they said only pot problem, so they changed the pot n switch n output jack.. actually before they change the pot i already feel that my humbucker is producing low gain, but i think it's normal since the positions is BRIDGE pickup.

QUOTE(regiuseven @ Feb 13 2014, 08:04 AM)
I have a plan in mind about how to restore it. Just want to ask, you want it as it was before or with some modern tweaks ?

Add:
What I would do if I'm restoring this one

>disassembly, that includes the neck and all the hardwares
>pre-clean up
>fretboard treatment, check the nut and refret as necessary
>strip the body down to bare wood, treat/repair where needed
>check cavities, shielding/coating
>refinish - either oil it (will look badass) or anything you like
>check the crack, repair if necessary (dunno how lol)
>check neck joint area (body & neck), screw threads etc
>replace the electronics, pickups, jacks, pickguard, knobs
>check hardwares - machine heads/trem etc
>assemble & setup
>PLUG & PLAY
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Actually i want to keep the look as vintage guitar.. here some list i did before:

>disassembly, that includes the neck and all the hardwares (Checked)
>pre-clean up (Checked)
>fretboard treatment (Clean n moist Checked), check the nut and refret as necessary (Done)
>check cavities, shielding/coating (No Cooper shielding at the moment only coating)
>check the crack, repair if necessary (crack not a big problem at this moment)
>check neck joint area (body & neck), screw threads etc (Checked)
>replace the electronics, pickups, jacks, pickguard, knobs (Pot, 5way switch and jack are replaced)
>check hardwares - machine heads/trem etc (machine heads smooth, checked. tremolo arm missing sad.gif since it's old model, dun know which arm compatible)
>assemble & setup (setup, checked. radius, fret level, intonation, action, all checked)
>PLUG & PLAY (of course i did play.. lol, but mainly i use Neck n Mid pickup for now, cause if i use bridge pickup, i need to re-adjust the volume on my pedal board or even need to add a clean booster)


anyway if i have to strip the body and re finish, i don't think i can do by myself since it's nitro finish, i need some chemical to strip the body to bare wood.. but if i can do this into bare wood i sure can't refinish it back as good as this one.. rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

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post Feb 13 2014, 12:17 PM

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did the lanciao tech u sent to check pickup resistance and compare to the original specs see if its still the same?

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post Feb 13 2014, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Feb 13 2014, 12:17 PM)
did the lanciao tech u sent to check pickup resistance and compare to the original specs see if its still the same?
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hm in this case they don't tell me if the pickup still same or not with the original spec, but i know that they don't cheat me by changing the pickup behind me, cause i got a "special mark" on my pickup from first time i get this guitar. nod.gif
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QUOTE(Oshika @ Feb 13 2014, 12:19 PM)
hm in this case they don't tell me if the pickup still same or not with the original spec, but i know that they don't cheat me by changing the pickup behind me, cause i got a "special mark" on my pickup from first time i get this guitar.  nod.gif
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cos lanciao tech la tongue.gif
at least measure resistance compare to original spec, then can confirm that its not pickup fault thats producing low output.
like you go mechanic tell him your car tyre flat, but instead of pumping air to fix they just increase the suspension tongue.gif
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post Feb 13 2014, 12:33 PM

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wait wait i kinda misunderstand what is "lanciao tech"? i got a Bad translation about "lanciao" laugh.gif and how to measure the resistance compare to original?? cause this guitar is kinda 20years old, the documentation is very hard to find especially the electronic spec..
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post Feb 13 2014, 12:41 PM

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i'm pretty sure its not hard to find the specs.
can still find gibson specs that are 50yrs old.
and well if you're gonna get original specs of something, i would think the best place to ask are the original manufacturers?
if not also, there is jemsite.com where u can ask.
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post Feb 13 2014, 12:53 PM

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^ LOL

as for refinishing, stripping/sanding down definitely takes time but doing it yourself would be worth it
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post Feb 13 2014, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Feb 13 2014, 12:41 PM)
i'm pretty sure its not hard to find the specs.
can still find gibson specs that are 50yrs old.
and well if you're gonna get original specs of something, i would think the best place to ask are the original manufacturers?
if not also, there is jemsite.com where u can ask.
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will try.. anyway it's ibanez.. lol.. i remember one of guitar master here said "anything except ibanez"

QUOTE(regiuseven @ Feb 13 2014, 12:53 PM)
^ LOL

as for refinishing, stripping/sanding down definitely takes time but doing it yourself would be worth it
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where to find that chemical?? mind to share??
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post Feb 13 2014, 01:59 PM

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DiMarzio IBZ V6F
Brand:        DiMarzio
Construction: Humbucker
Position:        Bridge
Magnet:        Ceramic/Alnico 5

Description: Humbucker pickup used for RX series and some S Prestige models in the bridge position.
Powerful-sounding with quick response. Enhanced harmonics and overtones.
Here what i got after fast research. look at the bold statement.. not even powerful for me lol.. now time to physical check on my guitar..
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post Feb 13 2014, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(Oshika @ Feb 13 2014, 01:45 PM)
will try.. anyway it's ibanez.. lol.. i remember one of guitar master here said "anything except ibanez"
where to find that chemical?? mind to share??
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Try ACE Hardware, maybe they have the chems for stripping down the original finish
Tung oil for refinishing also might be available as well

and that master is of course our great bro Everdying laugh.gif

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