Went bike pro today, was offered scott addict sl 2012/13 version for 4k +, since sl model is one of the top range model,is it consider a good bargain? Also saw a green color bianchi frame set, not sure which year model but look dam nice!!

Even for a 2 years old model?

Was told that the bianchi framset is 6k+, exceed my budget already, but the frame set keep popping out in my mind...

Ask my bro knock for me n sound same, no different with the fine part

Chinarello   
if wanna buy that, dont need 2.9k. can get around 2.3k

brand, price, performance...

you can only pick 2...

have you seen an 15k build on a swiftcarbon ultravox ti...

it's unbelievably numb nuts to do that... but, that is what has to be accepted as a better brand with no assurance that it will be any better will push the build in excess of 20k...

so, one has got to prioritize what they want...

without the wants, one would just be looking blindly at the vast availability of choices out there....

then he needs to travel to an alternate universe...

It's not out yet, but this looks to be the build from what i understand.

1) Swiftcarbon Ultravox Ti
2) SRAM Force 22 group, Red 22 crank and shifters
3) Fulcrum Racing Zero
4) Ritchey WCS C260 stem, WCS curve / pro-logic II bar, WCS 1-bolt seatpost
5) S-works toupe saddle (bought from sale)
6) Miscellaneous small and un-finalized stuff, powercordz swift / alligator i-link / jagwire elite link cables, Look keo 2 max / blade, swapped out carbon-ti / kcnc skewers, zero-stack 1 1/8" to 1 1/2" headset, rotor q-rings (still researching if it's compatible)

Looks like little, but makes up 15k believe it or not?

which is tortured on a daily basis....

Avanti corsa dr team? Saw rm5620...

i mean... a practically unknown bike costs rm15k on the build... imagine swapping item 1 with a spez, pina, trek.... it'll blow the 15k budget wide open...

Frameset

if you look at the comments at the bottom... you see what the people feels...
http://www.bikeradar.com/road/gear/categor...meset-13-47212/

he has written quite some articles including the original top of the line RS-1 back in 2012...
http://www.bikeradar.com/author/Jamie%20Wilkins/

so, whether it is hocus pocus or the fact... it's everyone's own decision... frankly... i'd have to say i can't feel any difference riding this and an SL4... if one can overlook the brand and the price point can go down further....it might be a stronger contender..

i can't help but admit that saying it's a chinese made is not going to help with the sales and people will think that it should be a cheap ass frame because it's chinese made irregardless of how it performs...

he had to strike a balance between the frame and the rest of the bike build as well... or it would have been an all out sram red build and possibly with a set of 303's for good measure which means edging closer to 20k with an unknown....