I never said i doubted you. I said that there is a chance that 2*2GB kits do have performance chips on them. So dont take it personally, because i am not. I am just questioning your deduction, and as a senior member with 5000+ post, you should have the experience and wisdom to be open to a forum discussion. This is what a forum is about.



We all know you have money. Ok this is the reality, yes youre good, you have tried almost every single thing in the market. I, on the other hand, have a medium rig which will last me a year or so. So finance wise, yes you win, but is this forum about taking challenges like this, or is this a knowledge forum? Where challenges are based upon testings and reviews. And not gambles of who will give QX9770.

Let me make this straight, i respect you. But in this past few days, you just lost it all, and you are just a another person with loads of money trying to prove a point.



No. i dont play DARES, its for kids and gamblers.



I read more than you do, the only problem is i dont have the money to test them for myself. Well if its not an assumptions, like i think it is, state your facts here and prove a point that your words aint an empty vessel. Give us facts. Since Vista is getting nasty with memory requirements, sooner or later, we are going to OC 2*2GB kits rather than 2*1GB kits and since youre the man with all the expertise, give us a brief run through of your test.



Does it look to you that i am assuming at all, I am asking you the question?Duh!



Yes i am reading about it, and i am definitely not arrogant like you are.



isnt that a better explanation? i am sure you can do better, shawty. Cut the arrogance, be humble.



you dont have to be sarcastic to put a point across, you are a 25 year old man, be professional about how you convey your ideas. The link i gave you is an example of an OC done with 2*2gb kit. That is my point. It can be done. Dont hide the details, you are now selling 2*2gb kits, if you are trying to tell ppl that they dont OC well, whats the point of telling ppl your OC results then. Arent you contradicting your ownself?

This is again the link i gave for Shawty to see that 2*2GB kits can be overclocked too and to contradict the statement he made that 2*2GB kits dont have a PowerChip chipsets on them. PowerChip is an example of a chip that can be overclocked.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=163668

in reply to this statement he made.


And this is the link that shawty has posted for his sales and OC results on this rams, 2*2GB kits. Look for yourself. This is to prove that 2*2gb kits can be OC-ed too.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=597115&hl=shawty

This is my 2 cents worth. No hard feelings but you forced me to be this way, shawty. Like i said, i am no expert like you are. I only write what i have tested and done. Nothing more.

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@sky
NO worries man, we are like this, but at ends we still are good friends.

@shawty
Aite bro, Enough said as well. Lets help others then kill each other. Peace bro.

terms can be learnt in the pinned up topics bro.. dont be sad. And as you get along with this via practise, you will get better in it.

bro shawty, this cpuz how do you modify that timing tables to show the latest ones? and 1T and 2T, whats the difference? i see ppl talking about it, but i am not clear with it.. how does it affect OC?

hmm bro, IP35E now an change the T settings yay There is an option now to change that.

@sniper

Damn... intel.. i dont dare try it though, lol. Maybe i should see whether it works... hmm then ill post a screenie if it does.. otherwise its nvidias advantage then

@shawty and kmarc
Damn, no guys no difference, i wonder why does intel even put that option there (1T and 2T). But i did see a tad slowness but must be the slow clocks i have employed.. damn 3.4Ghz is sooo fast lol

@shawty

if only i had a nvidia board...... how much time diff is there between the 1T and 2T bro?

well everest might be in accurate. coz normally the BIOS voltage is the true measure.

to find out,
you can go to www.crucial.com

in that website there is a memory diagnostic on what memory your system runs on

if your laptop supports dual channel, then u run 2*1GB, u will have a little performance gain. But if your laptop doesnt, then go for the single 2GB instead. To find out about whether its dual channel or not, you can download cpu-z to find out. I am not too sure about crucial.com whether they do tell u that.

@rhlc
the godlike ocer himself hehe. Well more and more 2*2GB kits can oc these days ah.. hehe, teach me how to OC, master!

@darkside

How did this end up as your post?wen its mine?

@clawy ko ko
i give up on hynix kvr now. focus on elpidas or promos. Hynix OC revisions are history.

well that u have to ask kingston la. 2.2V is not bad yet. anything higher than that u r probably asking for trouble what chips is there on the kingston.

@kmarc
you really should go do consultancy la. U should make books la. Since u have knowledge and also a lot of time.

on value rams i believe u can do ddr2 800 at 2.0-2.1V, hope that helps/ hanging can also be caused by not enough Vcore.

i mean u can OC it to ddr2 800 by adding Vdimm in BIOS to 2.0V. The difference ah, the bandwidth and the speed lor. And a ddr2 800 ram without having to pay more.

1.8V to 2.0V is alright bro, coz u have enough air flow inside your casing to flush the warm chips. The danger zone is when u play with 2.2V and above. Well when i OC, i play with 2.4V and high high speeds.

most value rams, i think all are defaulted at 1.80V.

well u can do 1:1 on fsb:dram ratio, if u check your bios u will know what i mean. Thats good if u can run ddr2 800 on stock Vdimm, now try tightening the timings. to cl4. See whether 1.80V is enough to stabilize the rams.

For stability, try memtest instead, u can download it on google. Just search it. If you are running two cores, then run two of it set at 1/4 the total size of ram u have for each memtest program. Normally SuperPi 32m is a good indicator of stability, just run it once, then move on to OCCT for 1 hour, at high priority, once the two pass, do your memtest for 3 hours, at settings i stated earlier.