They are not worth 3k lah. No matter what. I have seen quality of the grad work (always need guidance), they are not even at par with RM2.3k leave alone 3k.

You cannot compare to bigger flippers in the US. If you want to compare then our exchange rate should be RM1 to USD1.

Why should they take the risk? Majority are not worth the time. And once hired they cannot sack. So they are stuck. Might as well take a better one even if they have to pay more.

Like it or not, sterotype does exist and in fact commonly exist. Some of us called that "X" factor. My former boss hardly take in any fat employee.

Ulama are highly respected Muslim scholars. What you wrote down about Ulama is very offensive to the Muslims.

well.. if u pay 2.3k u get 2.3k quality... i rather pay 3k and keep them happy..

I suppose that's why the talented ones don't wanna come back to Malaysia. Just being a full time assistant to a professor earns at least 2k pm USD there. And 40k pa is the lowest I can imagine as an international hire. And since most end up in consulting, big tech firms or FIs, they see 70k pa and above.

And well, most people only know Harvard MIT Oxford and Cambridge. So there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of advantage if someone is a foreign grad either.

This post has been edited by mumeichan: Oct 18 2013, 09:17 AM

But i seen many PWC grad getting 2.4-2.8k but quality of work like 1.3k.

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This post has been edited by UnknownDave: Mar 19 2015, 12:13 PM

ya... times are tough

i wonder what u get from bn job fairs

35% went to work oversea

For a chance to work with PWC's advisory team, I won't mind 2.4-2.8 at all. Hope those people leave and take other makan gaji job so there's some room for me

This post has been edited by mumeichan: Oct 18 2013, 10:31 PM

that's your perception... companies have a responsibility and duty to pay a respectable wage and provide sufficient support for their employees to grow

well, on the long term, a good coy will not stinge on the wage even if supply for employees is widely avail

also you compete on cost, increase you competencies instead...

You must be one of those PWC joker grads who ask for 2.5k a month?

Depends. If the newer gen got attitude like yours, not humble, think they are too dam good, I won't hire people like you.

Come interview, listen to the way you talk, interviewers also don't want to hire, Gen Y like you, can talk back one.

I just got to wonder how does their PWC audit assistants ever justify asking for RM2.5k when they bug their client non-stop. Its like this their client is busy doing the closing, and 4 audit assistants line up literally in a row, first one come and bug you, tell you to prepare this and that schedule, second one come ask you to get this and that schedule...until the 4th one. If a person is paid RM2.5k starting pay, one would expect one has enough logic thinking to give the client some space and time to prepare the stuff for them.

When I started work for Deloitte Kassim Chan my starting pay was only 1.6k. Now these people are asking between 2.5-3k, it is a joke.

Well as a fresh grad, my academic qualifications are kinda maxed out already. Companies aren't considering me for a job either because I don't have a corporate experience or they think psychology is a 'dumb' degree.

After 2 months of job hunting, I'm now applying for internships instead of full time positions.

So I don't really have much of a choice to compete on cost. If that doesn't work either I guess I've no choice but to return to research in US and real with the troublesome visa.

All your posts are unconstructive and constantly criticising and putting down people. Wonder why you do that. Not doing well at work and taking it out on the fresh graduates?

No. doing extremely well. The fella attack me first me, so i defend la. I saying only those pwc grad asking for 3k, but when they work, they expect client to prepare all the schedule for them, then ask us client about the technical stuff, repeat again same questions the audit assistant ask last year: don't auditors keep a record of this in their working papers? My time, we work with lower pay and we figure out how to do the work ourselves instead of asking other people for help. So you think it is fair or not when one gets 3k but don't deserve it. Why? Fresh grad butthurt is it?

you're so wrong.. it is the responsibilities of the client to provide the BS in good order... whatever lacking is either the accts dept is not up to par or the auditors are trying to find out more info which is actually good for the coy

the more time the client needs the more time the client got to pay, probably the accts dept would surely want more time, but the bosses would want the auditors to complete their job asap to meet regulatory req and also pay less $$$

well, that's you.. it depends on individual... if someone is from a respectable school with a certain competency as expected of a freshgrad, then i believe for today's price rm3k is reasonable

yeaps, you know your prob and both are right... should had considered before you undertake that course

are you a little too choosy?

Question guys,
Has the minimum salary enforced?

Or is it still in the process of 'fine-tuning'?

No they are not competent to receice 3k.

The financial statements are in good order. We provide the same every year, ok. Nowadays the gen Y auditors literally want the client to do everything for them. They ask you to prepare the schedule, then they ask us to find the supporting document for them, ensure I find more than 50% of the documentation. That is ridiculous ! They should go to the cupboard and do this themselves ! This is pure spoonfeeding.

My time at Deloitte, we prepare the schedules ourselves and we go look for the supporting. Thats why the client is so happy to have us around.

Another thing is that the audit assistants ask the same question every year. At least they can ask is, let say "Hi, from our working papers, we realise that every year according the accounting standards, you DR your Asset and DR your Accruals this way due to the specific of the industry, just want to confirm, do you still treat it this way in 2013?".

I be impress if the auditor ask like that. But what I get is this:,

"Why you Dr your Asset like this and then you credit your Accruals like that?"

It just show they not doing their homework and not refering back to previous year working papers. I have to waste my time to explain to them.

Also another thing is that the audit assistants are very QUIET. They don't like to mix with the client. We took them to a japanese restaurant, they order the most expensive stuff, then expecting them to mingle professionally (afterall they are paid RM3k becaus of their good professional attitude and skills), we find only the Audit Senior is the one who is proficient in conversing with us. When we try to break the ice with the audit assistants, they just gave a "one word" answer. I thought that best paid graduates tend to talk loudest because they want to stand out. Unfortunately, they are quiet people and this shows they not even worth RM3k a month even based on their ability to communicate with their clients.