QUOTE(minizian @ Oct 8 2013, 09:57 PM)
I tot is over edi? Saw the queue mega long so i couldnt bother to have a look at it. I am thinking getting custom made stainless steel racing frame or ti frame
oh yeah! that's the spirit!LYN Cycling V9, Racing/Road bikes- Ironman Malaysia 2014
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anyone got connection or know Bike Pro boss ?
was looking at Lazer Helium World Champion. Not sure how much can nego |
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1. Which is better, hydraulic system or the conventional? I heard Mark Cavendish use it for a while(at recent TdF if I'm not mistaken) and revert back.
2. Disc brake is slowly making its way into roadbike. I heard there are some technical issues with UCI. Your take? I'd love to hear opinions from you guys. |
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QUOTE(Nazrull @ Oct 9 2013, 08:37 AM) 1. Which is better, hydraulic system or the conventional? I heard Mark Cavendish use it for a while(at recent TdF if I'm not mistaken) and revert back. hydraulic brakes is something that I really missed from my MTB. the brakes are extremely responsive, and you do not to apply much pressure to engage them. in fact, its quite common to just brake with a single finger for the hydraulic brakes on the MTB. however for RB use, the braking power tends to be toned down in order to avoid sudden wheel lockups.2. Disc brake is slowly making its way into roadbike. I heard there are some technical issues with UCI. Your take? I'd love to hear opinions from you guys. I guess one huge advantage on RB is that it moves the braking surface away from the rims to the disc in the middle, thus eliminating the problem of carbon rims overheating for UCI, seems to be mainly 2 safety concerns. what happens in a fast moving peloton when different riders has brakes that behaves differently. and the very real risk of getting bad burns should skin happened to contact the hot disc surfaces (should not happen when riding, but a possibility in the event of a crash) |
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ever thought of how fast the wheel change with disc brake?
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Oct 9 2013, 08:21 AM) anyone got connection or know Bike Pro boss ? ask miao.... he has some secret handshakes that can get you "special treatment" was looking at Lazer Helium World Champion. Not sure how much can nego QUOTE(Nazrull @ Oct 9 2013, 08:37 AM) 1. Which is better, hydraulic system or the conventional? I heard Mark Cavendish use it for a while(at recent TdF if I'm not mistaken) and revert back. Cav was using sram hydraulic calipers (not disc) in TDF.... and he seems to be the only one using them...it's just a marketing ploy...2. Disc brake is slowly making its way into roadbike. I heard there are some technical issues with UCI. Your take? I'd love to hear opinions from you guys. UCI does not condone disc brakes on road races... only cyclocross for safety reasons... if people is counting grams... hydraulic brakes are actually reversing that as hydraulic systems ends up with heavier shifter, heavier hydraulic brake cables, heavier calipers... quite counter productive... and depending on what you have now... you might have to spend a lot to convert it even to the sram hydraulic rim brake caliper... |
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QUOTE(malleus @ Oct 9 2013, 09:15 AM) hydraulic brakes is something that I really missed from my MTB. the brakes are extremely responsive, and you do not to apply much pressure to engage them. in fact, its quite common to just brake with a single finger for the hydraulic brakes on the MTB. however for RB use, the braking power tends to be toned down in order to avoid sudden wheel lockups. hydraulics is nice given you have the calipers to match them... poorly made hydraulic brakes actually either feels spongy or just totally suck balls...modulation is the keyword in hydraulic brake systems... and maintenance (miao's favvy topic) is crucial.... I guess one huge advantage on RB is that it moves the braking surface away from the rims to the disc in the middle, thus eliminating the problem of carbon rims overheating for UCI, seems to be mainly 2 safety concerns. what happens in a fast moving peloton when different riders has brakes that behaves differently. and the very real risk of getting bad burns should skin happened to contact the hot disc surfaces (should not happen when riding, but a possibility in the event of a crash) and regarding the topic of removing the factor of rim heat... yes, it's true that it might advantage carbon rims where the heat factor might be a threat to the wheel and without that, they can make even lighter wheels... but, you also have to remember that there is a factor of hydraulic brake fluids boiling.. and with poorly maintained (long time never went through bleeding)... any air bubbles within the fluid expands with the heat and then shit happens when you find your lever touches your handlebar and it still doesn't stop the bike... on the topic of whether mtb or roadies brake harder is a debatable topic, but you seldom find MTB have to sustain long and hard braking from high speeds on a descend like road bikes do.... and then there is also the topic of debate... the drag on the disc as usually the pads are sometimes slightly touching the rotors or the rotors might be warped or the interface is not tight causing it to fling around a bit and causing some drag... being the a~holes that roadies are who count even a 2 watt advantage from berner pulley systems... the drag would counter all the advantages of the upgrades they do.... it's a fun thing to own... QUOTE(miaopurr @ Oct 9 2013, 09:20 AM) F1 meh....we not racing lar... when have you see in interstate or century ride someone puncture and then suddenly 10 people gather around the bike to change the wheel in under 4 seconds??? no right...QUOTE(lilredridinghood @ Oct 9 2013, 09:28 AM) LOL, depending on his mood one la him. If mood tak baik and u nego, be prepared to get sneering comments from him. depends on who he sees as well... if he dun like your cepet face.. u better get out quick....QUOTE(KTCY @ Oct 9 2013, 09:30 AM) he is sometimes quite the enthusiastic talker... if you dun meet him face to face...QUOTE(miaopurr @ Oct 9 2013, 09:32 AM) wat gossips... the ones between you and unker???should i start it? QUOTE(miaopurr @ Oct 9 2013, 09:37 AM) covered in dust? can nego for discount then... |
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now my time feel scary pulak....
syam the ivy poison open challenge me in powerman, yet i dont know who is she... now i gotta train harder, and cycle as hard as i can, cycle escape from stalker during my Powerman cycling leg... i scared being stalked.... btw, anyone else joining Powerman cycling leg???? |
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Oct 9 2013, 10:03 AM) now my time feel scary pulak.... any link to the said event ?syam the ivy poison open challenge me in powerman, yet i dont know who is she... now i gotta train harder, and cycle as hard as i can, cycle escape from stalker during my Powerman cycling leg... i scared being stalked.... btw, anyone else joining Powerman cycling leg???? |
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QUOTE(butthead @ Oct 9 2013, 09:47 AM) ask miao.... he has some secret handshakes that can get you "special treatment" miaopurr can help ke ? Cav was using sram hydraulic calipers (not disc) in TDF.... and he seems to be the only one using them...it's just a marketing ploy... UCI does not condone disc brakes on road races... only cyclocross for safety reasons... if people is counting grams... hydraulic brakes are actually reversing that as hydraulic systems ends up with heavier shifter, heavier hydraulic brake cables, heavier calipers... quite counter productive... and depending on what you have now... you might have to spend a lot to convert it even to the sram hydraulic rim brake caliper... |
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QUOTE(butthead @ Oct 9 2013, 10:00 AM) F1 meh....we not racing lar... when have you see in interstate or century ride someone puncture and then suddenly 10 people gather around the bike to change the wheel in under 4 seconds??? no right... i was referring to the pro peloton la. disc brake caliper has very narrow opening compared to mechanical caliper. wide open.QUOTE(butthead @ Oct 9 2013, 10:00 AM) dafuqQUOTE(butthead @ Oct 9 2013, 10:00 AM) no harm trying |
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