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Honours

Premiership (13): 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2013
Division One Champions (7): 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965, 1967
Division Two Champions (2): 1936, 1975

European Cup/UEFA Champions League (3): 1968, 1999, 2008
European Cup-Winners' Cup (1): 1991
European Super Cup (1): 1991

FA Charity/Community Shield (19 (15 outright, 4 shared)): 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965*, 1967*, 1977*, 1983, 1990*, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011 (* = joint holders)
FA Cup Winners (11): 1909, 1948, 1963, 1977, 1983, 1985, 1990, 1994, 1996, 1999, 2004
League Cup Winners (4): 1992, 2006, 2009, 2010

Toyota Inter-continental Cup Winners (1): 1999
FIFA Club World Cup (1): 2008

Managers

A. H. Albut [1892 - 1900]
James West [1900 - September 1903]
Ernest Magnall [10 October 1903 - 9 September 1912]
T. J. Wallworth [9 September 1912 - 20 October 1912]
John Bentley [28 October 1912 - 28 December 1914]
John Robson [28 December 1914 - 31 October 1921]
John Chapman [31 October 1921 - 8 October 1926]
Clarence Hildrith [8 October 1926 - 13 April 1927]
Herbert Bamlett [13 April 1927 - 9 November 1931]
Walter Crickmer [9 November 1931 - 13 July 1932]
Scott Duncan [13 July 1932 - 7 November 1937]
Walter Crickmer [9 November 1937 - 15 February 1945]
Matt Busby [1 October 1945 - 11 June 1969]
Jimmy Murphy [February 1958 - June 1958]
Wilf McGuinness [11 June 1969 - 29 December 1970]
Matt Busby [29 December 1970 - 8 June 1971]
Frank O'Farrell [8 June 1971 - 19 December 1972]
Tommy Docherty [22 December 1972 - 4 July 1977]
Dave Sexton [14 July 1977 - 29 April 1981]
Ron Atkinson [9 June 1981 - 6 November 1986]
Sir Alex Ferguson [6 November 1986 - 30 June 2013]
David Moyes [01 July 2013 - Present]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Manch..._and_statistics

Record Home Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record Home Defeat: 1-7 v Newcastle United, 10/09/1927 [Division 1]

Record Away Win: 8-1 v Nottingham Forest, 06/02/1999
Record Away Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record League Win: 10-1 v Wolves, 15/10/1892 (Division 1)
Record League Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record Premier League Win: 9-0 v Ipswich Town, 04/03/1995
Record Premier League Defeat: 0-5 v Newcastle United, 20/10/1996 | 0-5 v Chelsea, 03/10/1999 | 1–6 v Manchester City, 23 October 2011

Record FA Cup Win: 8-0 v Yeovil Town, 12/02/1949
Record FA Cup Defeat: 1-7 v Burnley, 13/02/1901 [1st Round]

Record European Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record European Defeat: 0-5 v Sporting, 18/03/1964 [Cup Winners' Cup QF]

Record Champions League Win: 7-1 v Roma, 10/04/2007 [UCL QF, 2nd leg]

Record Home Attendance (At Old Trafford): 76,098 31/3/2007 Premier League (Man Utd vs Blackburn) (83,260 for United v Arsenal at Maine Road in 1948)

Record League Appearances: 659 (110) Ryan Giggs 1990 - Present (as of 06 May 2013) [940 (152) overall]

Record League Goalscorer: 199 [in 606 league appearances] Sir Bobby Charlton 1956/73

Record Transfer Fee Received: 80,000,000 pounds for Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid (July 2009)

Record Transfer Fee Paid: 30,750,000 pounds for Dimitar Berbatov from Tottenham (August 2008)


As the world's biggest and richest club, Manchester United reach a global fanbase.

Part of the attraction for fans around the world has been the football luminaries, such as George Best and Sir Bobby Charlton, who have graced the Old Trafford turf in a Manchester United shirt over the years.

Recently, Manchester United have continued to attract or develop some of the game's biggest names, with England stalwarts such as Paul Scholes and David Beckham having been regular fixtures in the Reds line-up.

The Manchester United team, past and present, reads like a who's who of world football.

It is only fitting that a great team should grace a great stadium. And with Old Trafford's recent development and the closure of Wembley, the ground is easily the largest in English football, holding in excess of 60,000 fans.

Despite this capacity, the demand to see United in action is so great that tickets are hard to come by.

But it isn't only Manchester United fans who flock to Old Trafford. The standard of the ground is such that it regularly hosts high-profile games, most notably, the Champions League Final and Great Britain rugby league games.

Rock fans have also made use of the Reds's facilities, watching a number of high-profile acts at the ground.

But it's football that will forever be synonymous with the Reds famous ground - and with good reason.

The last decade has seen Manchester United under the shrewd leadership of Sir Alex Ferguson maintain a virtual stranglehold on the Premiership crown.

Manchester United has won the league no fewer than 18 times in their history. They are also Cup Kings too, winning the FA cup 11 times, the league cup 4 times, as well as winning the European Super Cup, European Cup Winner's Cup, and 3 times being crowned European Cup champions.

Manchester United has long become a name associated with success both on and off the pitch.

As club profits continue to grow, Manchester United have become one of the richest sports clubs on the planet.

With supporters club branches on every continent, it's hard to go any where in the world and not see somebody wearing the famous red shirt of Manchester United.

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Nickname: The Red Devils

Ground: Old Trafford

Pitch Size: 116 x 76 yards (106.0704 x 69.4944 meter)

Capacity: 76,000

Address: Sir Matt Busby Way, Old Trafford, Manchester

Postcode: M160RA

Directions: From North: Leave the M60 at junction 12 for M602 (Salford / Manchester). At the end of M602 (Jtn 3) follow the signs for Salford Quays and Trafford Park. At the roundabout turn right into Trafford Road (A5063), then at the bridge over Manchester Ship canal, keep in the right hand lane and turn right. Next, follow this road round to Trafford Wharf Road, and then left onto Watersreach. Continue through the traffic lights onto Sir Matt Busby Way.

From South: Leave M6 at junction 19, then take the A56 towards Manchester Airport. Join the M56 to Manchester, going past the Airport and then follow the signs for the M60 (Leeds / Liverpool). Leave M60 at Jtn 7 (A56 Chester Road) following signs for Manchester United Football Club. Turn left into Sir Matt Busby Way.

Ticket prices: 25 pounds upwards, concessions from 12.50 pounds. Tickets for the home sections are usually only available to members of the club and are normally allocated by ballot.

Contact information: Ticket Office: 0161 868 8020
Main Telephone: 0161 868 8000

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QUOTE(zenix @ Nov 24 2009, 09:18 PM)
Hope Alien will sticky this info later.
Though written in 2006 so no Roy Keane yet.

Ex-United players that have moved on to become managers.

Written by Simon Stone (MARCH 22, 2006)

STEVE BRUCE (1987-1996): Took his first steps in management with Sheffield United in 1998, then swiftly moved on to Huddersfield, Wigan and Crystal Palace. Left Selhurst Park in acrimonious fashion after Birmingham targeted him as the replacement for Trevor Francis in 1991. Took Blues into the Premier League but after a heavy FA Cup defeat is struggling to keep his job.

MARTIN POWELL (1971-1983): Stylish and well-respected Scotland centre-half whose authoritative nature appeared to make him a natural for the management game. Lasted four months at Burnley.

SIR BOBBY CHARLTON (1956-1973): Arguably the finest English player of all time proved to be an unmitigated disaster as a manager. Claimed he was not given the resources to make a decent job of it at Preston but was never lured back into management following his departure after a single season.

STEVE COPPELL (1975-1983): After a knee injury cut his playing career short at just 28, Coppell turned his attention to management. Steered Crystal Palace into the FA Cup final and then third place in the old First Division - the Eagles' highest ever - the following season. It was the first of four stints in charge at Selhurst Park in a career which has seen him move to Manchester City (for only six games), Brentford and Brighton. Now at Reading and about to steer the Royals into the top flight for the first time.

PADDY CRERAND (1962-1971): A key figure in United's 1968 European Cup triumph, Crerand lasted five months at Northampton before getting the bullet and, like Charlton, never managed again.

MARK HUGHES (1983-86, 1988-95): Hughes was never tipped as a manager by Ferguson but has taken to the game with ease. Took Wales into the Euro 2004 play-offs. Took over at Blackburn shortly afterwards, steering Rovers away from danger in his first season. Currently in contention for a Champions League spot.

BRIAN KIDD (1967-1974): Another European Cup winner who proved to be a poor manager. Got itchy feet in 1998 after spending seven years as Sir Alex Ferguson's highly-rated assistant. Took command at Blackburn but dismissed six months later.

BRYAN ROBSON (1981-94): United's inspirational leader under Ron Atkinson and Ferguson. There are two schools of thought on his stint at Middlesbrough - he either spent lots and achieved little (relegation and two losing finals) or he laid the platform for the Teessiders to become an established Premiership outfit. Kept West Brom up in extraordinary fashion last year but back in trouble again this season.

GORDON STRACHAN (1984-89): Scotland international who won the FA Cup with United and the title of the pre-Premiership era with Leeds. Sacked after five years at when the Sky Blues lost top-flight status, then enjoyed success at Southampton - reaching the 2003 Cup final - before resigning to spend more time with his family. Now at Celtic, has recovered from a humiliating Champions League exit to Artmedia Bratislava, and, after winning his first trophy on Sunday in the CIS Insurance Cup, is set to clinch the Scottish Premier League.

NOBBY STILES (1960-71): Along with Charlton, one of only two Englishmen to have won the World Cup and European Cup, he replaced his former England and United team-mate at Preston, with limited success. After a brief stint in Vancouver, returned to England to take over as manager of West Brom. Sacked after five months, having gained just three wins.
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Manchester United 2013-2014 Squad List [Squad number - Player Name] * Last update: 16/08/2013 *

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1. De Gea (GK); 2. Rafael; 3. Evra; 4. Jones; 5. Ferdinand; 6. Evans; 8. Anderson; 10. Rooney; 11. Giggs; 12. Smalling; 13. Lindegaard (GK); 14. Chicharito; 15. Vidic; 16. Carrick; 17. Nani; 18. Young; 19. Welbeck; 20. v. Persie; 21. Henríquez; 22. Fabio; 23. Cleverley; 24. Fletcher; 25. Valencia; 26. Kagawa; 27. Macheda; 28.Büttner; 29. Zaha; 30. Varela; 31. Wootton; 32. Powell; 33. Bébé; 34. Cole; 35. Lingard; 36. Vermijl; 38. M.Keane; 39. Thorpe; 40. Amos (GK); 42. Blackett; 44. Januzaj; 45. Petrucci; 48. W.Keane; 50. Johnstone (GK).


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Reon's Signatures Collections

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post Oct 7 2013, 07:49 PM

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post Oct 7 2013, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(gr8fr8 @ Oct 7 2013, 07:19 PM)
Well Morrison I think has personal problems, probably with him being in Manchester that is. Now that he is away and become focused, you could see the talent

that have been mentioned numerous times. Pogba, on the other hand  rolleyes.gif

Well, United always move on whenever player leaves the club. Just hope the current youngsters will progress and become the next United stars. Plus local lads

will always wanting to play for United more than foreigners like Pogba. Lingard, Cole, Welbeck. Hopefully they will get their chance and become good.
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welbeck and cleverley those fella yeah they wanted to play for united but has been given so many chances and yet i don't see anything special from them...I don't see them improving..

pogba and morrison's those 2 are rare world class talent.. compare to cleverley and welbeck... No chance at all..

If they been given the chance perhaps they will be more happy and decided to stay? At least you can't say you didnt give them chances... the problem is these talents are not given the chance at all..

Morrison's case I understand... but i still feel gutted for pogba though..

now we are here fearing adnan januzaj leaving..

we still need a world class midfielder.. perhaps if we give pogba a chance we wouldn't need to spend so much for a midfielder... now juventus untung.. When real madrid city arsenal come to get him he could have been sold for at least

30mil..

One thing I would like to see from moyes is to resign them...after all they were trained by the academy they should know united well enough..

=.= have to copy paste from previous tread
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QUOTE(budakhijau @ Oct 7 2013, 07:36 PM)
Wow...u really know him that close?i will beware of u coz u might know me that well oso.how about zenix or sinoffire?r they ultimate fanboi as well...
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I don't know if I should take this as a compliment or just another retarded comment from that thing. Funny thing is, I don't even listen/watch anything that I don't understand let alone K-Pop. Seems like he knows me better than myself. Really mysterious la this thing. hmm.gif

Bro, ultimatefanboi cannot beat 'TRUE SUPPORTERS' lah. zenix, sino, sifha, digitalz, African and you don't fit into that category as 'supporters' where they have the rights to bash the manager, owner , staff, janitor, gardener, ball-boys and players because they are true supporters. Regardless of what the outcome, the bashing remains, mostly pointless and baseless bashing because these true supporters are so true that they are smarter than anyone working in the club therefore deserves the right to be pointless critics that blows an empty vessel. I would suggest that he should make a date with Malcom Glazer himself and volunteer himself as the manager of Manchester United Football Club because he is smarter than everyone else at the moment. Moyes sucks, he needs to be kicked. #MoyesOut #SupportersIn
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afroman out for 2mths?!?! ffffffffuuuuuuuuuuu
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afroman out for 2mths?!?! ffffffffuuuuuuuuuuu
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Whaaat? 2 months? For wrist injury?
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Oct 7 2013, 08:01 PM)
I don't know if I should take this as a compliment or just another retarded comment from that thing. Funny thing is, I don't even listen/watch anything that I don't understand let alone K-Pop. Seems like he knows me better than myself. Really mysterious la this thing. hmm.gif

Bro, ultimatefanboi cannot beat 'TRUE SUPPORTERS' lah. zenix, sino, sifha, digitalz, African and you don't fit into that category as 'supporters' where they have the rights to bash the manager, owner , staff, janitor, gardener, ball-boys and players because they are true supporters. Regardless of what the outcome, the bashing remains, mostly pointless and baseless bashing because these true supporters are so true that they are smarter than anyone working in the club therefore deserves the right to be pointless critics that blows an empty vessel. I would suggest that he should make a date with Malcom Glazer himself and volunteer himself as the manager of Manchester United Football Club because he is smarter than everyone else at the moment. Moyes sucks, he needs to be kicked. #MoyesOut #SupportersIn
laugh.gif is it referring to SGUSER?

KPOP oso overrated. laugh.gif
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2 months...ok la...more of jones at cm pls

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QUOTE(roytomas8998 @ Oct 7 2013, 08:30 PM)
laugh.gif is it referring to SGUSER?

KPOP oso overrated.  laugh.gif
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definitely not me shakehead.gif

im lalang
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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Oct 7 2013, 08:31 PM)
2 months...ok la...more of jones at cm pls

jk
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Congrats on the new thread.. btw Jones in midfield
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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Oct 7 2013, 09:31 PM)
definitely not me  shakehead.gif

im lalang
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That my extended title...dont take it away...i got it special from natzakaria...im the "retard lalang"...n im proud of it....hehe...u guys ade kew?sinoffire jgn jeles tau...
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Congrats on the new thread.. btw Jones in midfield
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Well, I got no problem with him playing there. As DM maybe. to cover the CBs
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Jones as DM ok la, not as MF.

Who is this African ah? I always thought its Welbeck.
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QUOTE(budakhijau @ Oct 7 2013, 08:39 PM)
That my extended title...dont take it away...i got it special from natzakaria...im the "retard lalang"...n im proud of it....hehe...u guys ade kew?sinoffire jgn jeles tau...
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its ok don worry, im just a lalang, u can take retard lalang title laugh.gif

we lalangs can nvr reach the level of those hardcores/ultras/tryhards/fanboys who only have the club's bestest interest in their heart, see anything no rike bash tahap maximum no nid legit reason oso, and hor manyak active especially during defeats/draws, because oni they know best...dis semangat i jelly max

i just go wif the flow man, if u get wat i mean....meh its not like the league oni got 1 team, got 19 more wat

i already secretly supporting liverpool and arsenal..YNWA! COYG!
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Oct 7 2013, 08:29 PM)
why no welkam me 1...
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You bend first then we welkam you brows.gif

QUOTE(roytomas8998 @ Oct 7 2013, 08:30 PM)
laugh.gif is it referring to SGUSER?

KPOP oso overrated.  laugh.gif
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No la, to that Pokemon holier than thou true supporter.

QUOTE(SGSuser @ Oct 7 2013, 08:54 PM)
its ok don worry, im just a lalang, u can take retard lalang title laugh.gif

we lalangs can nvr reach the level of those hardcores/ultras/tryhards/fanboys who only have the club's bestest interest in their heart, see anything no rike bash tahap maximum no nid legit reason oso, and hor manyak active especially during defeats/draws, because oni they know best...dis semangat i jelly max

i just go wif the flow man, if u get wat i mean....meh its not like the league oni got 1 team, got 19 more wat

i already secretly supporting liverpool and arsenal..YNWA! COYG!
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city? not top also...wait till top 1st la then i fully acknowledge manchester is blue
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Oct 7 2013, 08:58 PM)
You bend first then we welkam you  brows.gif
No la, to that Pokemon holier than thou true supporter.
Not CTID?  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Oct 7 2013, 09:00 PM)
city? not top also...wait till top 1st la then i fully acknowledge manchester is blue
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eh, not when they have 20? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Oct 7 2013, 09:31 PM)
other than benji, I always introduce kang tao to you guys in the whatsapp group leh! no welkam me no good la...
eh, not when they have 20?  tongue.gif
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Ok I feel bad now. Come, I welkam you rclxm9.gif

Anyway,

Fellaini backlash: United fans turn on £27m signing as he faces seven weeks on the sidelines with wrist injury
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Manchester United midfielder Marouane Fellani could face surgery to solve a wrist injury and could be out until December.
The £27.5million summer signing missed Saturday's 2-1 Barclays Premier League victory over Sunderland and visited a specialist in Manchester before being assessed by medics in Belgium.
He will miss his national side's forthcoming World Cup qualifiers against Croatia and Wales, and up to two months of United matches in the league, Capital One Cup and Champions League.
But when the official Manchester United Facebook page posted the news, the reaction was hardly supportive for the Belgian.
The post read: 'On Saturday, news emerged of an injury to Marouane Fellaini that could keep the striker out for at least a few weeks... Join us in wishing Fellaini a swift recovery...'
However, some of the comments left underneath the post were far from positive and it didn't all relate to him erroneously being called a striker.
One said it was 'good news', one was 'actually happy he is out' and another said it was the 'best thing that could of [sic] happened.'
Others went further, with one calling him the 'worst signing in all of Europe this summer' and another opining that 'we look better without him.'


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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...st-surgery.html

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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Oct 7 2013, 10:19 PM)
Ok I feel bad now. Come, I welkam you  rclxm9.gif

Anyway,

Fellaini backlash: United fans turn on £27m signing as he faces seven weeks on the sidelines with wrist injury
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...st-surgery.html

I think I know who I saw in the screenshots  brows.gif
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Oct 7 2013, 10:19 PM)
Ok I feel bad now. Come, I welkam you  rclxm9.gif

Anyway,

Fellaini backlash: United fans turn on £27m signing as he faces seven weeks on the sidelines with wrist injury
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...st-surgery.html

I think I know who I saw in the screenshots  brows.gif
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Haha really funny man! Well we cant blame them for the comments

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The moderating team have been monitoring your posts and looks like you like to start baiting people here into trolling / flame baiting.

I will not repeat this verbal warning again.

Stop or when the next report comes in on your trolling, stern action will be taken.
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Fanboys has one track opinion or lack off and will blindly follow as they are merely fans similar to those who are fans of KPOP and Biebers.

Alternate opinions are not welcomed and labelled as lalangs.
United supporters are expressive and will bash if something is ill and even from the non verbal expressions of the players they seem clueless to the non United way of Moyes.

I trust this clarifies my stand and hope that the moderators are not fanboys but supporters
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Oct 7 2013, 10:19 PM)
Ok I feel bad now. Come, I welkam you  rclxm9.gif

Anyway,

Fellaini backlash: United fans turn on £27m signing as he faces seven weeks on the sidelines with wrist injury
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...st-surgery.html

I think I know who I saw in the screenshots  brows.gif
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While this is NOT trolling?
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i wonder....lets say MU really sack DM (though i still support him)...who will they hire? who is a better candidate than DM?
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i wonder....lets say MU really sack DM (though i still support him)...who will they hire? who is a better candidate than DM?
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How about hire that great manager who just retired from his club.

SAF? LOL

Well, joke aside, I still hope OGS will be managing MU one day, just not now. Need to gain more exp first.

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Inb4, why does my previous post got deleted? No troll whatsoever. doh.gif

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QUOTE(daydreaming @ Oct 8 2013, 12:29 AM)
i wonder....lets say MU really sack DM (though i still support him)...who will they hire? who is a better candidate than DM?
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The "right one"...or if u prefer the "left one"...ahaha...juz kidding...our tradition prefer british manager that atm is declining...i wud prefer we stay that way to promote british manager n player in an english team...its the club identity...but maybe some wud argue...i think we wud search within man utd n britain who understand the club history n philosphy...not many available...but i wud luv steve clarke type of coaching method...maybe more younger hands on coach like paul lambert or houghton...i dunno who is capable...but moyes is for now n the future...i hav faith he gonna be a hit n success...its chosen by saf...he sure know what he is doing...time n time again he will prove it...he done it for 26 years...he will know more or less what moyes gonna bring...
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There's no point of talking about sacking Moyes.

To be fair it's pretty embarrassing that some of our fans are calling his head now.

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QUOTE(daydreaming @ Oct 8 2013, 12:29 AM)
i wonder....lets say MU really sack DM (though i still support him)...who will they hire? who is a better candidate than DM?
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The "right one"...or if u prefer the "left one"...ahaha...juz kidding...our tradition prefer british manager that atm is declining...i wud prefer we stay that way to promote british manager n player in an english team...its the club identity...but maybe some wud argue...i think we wud search within man utd n britain who understand the club history n philosphy...not many available...but i wud luv steve clarke type of coaching method...maybe more younger hands on coach like paul lambert or houghton...i dunno who is capable...but moyes is for now n the future...i hav faith he gonna be a hit n success...its chosen by saf...he sure know what he is doing...time n time again he will prove it...he done it for 26 years...he will know more or less what moyes gonna bring...
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QUOTE(budakhijau @ Oct 8 2013, 12:26 AM)
The "right one"...or if u prefer the "left one"...ahaha...juz kidding...our tradition prefer british manager that atm is declining...i wud prefer we stay that way to promote british manager n player in an english team...its the club identity...but maybe some wud argue...i think we wud search within man utd n britain who understand the club history n philosphy...not many available...but i wud luv steve clarke type of coaching method...maybe more younger hands on coach like paul lambert or houghton...i dunno who is capable...but moyes is for now n the future...i hav faith he gonna be a hit n success...its chosen by saf...he sure know what he is doing...time n time again he will prove it...he done it for 26 years...he will know more or less what moyes gonna bring...
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Yup. We are traditionally British all the way. I used to dream that one day, Mark Hughes will take over from the gaffer, back when he was with Blackburn Rovers. That time, Blackburn are such tough nut to crack, mentally and physically tough team to play. But idk why he chose to manage Man City, which after his managerial career slide downwards after that. Sad.
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Yup. We are traditionally British all the way. I used to dream that one day, Mark Hughes will take over from the gaffer, back when he was with Blackburn Rovers. That time, Blackburn are such tough nut to crack, mentally and physically tough team to play. But idk why he chose to manage Man City, which after his managerial career slide downwards after that. Sad.
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same here. i thought mark hughes or even steve bruce, was pretty good at one point in time. lets hope Ole will do well smile.gif somehow i prefer him than giggsy. hahaa.

but yes, i do support DM and i think he will do wel in the long run.
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QUOTE(daydreaming @ Oct 8 2013, 02:52 AM)
same here. i thought mark hughes or even steve bruce, was pretty good at one point in time. lets hope Ole will do well smile.gif somehow i prefer him than giggsy. hahaa.

but yes, i do support DM and i think he will do wel in the long run.
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Fergie has praised the quality of Ole coming of the bench because he observes, watch and study the game closely. It is no fluke that he won the Norwegian League at the first time asking. Molde had a bad start to the season which only means better experience for him. Ole can only get better rclxms.gif

Btw anyone think that its a good idea to have an official understudy to the manager that will take over once the manager leaves ie Carlo Quieroz before he left for RM. Ole should join Moyes soon over the next few years!
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Fergie has praised the quality of Ole coming of the bench because he observes, watch and study the game closely. It is no fluke that he won the Norwegian League at the first time asking. Molde had a bad start to the season which only means better experience for him. Ole can only get better  rclxms.gif

Btw anyone think that its a good idea to have an official understudy to the manager that will take over once the manager leaves ie Carlo Quieroz before he left for RM. Ole should join Moyes soon over the next few years!
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unker giggs boleh? hmm.gif

in other news....

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Adnan Januzaj turns down Belgium call

Belgium face an anxious wait over Adnan Januzaj’s international future, but Football Association director of football development Sir Trevor Brooking has suggested the England national team could learn from Belgium’s success in recruiting players.

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Not only recruiting for players but also many other things need to change.
Even with a bigger league (multiple professional, semi-pro, and amateur leagues) yet it seems like they're just filling these clubs with rubbish or too many foreigners.

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Adnan Januzaj set for huge new deal

Manchester United are ready to offer teenage sensation Adnan Januzaj a new contract worth around £60,000-a-week, according to widespread reports on Monday, as the club prepare to register him for the Champions League.

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Why people bashing Fellaini? His role is different in his time at Everton which is either a second striker or a defensive midfielder according to the game plan.

At United he is a used as a defensive midfielder. A position he preferred. A position which most people would see him doing nothing at all. Just ask Makalele.
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QUOTE(damnself @ Oct 8 2013, 09:33 AM)
Why people bashing Fellaini? His role is different in his time at Everton which is either a second striker or a defensive midfielder according to the game plan.

At United he is a used as a defensive midfielder. A position he preferred.  A position which most people would see him doing nothing at all. Just ask Makalele.
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its not easy to be a 'visible' def mid unless u r a box to box runner like Keano. biggrin.gif

MU fans seem to be complaining bout every single thing from DM to the backroom staff to the new signing who only played few games. tongue.gif

wonder why the fans are not giving DM credits for playing Januzaj? i seriously doubt he'll get a chance under SAF
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QUOTE(daydreaming @ Oct 8 2013, 09:37 AM)
its not easy to be a 'visible' def mid unless u r a box to box runner like Keano. biggrin.gif

MU fans seem to be complaining bout every single thing from DM to the backroom staff to the new signing who only played few games. tongue.gif

wonder why the fans are not giving DM credits for playing Januzaj? i seriously doubt he'll get a chance under SAF
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Well, SAF give him his first chance. I think game under his name are more of a way to persuade him to sign new contract more than to play him because wanna play him.
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It's like them complaining about how 'useless' Carrick is, which they don't appreciate his 'technicality' in the middle. Or even worse, claiming that Fletcher was the reason why we failed to win the title bla bla bla. You get the drill

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QUOTE(ayonan @ Oct 8 2013, 09:56 AM)
Well, SAF give him his first chance. I think game under his name are more of a way to persuade him to sign new contract more than to play him because wanna play him.
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early on maybe but januzaj did impress from pre season and then giving few run coming from sub also impressive..

after few run from sub clearly adnan show he deserve a start. and now after his amazing first start he hv shown he deserve to play more and getting some value in his contract

and the reason also coz our senior winger hvnt performing well either
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QUOTE(onepack @ Oct 8 2013, 10:21 AM)
early on maybe but januzaj did impress from pre season and then giving few run coming from sub also impressive..

after few run from sub clearly adnan show he deserve a start. and now after his amazing first start he hv shown he deserve to play more and getting some value in his contract

and the reason also coz our senior winger hvnt performing well either
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Yeah, clearly can see that. Just statement that SAF won't give a chance to youngster are rubbish. That is my point. Moyes put Janu in 1st 11, because hes good, but let not lie to ourselves. Everyone fear something similar to Pogba will happen again. So, give Janu his game time.
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i just know that belgium national team also has nickname "red devil"
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Manchester United and Belgium's Marouane Fellaini is fit to face Croatia on Friday despite ongoing concerns with a wrist injury.

The United midfielder missed Saturday's 2-1 win over Sunderland after suffering the wrist problem in training and it had been feared he would be ruled out of action for three weeks.

United boss David Moyes said over the weekend: "He's got a wrist injury. He's going to see a specialist. It doesn't sound too good but we'll wait and find out on Monday."

Although the medical diagnosis is that he will need surgery in the "near future", it is a welcome boost in the short term for his international club and United.

Belgium have impressed so far in their quest to qualify for the 2014 World Cup, having won seven and drawn one of their opening eight games and are top of group A.

It was not all good news for the Belgians, though, after suffering an injury blow with Manchester City centre-half Vincent Kompany declared unfit with a thigh problem.


http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11...-despite-injury
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"A win like this can turn things around. I think us, as players, know we haven't been good enough. A new manager has come in and we haven't been good enough for him.

"Obviously the manager is under a bit of pressure but we know, as a team, it's us who have let him down. We have to pull together for the manager and show the sort of fight we have done here and we'll be fine. This will be a transition season because it’s a new manager with different styles and we have to adapt to them. More importantly, we need to do better for him than we have been."

-wayne rooney-

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features...r.aspx?pageNo=1

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QUOTE(skystrike @ Oct 8 2013, 11:37 AM)
i just know that belgium national team also has nickname "red devil"
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did u know FC Kaiserslautern also know as the "red devil" in german...

Sports clubs[edit]

Belarus national football team
Belgium national football team
Manchester United F.C., English football club
Al-Ahly Sports Club, Egyptian football club
1. FC Kaiserslautern, German football club
Club Atlético Independiente, Argentine football club
Club Toluca, Mexican football club
Congo national football team
Grazer AK, Austrian football club
Hapoel Tel Aviv F.C., Israeli football club
South Korea national football team
Crawley Town F.C., English football club
Montpellier Red Devils, a French rugby league club
FC Rouen, a French football club
Nkana F.C., Zambian football club
Red Devil Sport Club, a Russian based MMA training team/association
Red Devil (supporters club), the official supporting group of the Korean Republic national football team
Salford City Reds, English rugby league club
Corporación Deportiva América, Colombian football club
Bulancakspor, Turkish football club
C.D. Diablos Rojos, a Peruvian football team
Canterbury Red Devils, a New Zealand ice hockey team

sos wiki...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Devil
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QUOTE(budakhijau @ Oct 8 2013, 10:50 AM)
"A win like this can turn things around. I think us, as players, know we haven't been good enough. A new manager has come in and we haven't been good enough for him.

"Obviously the manager is under a bit of pressure but we know, as a team, it's us who have let him down. We have to pull together for the manager and show the sort of fight we have done here and we'll be fine. This will be a transition season because it’s a new manager with different styles and we have to adapt to them. More importantly, we need to do better for him than we have been."

-wayne rooney-

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QUOTE(damnself @ Oct 8 2013, 09:33 AM)
Why people bashing Fellaini? His role is different in his time at Everton which is either a second striker or a defensive midfielder according to the game plan.

At United he is a used as a defensive midfielder. A position he preferred.  A position which most people would see him doing nothing at all. Just ask Makalele.
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huh... how can you compare him to makalele? Makalele is way above him...
the truth is Fellaini form has dropped and he didn't adapt well to the team... is not first class
you see Ozil he went to the team without pre season and do well and this is first class act...
i hope Fellaini can pick up his form and improve and do something like keano or ballack... in Man Utd midfield...
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QUOTE(budakhijau @ Oct 8 2013, 10:50 AM)
"A win like this can turn things around. I think us, as players, know we haven't been good enough. A new manager has come in and we haven't been good enough for him.

"Obviously the manager is under a bit of pressure but we know, as a team, it's us who have let him down. We have to pull together for the manager and show the sort of fight we have done here and we'll be fine. This will be a transition season because it’s a new manager with different styles and we have to adapt to them. More importantly, we need to do better for him than we have been."

-wayne rooney-

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features...r.aspx?pageNo=1
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Well said..
The team is the almost same as last season.. the only major change is the backroom staffs..
so there will new tactics, new training method and so on... the players need to adapt...
but the training for defender seem not going well...esp Rio

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QUOTE(nakedtruth @ Oct 8 2013, 11:20 AM)
huh... how can you compare him to makalele? Makalele is way above him...
the truth is Fellaini form has dropped and he didn't adapt well to the team... is not first class
you see Ozil he went to the team without pre season and do well and this is first class act...
i hope Fellaini can pick up his form and improve and do something like keano or ballack... in Man Utd midfield...
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QUOTE(ayonan @ Oct 8 2013, 10:29 AM)
Yeah, clearly can see that. Just statement that SAF won't give a chance to youngster are rubbish. That is my point. Moyes put Janu in 1st 11, because hes good, but let not lie to ourselves. Everyone fear something similar to Pogba will happen again. So, give Janu his game time.
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SAF did give a chance to youngsters, but only in league cup. smile.gif kids below 20 hardly get the chance to play in premier league matches. either that, or we din have any promising youngsters during SAF time aside from ronaldo, rooney (which were not from our youth team), the class of 92, macheda (few matches?) and welbeck. Lingard, Pogba, Michael Keane, etc, they din get any chance in the premier league matches. Instead players like Giggs, Scholes and Rio were relied on.

that is why Pogba left. and DM is trying hard not to repeat that.

QUOTE(onepack @ Oct 8 2013, 11:36 AM)
so comparing him wt ozil? haha so funny la you..
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its like comparing RVP and Fellaini leh
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so comparing him wt ozil? haha so funny la you..
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He is comparing on a bigger picture while one adapts well/immediately the other is on sick leave
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the number of impatient fans already flaming DM & Fellaini on the internet is quite staggering @_@


Feel for Fellaini, getting injured so soon after his move.

Considering it took Evra and Vidic around half a season after their transfers to get into the swing of things and really start performing, and Carrick took years of stick before being lauded.. Afroman is gonna have a rough road ahead.
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QUOTE(daydreaming @ Oct 8 2013, 11:41 AM)
SAF did give a chance to youngsters, but only in league cup. smile.gif kids below 20 hardly get the chance to play in premier league matches. either that, or we din have any promising youngsters during SAF time aside from ronaldo, rooney (which were not from our youth team), the class of 92, macheda (few matches?) and welbeck. Lingard, Pogba, Michael Keane, etc, they din get any chance in the premier league matches. Instead players like Giggs, Scholes and Rio were relied on.

that is why Pogba left. and DM is trying hard not to repeat that.
its like comparing RVP and Fellaini leh
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SAF has given a lot of chances to a lot of young players over the years.

Random thought is, maybe he didn't give Pogba a quicker run because :

1) He wanted to ease him in slowly, but Pogba was just not willing to wait anymore and once it was clear Pogba was heading out SAF ignored him.
2) SAF was thinking of to trying and seal a final EPL win under his management and retire the season before he did, and because of this was a bit more ready to depend on the more experienced guys to get the job done.

An unfortunate loss, especially considering how well Pogba has done since his move. Then again with youngsters it can be a bit hard to say how they will turn out, so it's a bit harsh to complain. Remember when Cleverley first broke into the team and was on form (until Kevin Davies injured him), he was looking so good and getting so much hype. Nowadays he gets a lot of brickbats tongue.gif
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QUOTE(jackiewong @ Oct 8 2013, 12:01 PM)
thumbup.gif .. love the way he commented..
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yups...he is sending a message out to supporter n fans about what is happening inside the dressing room n training...he got the taste of it first hand...n i think he is the only lads that coping well to moyes system well as he had it before he burst into the scene...he know what moyes is about...what to expect from his style n system...soon all machine run smoothly we gonna see result...

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QUOTE(nakedtruth @ Oct 8 2013, 12:23 PM)
Well said..
The team is the almost same as last season.. the only major change is the backroom staffs..
so there will new tactics, new training method and so on... the players need to adapt...
but the training for defender seem not going well...esp Rio
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they say moyes training is a dinosaur...scary mang...even i see rvp is taken toll by it...all lads get niggles here n there...maybe he shud put rio n rvp n even giggs in their own routine last season that keep them fresh n delivered...but they still need to hav some dino drumstick to blend with the squad n system...ahaha
QUOTE(nakedtruth @ Oct 8 2013, 12:20 PM)
huh... how can you compare him to makalele? Makalele is way above him...
the truth is Fellaini form has dropped and he didn't adapt well to the team... is not first class
you see Ozil he went to the team without pre season and do well and this is first class act...
i hope Fellaini can pick up his form and improve and do something like keano or ballack... in Man Utd midfield...
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QUOTE(natzakaria @ Oct 8 2013, 12:42 PM)
He is comparing on a bigger picture while one adapts well/immediately the other is on sick leave
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agreed...in my bigger picture i wud say...arsenal system n ozil style fits n match perfectly...thats why arsene sign him...n he adept well immediately...while for afro...even he is familiar to moyes system...he play diff role for him at everton...even he says he lost in pace to the squad quality...everton squad n man utd squad quality is a jump for him...n he needs to catch up a lot...not to say blending in together for the squad to moyes dinosaur system...n sick leave didnt help his cause...

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QUOTE(onepack @ Oct 8 2013, 11:36 AM)
so comparing him wt ozil? haha so funny la you..
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QUOTE(natzakaria @ Oct 8 2013, 11:42 AM)
He is comparing on a bigger picture while one adapts well/immediately the other is on sick leave
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QUOTE(sunblaze @ Oct 8 2013, 11:54 AM)
the number of impatient fans already flaming DM & Fellaini on the internet is quite staggering @_@
Feel for Fellaini, getting injured so soon after his move.

Considering it took Evra and Vidic around half a season after their transfers to get into the swing of things and really start performing, and Carrick took years of stick before being lauded.. Afroman is gonna have a rough road ahead.
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Evra and Vidic abit different because at that time (2005/2006) both of them is not consider first choice yet... Previous season (2004/2005) Heinze is first choice LB and Wes Brown is first choice CB with Rio. Both of them is cover to the first choice and at that time fans did not expect major signing some more they are not famous yet so less expectation..
this Fellani form not good but DM still play him... must kena condemn la... and expextation is higher coz play in EPL for past 5 years...

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QUOTE(sunblaze @ Oct 8 2013, 01:01 PM)
SAF has given a lot of chances to a lot of young players over the years.

Random thought is, maybe he didn't give Pogba a quicker run because :

1) He wanted to ease him in slowly, but Pogba was just not willing to wait anymore and once it was clear Pogba was heading out SAF ignored him.
2) SAF was thinking of to trying and seal a final EPL win under his management and retire the season before he did, and because of this was a bit more ready to depend on the more experienced guys to get the job done.


An unfortunate loss, especially considering how well Pogba has done since his move. Then again with youngsters it can be a bit hard to say how they will turn out, so it's a bit harsh to complain. Remember when Cleverley first broke into the team and was on form (until Kevin Davies injured him), he was looking so good and getting so much hype. Nowadays he gets a lot of brickbats  tongue.gif
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exactly my tot on pogba case...timing wasnt right to unleash him n he is growing impatience for game time as the reserved doesnt giv him challenge anymore...i regret n move on...like we always do...
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QUOTE(nakedtruth @ Oct 8 2013, 01:43 PM)
Evra and Vidic abit different because at that time (2005/2006) both of them is not consider first choice yet... Previous season (2004/2005) Heinze is first choice LB and Wes Brown is first choice CB with Rio. Both of them is cover to the first choice and at that time fans did not expect major signing some more they are not famous yet so less expectation..
this Fellani form not good but DM still play him... must kena condemn la... and expextation is higher coz play in EPL for past 5 years...
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i tot fellaini got less games than moyes...moyes manage to get 6,7,8 matches to manage...while afro feat half of that games or less...if u join a futsal game out of ur cirlce...it takes more than 5 times or more to play together n bring a lil bit ur game into them...

atm...our best partnership in midfield is clev-carrick...carried from last season...then clev get some niggles...afro comes in...i tot he play his game...calm...direct short passes...quick switch side link play...he is not known for hard runner harrassing opponent like clev n fletch...he protect the ball n high challenge...win 2nd ball...bring it down to play...carrick oso struggling in hard running...not his game...he reads n intercept...clev do all the running...n moyes is building them up to be that ball winning hard runner...so everyone can do bit of defending n win ball back...i see it in 1st 3 games...then we get niggles n struggle to step up against citeh n wba...only wazza cope...

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It was stupid for moyes to talk bout januzaj englang eligibilty. He should have encourage him to focus on club first
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QUOTE(nakedtruth @ Oct 8 2013, 12:33 PM)
why people can understand and you cant?
your problem or mine?
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so its ok for you to question others when he comparing fellaini to makelele but cant accept people question yours is it

i get wht ur trying to say.. but i totally can question u comparing ozil wt fellaini on tht extend.. ozil is a world class player. proven in germany then in spanish league.. at international level. he hv shown he can adapt fast. his style or play clearly fit arsenal style.. lots of passing etc. wenger are using him the same way RM are using him. while fellaini play different role here in united and he certainly not at ozil level. (yeah i'm talking bout adapting wise in case u are wondering)


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QUOTE(budakhijau @ Oct 8 2013, 12:57 PM)
i tot fellaini got less games than moyes...moyes manage to get 6,7,8 matches to manage...while afro feat half of that games or less...if u join a futsal game out of ur cirlce...it takes more than 5 times or more to play together n bring a lil bit ur game into them...

atm...our best partnership in midfield is clev-carrick...carried from last season...then clev get some niggles...afro comes in...i tot he play his game...calm...direct short passes...quick switch side link play...he is not known for hard runner harrassing opponent like clev n fletch...he protect the ball n high challenge...win 2nd ball...bring it down to play...carrick oso struggling in hard running...not his game...he reads n intercept...clev do all the running...n moyes is building them up to be that ball winning hard runner...so everyone can do bit of defending n win ball back...i see it in 1st 3 games...then we get niggles n struggle to step up against citeh n wba...only wazza cope...
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yeah he played less games.... depend on player and some will difficult to adapt to new team but some not..
i'm trying to say DM still have anderson and kagawa but why play fellani? when he is not in form...
i did not really watch Fellani plays but he is good runner too, good in air and threat in attack...
hopefully he can still improve and become better...
i would say man utd miss the midfield general..

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QUOTE(nakedtruth @ Oct 8 2013, 01:25 PM)
yeah he played less games.... depend on player and some will difficult to adapt to new team but some not..
i'm trying to say DM still have anderson and kagawa but why play fellani? when he is not in form...
i did not really watch Fellani plays but he is good runner too, good in air and threat in attack...
hopefully he can still improve and become better...
i would say man utd miss the midfield general..
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anderson, kagawa and fellaini are all different kind of players. IMO, carrick and fellaini are quite similar unless fellaini moves bit upfield to support the strikers.
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QUOTE(onepack @ Oct 8 2013, 01:10 PM)
so its ok for you to question others when he comparing fellaini to makelele but cant accept people question yours is it

i get wht ur trying to say.. but i totally can question u comparing ozil wt fellaini on tht extend.. ozil is a world class player. proven in germany then in spanish league.. at international level. he hv shown he can adapt fast. his style or play clearly fit arsenal style.. lots of passing etc. wenger are using him the same way RM are using him. while fellaini play different role here in united and he certainly not at ozil level. (yeah i'm talking bout adapting wise in case u are wondering)
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first he is comparing DM with DM.. obviously Makalele is way above...
second i'm not comparing players attributes/style/positon but to tell the differences of world class player..
yes u said urself arsenal use ozil the same way rm use.. most important arsenal play with technique and pace which fits ozil well
DM know Fellani well enuf but still play him in different role? DM still have other choices in the squad..but why buy him?
obvious this is a panic buy to please the fans or boards...
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QUOTE(nakedtruth @ Oct 8 2013, 01:35 PM)
first he is comparing DM with DM.. obviously Makalele is way above...
second i'm not comparing players attributes/style/positon but to tell the differences of world class player..
yes u said urself arsenal use ozil the same way rm use.. most important arsenal play with technique and pace which fits ozil well
DM know Fellani well enuf but still play him in different role? DM still have other choices in the squad..but why buy him?
obvious this is a panic buy to please the fans or boards...
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i think still quite early to conclude how DM gonna use Fellaini. and now that he is injured....gonna take longer time for us to see anything tongue.gif
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QUOTE(daydreaming @ Oct 8 2013, 01:37 PM)
i think still quite early to conclude how DM gonna use Fellaini. and now that he is injured....gonna take longer time for us to see anything tongue.gif
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yeah true... that is why i hope he can improve and develop become like keano or ballack..drive the midfield...
I would say DM is still testing in every way.. formation/players/tactics/training method...

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QUOTE(nakedtruth @ Oct 8 2013, 01:43 PM)
yeah true... that is why i hope he can improve and develop become like keano or ballack..drive the midfield...
I would say DM is still testing in every way.. formation/players/tactics/training method...
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actually.... i donno why but with his height n build, i sort of hoping he would become another yaya. hahaha
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QUOTE(daydreaming @ Oct 8 2013, 01:44 PM)
actually.... i donno why but with his height n build, i sort of hoping he would become another yaya. hahaha
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not bad if he can become yaya.. because he is one of the reasons man utd can't beat city..
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QUOTE(nakedtruth @ Oct 8 2013, 01:53 PM)
not bad if he can become yaya.. because he is one of the reasons man utd can't beat city..
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Can't beat City? Seriously? Last year we won at the Etihad?

And Fellaini is not a defensive midfielder ffs
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Oct 8 2013, 02:05 PM)
Can't beat City? Seriously? Last year we won at the Etihad?

And Fellaini is not a defensive midfielder ffs
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bro not to judge one game only la...
overall the last few games la.. yaya is the key man lo...
even at Eithad is last minute goal... and yaya inspired the fight back..
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QUOTE(nakedtruth @ Oct 8 2013, 02:14 PM)
bro not to judge one game only la...
overall the last few games la.. yaya is the key man lo...
even at Eithad is last minute goal... and yaya inspired the fight back..
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In fact, Toure didn't manage to play as much as he would liked against us this season, most of the attack came from the flanks, which when Rafael was absent. Toure controlled from his half and that was it. Fellaini played well against City alongside Carrick, blocking out the supply from the middle after he came on. But to compare Toure and Fellaini is pretty absurd knowing that they are two different players with different calibre.

I would say it is too early to judge Afro for now. I do believe United overpaid for him, 27mil is way too much. He has alot to prove coming from that hefty pricetag on his head. Michael Carrick came for 18mil and he is worth every penny, many thanks to our London feeder club, which one of the fan decided to hide in his cave after his team's mauling by the Hammers sweat.gif Fellaini needs to step up and shoot down his critics. His injury came at the wrong timing.
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Oct 8 2013, 02:20 PM)
In fact, Toure didn't manage to play as much as he would liked against us this season, most of the attack came from the flanks, which when Rafael was absent. Toure controlled from his half and that was it. Fellaini played well against City alongside Carrick, blocking out the supply from the middle after he came on. But to compare Toure and Fellaini is pretty absurd knowing that they are two different players with different calibre.

I would say it is too early to judge Afro for now. I do believe United overpaid for him, 27mil is way too much. He has alot to prove coming from that hefty pricetag on his head. Michael Carrick came for 18mil and he is worth every penny, many thanks to our London feeder club, which one of the fan decided to hide in his cave after his team's mauling by the Hammers  sweat.gif Fellaini needs to step up and shoot down his critics. His injury came at the wrong timing.
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haha we din compare. we actually say their build and height are quite similar, and fellaini did play in similar position with Yaya before. but yes, they 2 have very different styles and skills.

18 mill was how many years ago? smile.gif
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Oct 8 2013, 02:20 PM)
In fact, Toure didn't manage to play as much as he would liked against us this season, most of the attack came from the flanks, which when Rafael was absent. Toure controlled from his half and that was it. Fellaini played well against City alongside Carrick, blocking out the supply from the middle after he came on. But to compare Toure and Fellaini is pretty absurd knowing that they are two different players with different calibre.

I would say it is too early to judge Afro for now. I do believe United overpaid for him, 27mil is way too much. He has alot to prove coming from that hefty pricetag on his head. Michael Carrick came for 18mil and he is worth every penny, many thanks to our London feeder club, which one of the fan decided to hide in his cave after his team's mauling by the Hammers  sweat.gif Fellaini needs to step up and shoot down his critics. His injury came at the wrong timing.
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hmm.. i have different view.. just a sharing...
is true he didn't manage to play well but is good enough.. he did not go too deep but he has control..
Fellani wise i had to disagreed with you.. he did not really play well.. loss the ball, poor passing and did not run for the balls..

again i would say i hope he can improve and develop to somebody.

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QUOTE(nakedtruth @ Oct 8 2013, 02:32 PM)
hmm.. i have different view.. just a sharing...
is true he didn't manage to play well but is good enough.. he did not go too deep but he has control..
Fellani wise i had to disagreed with you.. he did not really play well.. loss the ball, poor passing and did not run for the balls..

again i would say i hope he can improve and develop to somebody.
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Noted. Don't worry, everyone has different views as long as they are not blind bashing without proper facts like someone here smile.gif One thing I admire about DM is his willingness to play youths. Notable Ross Barkley, Wayne Rooney etc and now Januzaj
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Ahhh this feels like de Gea vs Lindegaard case in this thread b4.

Btw I hope Fellaini won't become like what happened to Berbatov, hefty price tag but can't please the fans.
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QUOTE(daydreaming @ Oct 8 2013, 09:37 AM)
its not easy to be a 'visible' def mid unless u r a box to box runner like Keano. biggrin.gif
MU fans seem to be complaining bout every single thing from DM to the backroom staff to the new signing who only played few games. tongue.gif
wonder why the fans are not giving DM credits for playing Januzaj? i seriously doubt he'll get a chance under SAF
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these "fans" will be glory hunting as usual.
DM successful: "i've always believed in him!"
DM fail: "i've always told you he is not good enough!"

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"A win like this can turn things around. I think us, as players, know we haven't been good enough. A new manager has come in and we haven't been good enough for him.

"Obviously the manager is under a bit of pressure but we know, as a team, it's us who have let him down. We have to pull together for the manager and show the sort of fight we have done here and we'll be fine. This will be a transition season because it’s a new manager with different styles and we have to adapt to them. More importantly, we need to do better for him than we have been."

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it takes a player with lots of guts to say such things.
it would have been easier to point finger at DM whistling.gif
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Oct 8 2013, 03:20 PM)
In fact, Toure didn't manage to play as much as he would liked against us this season, most of the attack came from the flanks, which when Rafael was absent. Toure controlled from his half and that was it. Fellaini played well against City alongside Carrick, blocking out the supply from the middle after he came on. But to compare Toure and Fellaini is pretty absurd knowing that they are two different players with different calibre.

I would say it is too early to judge Afro for now. I do believe United overpaid for him, 27mil is way too much. He has alot to prove coming from that hefty pricetag on his head. Michael Carrick came for 18mil and he is worth every penny, many thanks to our London feeder club, which one of the fan decided to hide in his cave after his team's mauling by the Hammers  sweat.gif Fellaini needs to step up and shoot down his critics. His injury came at the wrong timing.
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QUOTE(nakedtruth @ Oct 8 2013, 03:32 PM)
hmm.. i have different view.. just a sharing...
is true he didn't manage to play well but is good enough.. he did not go too deep but he has control..
Fellani wise i had to disagreed with you.. he did not really play well.. loss the ball, poor passing and did not run for the balls..

again i would say i hope he can improve and develop to somebody.
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but statistics says otherwise...inb4 stats dont represent what we watch...hehe...each player is unique in its own way...they bring diff quality n dimension...keano is keano, yaya is yaya, ballack is ballack, makelele is makelele, ozil is ozil, carrick is carrick, clev is clev, scholesy is scholesy...gud player always get the job done given any task n position...yaya in mancini 1st season is a dm...he build the foundation of the team in defence...keep it tight...then 2nd season mancini let him loose to run bomb forward...n he has the technique to dribble past player...strong to fend off tackles...gud both feet...n his determination is top notch...n for me thats the only thing makes the diff in the game...easy to say...most of their player fired up in the last derby they show that up n put on a show...they and all other team will want to beat us the champion...wba as well...sunderland oso...all the other 19 team gonna want to put a fight to us...its the expectation for being a champion...while we not up for it...for me its the only thing make the different...like wayne said...saf said about expectation as well in his last speech...wat to expect from opponent, from the fans, from the player itself, from the shirt, an expectation of MAN UTD...they player knows it...they shud done better...i take it considerably as the team is in process n transition...tho some wont buy it...

i hav faith in fellaini...he will come gud...his steely appearance will add our squad...

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QUOTE(natzakaria @ Oct 8 2013, 03:44 PM)
Unlike some people you have yet to grow balls and live in your delusional #andrewthoayamfanboywearunitedscarf world.
DM is a two bit manager with him he brought his two bit back room staff and lack of tactics
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can u elaborate more about DM...i really want to know ur POV...lets make it healthy...

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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Oct 8 2013, 02:37 PM)
Noted. Don't worry, everyone has different views as long as they are not blind bashing without proper facts like someone here  smile.gif One thing I admire about DM is his willingness to play youths. Notable Ross Barkley, Wayne Rooney etc and now Januzaj
Maybe DM should consider buying Ross Barkley eh? He's playing as Advanced MF right? Tim Cahill did say he's a talented footballer.

QUOTE(natzakaria @ Oct 8 2013, 02:44 PM)
Unlike some people you have yet to grow balls and live in your delusional #andrewthoayamfanboywearunitedscarf world.
DM is a two bit manager with him he brought his two bit back room staff and lack of tactics
DM is not a two bit manager, he's just not used to Utd system yet, Utd players also not used to his style yet. I'll give him a season or two, then can judge him.
No point judging him now. Give the guy a break, man.
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QUOTE(budakhijau @ Oct 8 2013, 03:44 PM)
but statistics says otherwise...inb4 stats dont represent what we watch...hehe...each player is unique in its own way...they bring diff quality n dimension...keano is keano, yaya is yaya, ballack is ballack, makelele is makelele, ozil is ozil, carrick is carrick, clev is clev, scholesy is scholesy...gud player always get the job done given any task n position...yaya in mancini 1st season is a dm...he build the foundation of the team in defence...keep it tight...then 2nd season mancini let him loose to run bomb forward...n he has the technique to dribble past player...strong to fend off tackles...gud both feet...n his determination is top notch...n for me thats the only thing makes the diff in the game...easy to say...most of their player fired up in the last derby they show that up n put on a show...they and all other team will want to beat us the champion...wba as well...sunderland oso...all the other 19 team gonna want to put a fight to us...its the expectation for being a champion...while we not up for it...for me its the only thing make the different...like wayne said...saf said about expectation as well in his last speech...wat to expect from opponent, from the fans, from the player itself, from the shirt, an expectation of MAN UTD...they player knows it...they shud done better...i take it considerably as the team is in process n transition...tho some wont buy it...

i hav faith in fellaini...he will come gud...his steely appearance will add our squad...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...s-revealed.html


can u elaborate more about DM...i really want to know ur POV...lets make it healthy...
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When you said yaya is yaya.. i couldn't help laughing sweat.gif

QUOTE(roytomas8998 @ Oct 8 2013, 03:48 PM)
Maybe DM should consider buying Ross Barkley eh? He's playing as Advanced MF right? Tim Cahill did say he's a talented footballer.
DM is not a two bit manager, he's just not used to Utd system yet, Utd players also not used to his style yet. I'll give him a season or two, then can judge him.
No point judging him now. Give the guy a break, man.
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Ross Barkley, not sure which part of midfield he operates la but he is one talented chap. I doubt Everton will sell another rough diamond, their manager is doing great with the team that he has at the moment, especially with James McCarthy, Benteke etc laugh.gif

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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Oct 8 2013, 03:57 PM)
When you said yaya is yaya.. i couldn't help laughing  sweat.gif
Ross Barkley, not sure which part of midfield he operates la but he is one talented chap. I doubt Everton will sell another rough diamond, their manager is doing great with the team that he has at the moment, especially with James McCarthy, Benteke etc  laugh.gif
Everton doing great bcoz of the foundation laid by the "2 bit manager" whistling.gif
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Oct 8 2013, 03:57 PM)
When you said yaya is yaya.. i couldn't help laughing  sweat.gif
Ross Barkley, not sure which part of midfield he operates la but he is one talented chap. I doubt Everton will sell another rough diamond, their manager is doing great with the team that he has at the moment, especially with James McCarthy, Benteke Lukaku etc  laugh.gif
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In response to YOUR warning pleased be advised that you need to differentiate between fanboys and supporters.
Fanboys has one track opinion or lack off and will blindly follow as they are merely fans similar to those who are fans of KPOP and Biebers.

Alternate opinions are not welcomed and labelled as lalangs.
United supporters are expressive and will bash if something is ill and even from the non verbal expressions of the players they seem clueless to the non United way of Moyes.

I trust this clarifies my stand and hope that the moderators are not fanboys but supporters
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I'm declaring my right as a United supporter to be expressive and bash.
You must welcome my criticism and opinions as a supporter because that is what us supporters do.

QUOTE(natzakaria @ Oct 8 2013, 02:44 PM)
Unlike some people you have yet to grow balls and live in your delusional #andrewthoayamfanboywearunitedscarf world.
DM is a two bit manager with him he brought his two bit back room staff and lack of tactics
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My opinion is we keep David Moyes.
Last time they said "you can't win with kids" but we win didn't we?
Now they're going to say "you can't win with two bit managers" we'll just have to proof them wrong again.
Unless you've got a better idea?
Then which 64-bit manager you want to helm United?

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QUOTE(roytomas8998 @ Oct 8 2013, 04:48 PM)
Maybe DM should consider buying Ross Barkley eh? He's playing as Advanced MF right? Tim Cahill did say he's a talented footballer.
DM is not a two bit manager, he's just not used to Utd system yet, Utd players also not used to his style yet. I'll give him a season or two, then can judge him.
No point judging him now. Give the guy a break, man.
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When you said yaya is yaya.. i couldn't help laughing  sweat.gif
Ross Barkley, not sure which part of midfield he operates la but he is one talented chap. I doubt Everton will sell another rough diamond, their manager is doing great with the team that he has at the moment, especially with James McCarthy, Benteke etc  laugh.gif
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Everton doing great bcoz of the foundation laid by the "2 bit manager"  whistling.gif
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fixed..  doh.gif
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Lukaku looks dangerous when he plays mang. Why Jose loaned him out? doh.gif
The player looks like Drogba's twin brother.

We need real African players in the team, not Young or Welbeck.
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I guess if u see SAF struggle for three seasons back in the early days, u'll labelled him as 'half bit manager' eh?

If this is what 'supporter' mindset of a good manager, then i'm a proud fanboy laa.

I'm expressing myself!
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SAF knows best, he probably expect something like this would have happen, therefore the "your job now is to standby our new manager" speech notworthy.gif
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I guess if u see SAF struggle for three seasons back in the early days, u'll labelled him as 'half  bit manager' eh?

If this is what 'supporter' mindset of a good manager, then i'm a proud fanboy laa.

I'm expressing myself!
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fanboy's aren't allowed to express themselves. shakehead.gif
please continue with your I wub.gif Moyes mindset, please!
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SAF knows best, he probably expect something like this would have happen, therefore the "your job now is to standby our new manager" speech  notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(roytomas8998 @ Oct 8 2013, 05:09 PM)
Lukaku looks dangerous when he plays mang. Why Jose loaned him out?  doh.gif
The player looks like Drogba's twin brother.

We need real African players in the team, not Young or Welbeck.
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Well Drogba wasn't really good until he was about 27 28 when he played for Marseille. You could say he is a late bloomer, so to speak. Welbeck is only 21, 22? Don't really dismiss Welbz just because he is not good (yet). You never know, we might have our very own African player (Welbz is part Ghanaian) tongue.gif
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I guess if u see SAF struggle for three seasons back in the early days, u'll labelled him as 'half  bit manager' eh?

If this is what 'supporter' mindset of a good manager, then i'm a proud fanboy laa.

I'm expressing myself!
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I bet anyone here ever see man utd before saf take the helm...
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after these few matches in the league, i have agree moyes is a 2 bit manager with a 2 bit backroom staffs...and why is that so? because we should be top of the table now and we arent, if saf still at helm we confirm have at least 20 points now

and most importantly, it's because i say so...it matters
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100 percent record with clean sheets and loads of goals every game. 100% possession and all shots on target. Every player would become on form and no need

to play every game to get into fitness. Every player has 100% passing rate and tackles and dribbles. Because that's what SAF would/did bring to United rolleyes.gif
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What is this 2bit 2bit. I only know 32bit and 64bit. :/
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I know we have plenty of centre backs, but looking at our defensive crisis/woes, we could be signing another centre back next summer to fill vidic's shoes when he is not available and he's not young anymore. The good thing is Moyes is willing to give opportunities to smalling/evans/jones to partner vidic in bpl games. If they can flourish and shine, we might not sign one tho. Main priority should be another midfield like ander herrera. Don't forget left back like baines if buttner/fabio are not ready yet.

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^ ask rio & vida to step down....the 3 youngsters to start frequently... dun forget we stil got michael keane waiting.....
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QUOTE(gr8fr8 @ Oct 8 2013, 05:47 PM)
Well Drogba wasn't really good until he was about 27 28 when he played for Marseille. You could say he is a late bloomer, so to speak. Welbeck is only 21, 22? Don't really dismiss Welbz just because he is not good (yet). You never know, we might have our very own African player (Welbz is part Ghanaian)  tongue.gif
late bloomer is fine but dont bloom too late. tongue.gif

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I bet anyone here ever see man utd before saf take the helm...
close enuf. I only support Utd in 1990, some more I'm the only Utd supporter in my Primary 6 class. sweat.gif
the rest all support Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs. That time mana ada org support Chelsea n Citeh... whistling.gif
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^ ask rio & vida to step down....the 3 youngsters to start frequently... dun forget we stil got michael keane waiting.....
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Will suffer without vida if he is not playing ATM....haha.....the 3 have to start frequently to know if they r good enough to replace vida.
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late bloomer is fine but dont bloom too late.  tongue.gif
close enuf. I only support Utd in 1990, some more I'm the only Utd supporter in my Primary 6 class.  sweat.gif
the rest all support Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs. That time mana ada org support Chelsea n Citeh... whistling.gif
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Even fallen giants like Leeds United and Nottingham Forest history books are way thicker than Chelsea and City whistling.gif
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Will suffer without vida if he is not playing ATM....haha.....the 3 have to start frequently to know if they r good enough to replace vida.
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i dun think we'll suffer if vida aint playing. those 3 are more than enuf quality to take over anytime now. how are they gonna gain experience from playing if vida + rio keep on playing? wanna start revolution, start as early as possible.

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What is this 2bit 2bit. I only know 32bit and 64bit. :/
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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Oct 8 2013, 08:57 PM)
i dun think we'll suffer if vida aint playing. those 3 are more than enuf quality to take over anytime now. how are they gonna gain experience from playing if vida + rio keep on playing? wanna start revolution, start as early as possible.
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Vida is still the best cb around. He bosses in the air and on the ground. Look at the cc game, evans + smalling...really sweat.gif sweat.gif We'll just give them more games anyway. But i think jones has the most talent of all 3, but he's still very young and occupies different position. We might be signing a world class defender to replace vidic tho. We need one considering our defensive crisis this season.

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^ agree with u, to a certain extent. sign a 1st team quality centre back, the young 'uns rotate to partner that new signing. rio + vida can slowly phase out. there's a big gap in terms of age between rio + vida with our 3 young 'uns. need someone in between to guide 'em.

meanwhile our fullbacks....... doh.gif
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^ agree with u, to a certain extent. sign a 1st team quality centre back, the young 'uns rotate to partner that new signing. rio + vida can slowly phase out. there's a big gap in terms of age between rio + vida with our 3 young 'uns. need someone in between to guide 'em.

meanwhile our fullbacks....... doh.gif
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rio can phase out already hahaahhaha...vidic can probably last at least another 2 years but he is injury prone remember...fullbacks.....left back...buttner not ready will go on loan in january i think....fabio being played in different position like right back....

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This is how bad it is

http://www.soccersouls.com/2013/10/manches...llaini-injured/
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QUOTE(natzakaria @ Oct 8 2013, 09:44 PM)
Some believes that if fellani is out, Kagawa will get the opportunity to play?
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QUOTE(nshady @ Oct 8 2013, 09:58 PM)
Vida is still the best cb around. He bosses in the air and on the ground. Look at the cc game, evans + smalling...really  sweat.gif  sweat.gif We'll just give them more games anyway. But i think jones has the most talent of all 3, but he's still very young and occupies different position. We might be signing a world class defender to replace vidic tho. We need one considering our defensive crisis this season.
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^ agree with u, to a certain extent. sign a 1st team quality centre back, the young 'uns rotate to partner that new signing. rio + vida can slowly phase out. there's a big gap in terms of age between rio + vida with our 3 young 'uns. need someone in between to guide 'em.

meanwhile our fullbacks....... doh.gif
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For me...rio n vida is still top player...rio had wonderful season last year...his rotation suits him well...now vida is coming back...he shud folo rio routine n rotation between them as he is not the same player when they r europe most formidable force...jones n smalling shud get game time alongside the old guard...i wud prefer riojones partnership while vidasmalling...the mix of combative n calm game reader...jones is vida type...small is rio type...saf prepare them like forever to take the baton...

Agree with sino on age gap...but i think evans is the link somewhere between them...he oso shud be thrown for some game time...not to say that the young'un is not gud n ready...in defence...experience always got upper hand in term of calm n clinical timing challenge...while young'un sometimes crumble under pressure n make silly mistake in box or inviting red cards...maybe home game we can start young'un duo...just sayin...for me the CB is in safe hand,gud depth n cover n for future long ahead...

I oso wanna add here...i agree when some says certain player need games to build form...which in vida cases...after similar twice blunder...for me his blunder is not purposely down to form or mistake...both situation he caught by suprise which in his top form...the ball hav been blast away...coming back after long lay off injury...the reflex reaction is still not that sharp...the body react a lil bit slow to thay kind of suprise situation...hence he needs game time...but maybe age oso play some factor to body reflex reaction...whatever it is...he will overcome it...like i said...old is gold in CB...

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QUOTE(natzakaria @ Oct 8 2013, 10:44 PM)
Fans or supporter did that?or r they lalang?how come a person being happy n laugh,curse n bash at other human injury or sickness?supposedly we wish him speedy recovery...encourage him to get back soon on the pitch...how low can they be?it is football...sport that play by human to entertain its enthusiast...indeed it is bad like u said...n SAD...for me...to see such antics exist in the game that i luv...i pray there is hope in the future such things can be taken out from the sport...

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Jeebus Young and Ando  laugh.gif  cry.gif  shakehead.gif  ohmy.gif
young on 120k? what was SAF thinking? I thought Rooney is on 230k or something?
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cleverly so cheap lol

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cleverly so cheap lol

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cleverly not as cheap as Januzaj and Powell tongue.gif
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Chicharito hints of quitting Manchester United. Sigh. Another blow? sweat.gif


http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1577402/...ed-exit?cc=4716

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Now Chicarito considering to leave the club for more games.

http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1577402/...ed-exit?cc=4716

SAd news

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http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features...s.aspx?pageNo=1

Adnan Januzaj has revealed his major influences include Patrice Evra and Ryan Giggs as he strives to make his mark at Manchester United.

The teenager made his debut in the Community Shield win over Wigan Athletic and, after earning a first Barclays Premier League appearance against Crystal Palace, celebrated his first start with both goals at Sunderland last Saturday.

In a recent interview with United Review, the official matchday programme, Januzaj explained that working with top players in training every day is helping him to adapt to life with the first team.

"Everyone gives me advice," he stated. "That's the great thing here. People want you to do well and want to help you develop your game. I speak a lot with Patrice and Giggsy. They have great experience, they're big players at the club and have gone through everything I'm going through. Their advice is important.

"If I play on the left, Patrice is just behind so he helps me, and I'm playing in a similar position to Giggsy. I ask him questions all the time as he's been a top, top player for so long. He's a good teacher."

Januzaj is aware of the impact that stepping up to first-team level is having on his game but is continuing to learn all the time.

"Everything is quicker," he stressed. "The games are quicker, you have to think faster and play quicker. I'm training with great players almost every day so I do what they tell me but at the same time I want to bring my own qualities too. That's important. You have to do both.

"The technical qualities [of the likes of Robin van Persie, Shinji Kagawa and Wayne Rooney] are brilliant, so just playing alongside them raises your standards. You learn little things like when to speed up play, when to pass, when to hold the ball, all those things... by watching experienced players it just becomes natural."


looking forward to see them start together in the side n produce magic that we all craving for...
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it breaks my heart to see hernandez leave but if he was to sit on d bench more than welbeck i'd rather see him go & start regularly elsewhere. it's waste of talent, he deserves better. sad.gif

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...trice-Evra.html

regret?...even the mighty SAF cud not make perfect judgement at times...look at bigger picture he is a masterstroke of all his achievement...just maybe if he gonna be a flop or get big headed at juve after a while to be seen...there is 2 side of a coin...manager are human...nobody perfect...hence calling moyes head after 7 league game is premature ejaculation...lol
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it breaks my heart to see hernandez leave but if he was to sit on d bench more than welbeck i'd rather see him go & start regularly elsewhere. it's waste of talent, he deserves better.  sad.gif
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If hernandez have had more minutes on the pitch he can score at least 25 goals per season, he is not above, van persie or rooney but he deserves more time on the pitch.
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If hernandez have had more minutes on the pitch he can score at least 25 goals per season, he is not above, van persie or rooney but he deserves more time on the pitch.
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yes, songkok needs to go on a 3 year loan somewhere else.
i think chicha is too good to just rot there.
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yes, songkok needs to go on a 3 year loan somewhere else.
i think chicha is too good to just rot there.
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budak songkok play a lot but most of it hv been on the wing..

it is sad seeing hernandez only warming the bench but the truth is he is fighting wt RVP spot


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QUOTE(David Moyes @ Oct 9 2013, 11:20 AM)
If hernandez have had more minutes on the pitch he can score at least 25 goals per season, he is not above, van persie or rooney but he deserves more time on the pitch.
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it's a shame that we do not fully utilizin his talent despite he got so much to offer. his case is pretty similar to smudger with him bein alot more crucial infront of goal. both love d club so much but limited by lack on mins on pitch.  sad.gif
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QUOTE(onepack @ Oct 9 2013, 11:32 AM)
why dont u start to play him then.. and kagawa too  tongue.gif
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i like hernandez. superb goal poacher. fast runner. but he is not perfect - his timing of the run seems to be a bit off, his crosses are not that good either and he cannot provide corner kicks like RVP or free kicks like Rooney. and he always seems to be offside.

given a choice, i will still play RVP and Rooney instead of hernandez due to their set piece ability.

so yeah, it's sad to see him leave or not getting enuf minutes. but thanks to our lousy form this season........the pairing of RVP and Rooney seem to be more appropriate.

as for welbeck, his ability to defend, set piece and link-up play are still better in general if compared to Hernandez (but welbeck's finishing seems to be very poor when playing for MU).





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it's all down to the gaffer on how he rotate his players & fit 'em tactically. i wish he'd give moyes more times coz time like this moyes'd rather play it safe (to secure points to save his ass tongue.gif ) but he is almost at his prime now (considerin he is scorin goals for fun for his national team) so i wont really blame him if he decided to pack his bag n leave. cry.gif
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i hope chicharito didnt leave...very good goal poacher....the one who should leave is wellbeck....very useless on finishing..


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we used to hav 4 striker dont we...remember cole yorke ole teddy...now we hav rvp rooney chica welbz...i dun see any harm...
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d thing is back then everyone get mins quite evenly, but not in this case.
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QUOTE(David Moyes @ Oct 9 2013, 11:20 AM)
If hernandez have had more minutes on the pitch he can score at least 25 goals per season, he is not above, van persie or rooney but he deserves more time on the pitch.
er, David, I got so many questions to ask you. Y no play Kagawa n Chica? Y u like to play Young n Welbeck? Y u 2bit n not 64bit? Did Zaha @f*** ur daughter?

Thank u David.

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we used to hav 4 striker dont we...remember cole yorke ole teddy...now we hav rvp rooney chica welbz...i dun see any harm...
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cole = was bought in to be the main striker.
yorke = like chicha we bought a diamond in a rough and didn't expect him to have such a good partnership with cole.
ole = similar to yorke, ole was a diamond in the rough but he came in when yorke was doing so well with cole.
teddy = great striker but aging, so didn't mind a bit part role.

rvp = main striker
rooney = main striker/supporting
chicha = diamond in the rough, needs more games to be at the next level, i think he has enough quality to be of the same level as rooney/rvp.
welbz = young and potential, imho he needs games but not at the expense of chicha


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QUOTE(onepack @ Oct 9 2013, 11:37 AM)
budak songkok play a lot but most of it hv been on the wing..

it is sad seeing hernandez only warming the bench but the truth is he is fighting wt RVP spot
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budak songkok most of the time very selfish..seldom want to pass the ball when there is a clear space and chance for other team mate to shoot..

that's what i dont like about budak songkok..no team spirit one.. mad.gif
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budak songkok most of the time very selfish..seldom want to pass the ball when there is a clear space and chance for other team mate to shoot..

that's what i dont like about budak songkok..no team spirit one.. mad.gif
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dont consider yorke as rough diamond, he was pretty much a finished product iirc we broke d bank to sign him @ 1xM gbp from villa... cole was abit like inzaghi of juve back then, can be very good in a game while shiat in another. iirc only when yorke joined us cole started to perform consistently. could be wrong thou since that time didn't have much access to internet/epl matches like now. laugh.gif

imo chica should have some mins from all d times given to d other 3 once we gained momentum & not too far off from d league leader (hopefully it wont take too long), if not he is better off settled elsewhere. smile.gif

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budak songkok most of the time very selfish..seldom want to pass the ball when there is a clear space and chance for other team mate to shoot..
that's what i dont like about budak songkok..no team spirit one.. mad.gif
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welbeck - finishing poor, decision making poor

chicarito - finishing very good, decision making good

its very obvious....
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welbeck - finishing poor, decision making poor

chicarito - finishing very good, decision making good

its very obvious....
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Manchester United midfielder Marouane Fellaini is expected to play with a cast on his wrist for Belgium in their World Cup qualifiers against Croatia and Wales.

The 25-year-old midfielder missed United's 2-1 win at Sunderland on Saturday because of the injury.

It had been feared he would be out of action until December.

But although coach Marc Wilmots said Fellaini had ligament damage and needed surgery, he trained on Tuesday.

There are also reports suggesting Fellaini, who joined United from Everton on transfer deadline day for £27.5m, will delay having an operation until December.

On Tuesday, an article on United's official website  said: "Marouane Fellaini has trained with Belgium wearing a protective cast on his injured wrist.

"Although some reports suggest the midfielder faces an operation and a spell on the sidelines, the deadline-day arrival is due to play in a splint against Croatia and Wales in the World Cup qualifiers."


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Ravel Morrison's exit from Manchester United in 2012 was the "correct thing" for both player and club, says former assistant boss Mike Phelan.

The 20-year-old midfielder, who was in trouble with the law several times at United, scored a fine goal for West Ham in Sunday's 3-0 win over Tottenham.

"He needed to get out of Manchester," Phelan told BBC Radio 5 live.

"He has gone away from the club now which I think in hindsight is the correct thing to have done."

Morrison, who has been called up for England's Under-21s, pleaded guilty to witness intimidation in February 2011  and was fined £600 three months later for throwing his girlfriend's phone through an open window during an argument.

He was also cautioned for common assault in 2008.

"It is easy to say we let our most promising player leave but is it worth the hassle to wait and maybe not see fruition to it?" asked Phelan, who is currently out of work.

Morrison left Old Trafford to join West Ham in January 2012 for a reported fee of £1m after Sir Alex Ferguson, Manchester United manager at the time, described his wage demands as "unrealistic".

But Hammers boss Sam Allardyce said on Sunday, in the wake of Morrison's solo goal against Spurs, that "the penny has dropped" and that the highly rated youngster had "sorted himself out".

Birmingham City manager Lee Clark took Morrison on loan last season and said that he was "nothing short of brilliant in terms of his application and his attitude" for most of his spell at St Andrew's.

Phelan, who left his own role at Manchester United in the wake of Ferguson stepping down at the end of the 2012-13 campaign, hopes Morrison's focus remains on his football.

"It is still a risk with Ravel, but he seems to have got his head in the right situation, his performances are decent and getting better. Hopefully he can maintain that," he said.

"At Manchester United there were other things going on which were a distraction for him and that played a part in his downfall."

Phelan revealed that despite the promise that was evident in scoring two goals in an emphatic FA Youth Cup win over Sheffield United in 2011, Morrison regularly missed training at Manchester United.

"He had a tendency to disappear for the odd day or two and then we would manage to find him and bring him back in," he said.

"It really was a day-to-day project with him. One day he was there and then another he wasn't.

"He is a nice guy when he is with you, when he is around football, but obviously there were distractions.

"At the end of the day is it too much work to put into one person and keep the harmony and the balance? That was a decision that the club had to make."


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Manchester United striker Federico Macheda has had his loan spell with Championship side Doncaster cut short because of a hamstring injury.

The 22-year-old joined Rovers on a one-month deal in September and scored three goals in five appearances for Paul Dickov's side.

Dickov told the club website:  "He will be missing for a good few weeks.

"We are speaking to Manchester United to do a deal to get him back once he is fit."


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welbeck - finishing poor, decision making poor
chicarito - finishing very good, decision making good
its very obvious....
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Chicarito - unselfish
Welbeck - very selfish
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welbeck - ingulung

only ddg love chicha
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never think about supporters like me!
i feel a need to express myself!! mad.gif
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iinm

cole = was bought in to be the main striker.
yorke = like chicha we bought a diamond in a rough and didn't expect him to have such a good partnership with cole.
ole = similar to yorke, ole was a diamond in the rough but he came in when yorke was doing so well with cole.
teddy = great striker but aging, so didn't mind a bit part role.

rvp = main striker
rooney = main striker/supporting
chicha = diamond in the rough, needs more games to be at the next level, i think he has enough quality to be of the same level as rooney/rvp.
welbz = young and potential, imho he needs games but not at the expense of chicha
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for me...its rvp-roon the main striker...chica is ole...welbz is for the future...all of them gud enuf to start...in any top team...chica n welbz can be main striker...the thing is...how they prepare for games...the gameplan...eyes close...its easy rvp n rooney shud start...chica always a threat whether he start or subs...welbz is for his energy...i hope most of them got game time in balance...i always prefer chicarito as impact striker...exactly like ole...n welbz we can prepared him for certain games...plan ahead when to throw him like saf always did...those department is in gud depth as well for me...for me everything is in place atm...just moyes n the lads need time to show it in big stage...the more they get games under their belt...it will get there...
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QUOTE(natzakaria @ Oct 9 2013, 03:46 PM)
same stuff...just another random writer opinion...not valid to me bcos not from the player in the squad...i prefer it from the lads himself who get taste of moyes regime n official club news...did the outside world really know what happen inside the dressing room n training ground...only reliable ex-player coach n staff know what going inside there with access...n what happen inside there...stays there...its been saf house rule since ever...n i think moyes will continue that...n most of moyes interview,pre-matchday programme n after game komen...for me he is an honest person...he say what he see n all see on the field...he admits bad games...vs city n wba...he is spot on...while others they only speculate...like zaha news on moyes daughter...we dunno izit really true onot...but there always loophole somewhere for papers to make headline...n social media...if the news is true...i think zaha dun even get bench...he will be out of teamlist or send on loan...n ur source seem a lot of them r tabloid...

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pls let kagawa and hernandez go if moyes not gonna play them regularly. dont waste their potential.
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Welbeck is playing the proper striker role for England and he is doing really well and getting into the box. I remember him scoring two goals (that's double the tally from last season) right after the international week.

Alan Shearer mentioned that he is happy for Welbeck to be more selfish this year as that is what striker should do.

To me, pass or shoot, as long as United score, it doesn't matter. But if the chance go to waste. sad.gif
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QUOTE(budakhijau @ Oct 9 2013, 04:02 PM)
same stuff...just another random writer opinion...not valid to me bcos not from the player in the squad...i prefer it from the lads himself who get taste of moyes regime n official club news...did the outside world really know what happen inside the dressing room n training ground...only reliable ex-player coach n staff know what going inside there with access...n what happen inside there...stays there...its been saf house rule since ever...n i think moyes will continue that...n most of moyes interview,pre-matchday programme n after game komen...for me he is an honest person...he say what he see n all see on the field...he admits bad games...vs city n wba...he is spot on...while others they only speculate...like zaha news on moyes daughter...we dunno izit really true onot...but there always loophole somewhere for papers to make headline...n social media...if the news is true...i think zaha dun even get bench...he will be out of teamlist or send on loan...n ur source seem a lot of them r tabloid...

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we used to hav 4 striker dont we...remember cole yorke ole teddy...now we hav rvp rooney chica welbz...i dun see any harm...
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thats only happened during SAF era .. now moyes era, he clueless.

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oh come on its clear that rooney and rvp are the two main strikers

later no play rvp oso moan y no play rvp world class 30 goals last season

later no play rooney oso moan y no play rooney player of the month for september

hernandez did get his time, that start against pool followed by west brom, and he will get more time
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thats only happened during SAF era .. now moyes era, he clueless.
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Clueless...the way i see it...he done well...all of them hav quite some minute...in 11 game...chica n danny start twice each...no...most of them struggle to moyes regime...only wazza brace it well...chica lacks off pre-season...due to confederation cup...kagawa as well...welbz get run early on before rooney come to the fore...rvp get held back since derby or maybe pool game...wait i check some stats n support my point...
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people saying Moyes is clueless, they are the ones that clueless..
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You should know by now, United always, always do things the hard way. Well except last season, where they didn't play that well but still won lots of the games

especially against the "big teams" and won the league a month before it ends. brows.gif
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You should know by now, United always, always do things the hard way. Well except last season, where they didn't play that well but still won lots of the games

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thats only happened during SAF era .. now moyes era, he clueless.
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Jack Wilshere has clarified his comments over the FA's potential recruitment of Adnan Januzaj, saying he wishes the Manchester United teenager was English.

The Arsenal midfielder made headlines last week after being pictured smoking a cigarette outside a nightclub.

Wilshere then struck the equaliser for the Gunners in the 1-1 draw at West Brom on Sunday.

When asked about his views on naturalised players representing England he said: "The only people who should play for England are English people."

But he has revealed on Twitter he wished the 18-year-old was English and claims the media have twisted his comments.

Just to clarify a few things....again! Seems to be a trend in this country, poor journalism in my eyes! I wasn't referring to Janujaz...

— Jack Wilshere (@JackWilshere) October 9, 2013
The question was should foreign players be allowed to play for England, and in my opinion I don't think they should! He is a great player...

— Jack Wilshere (@JackWilshere) October 9, 2013
I wish he was English! I'm sure most of you agree with me even if some journalist are trying to make me look bad....again!


— Jack Wilshere (@JackWilshere) October 9, 2013

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so either he kecut liao or the press really twisting his arm.
i've a feeling it is a little bit of both.

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so either he kecut liao or the press really twisting his arm.
i've a feeling it is a little bit of both.
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its always the media...over exaggerate things...twisted...half sentence...look what they do to moyes, roon n rvp early on...the main striker issue...thats why i only take it from the lads himself or the official n reliable source...n i rate wilshere highly talented lads...
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Wayne Rooney believes Everton manager Roberto Martinez is showing English players have the ability to play a more technical brand of football.

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I'm very very sure some people going to start to bash.
They going to say Moyes wasn't even good enough for Everton.
Now with Martinez they're even better.
Things just don't happen with a change of manager and coaches, the Everton owners have done a great job to keep the club stable while Moyes has done very well to keep the club from going the way of Blackburn, Leeds and Bolton. I think Swansea has emulated this stability well which is why they've become a BPL regular.

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Fabio, 23, has fallen behind Patrice Evra and Alexander Buttner as David Moyes’ preferred left-back, while watching his twin brother Rafael get the nod at right-back.

The Brazilian now admits he is considering moving in order to advance his career, with his former club Fluminense a realistic option.

"I don't know. I think the time has come and maybe in the next window or even next season, I think I might leave. There are good possibilities."

"I'm looking for other clubs. There's nothing certain, we'll leave it for later.

"I want to be happy. I want to play, I want to be close to my family. I may go back to Brazil, or maybe not, I'm checking with my manager to see what is the best for me.

"The affection I have for Fluminense is very big, for sure. I played there for seven years, and certainly if I have to go back to Fluminense I'm going with great pride because I have a special affection for them."

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This day is bound to happen.
While rightback we didn't have anyone to really replace Neville when he retired Rafael rose to the challenge and now is a mainstay there.
Fabio has a tough task of trying not only to usurp leftback dynamo Evra but new comer Buttner as well.
Lets grow Alexander Büttner into Giggs role since he is one of the few natural left footers on the team now.
Then we can retain Fabio as Evra's understudy.

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Hernandez has started just one Premier League game this season, the home defeat against West Bromwich Albion last month, and he struggled to make the most of his opportunity at The Hawthorns.

Now it seems his lack of game time is forcing him to ponder his career options, as he expressed his frustration with his progress this season in an interview with U.S. Hispanic TV station Deportes Telemundo.

"I strive for that [to start more games]," said the 25-year-old. "I am working towards earning a spot as a starter. I know that my performance on the pitch will allow me to achieve that goal someday either here [in Manchester] or elsewhere for any other club.

"I just need to be given more opportunities to showcase what I can do, because all of us want to be able to contribute our part so this team can win championships."

sos pepero


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what else do you guys expect? we are the most successful club in England, we just changed our manager for the first time in 26 years, we didn't started well in the league, of course the press will have a field day writing bad stuffs about us, remember the DDG fiasco last season, and how did it ended?

have faith in Moyes guys, if not, at least have faith in SAF for the final time because he chose Moyes as his successor
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Cardiff City manager Malky Mackay will not resign from the South Wales club despite owner Vincent Tan’s shocking decision to replace head of recruitment Iain Moody with a 23-year-old friend of his own son.

The Barclays Premier League new boys are in turmoil this morning after Tan replaced Mackay’s right-hand man – responsible for bringing 25 players to the club – with a young Kazakhstani who was painting walls at the stadium until three months ago.

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Yeah...and you will be more clueless than him when we lift the title at the end of this season..

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off topic but this is really joke of the year.. doh.gif
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don't forget even though the team won the league by a comfortable margin last season, we didnt really played a lot of attractive football as well

finally, its SAF who decided that Moyes is the right guy to succeed him, so is SAF clueless as well since you seems to know that Moyes is clueless?
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Give moyes at least 3 season la..if by then still canot, then it's fair to say bye to him
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what else do you guys expect? we are the most successful club in England, we just changed our manager for the first time in 26 years, we didn't started well in the league, of course the press will have a field day writing bad stuffs about us, remember the DDG fiasco last season, and how did it ended?

have faith in Moyes guys, if not, at least have faith in SAF for the final time because he chose Moyes as his successor
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David Moyes... just play Kagawa behind Rooney... ok???
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...Van-Persie.html

‘The training is different. There’s a different style and thinking he wants us to play. ‘It’s a mixture of things but I’m happy and enjoying my football. Hopefully that can continue.
‘We’ve done a lot of different types of training — a lot more longer running, quicker running and sharper running and I feel that’s really benefited me. I feel as fit as I’ve ever done.
‘I had a couple of injuries pre-season, but I feel great and in good shape.’


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QUOTE(hocksoo @ Oct 10 2013, 04:46 PM)
David Moyes... just play Kagawa behind Rooney... ok???
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This would be the most sensible choice
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so either he kecut liao or the press really twisting his arm.
i've a feeling it is a little bit of both.
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It is always known that these journalist likes to twist stories, misquote them to sell the papers. Jack on the other hand, is digging his own grave as well. Why would he comment on such sensitive issue? Who is he to come up and say that 'England is for English' regardless of how it sounds on the papers. Probably a slap in the face and a good lesson for him.
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Kagawa plays behind the two since everone else that Moyes played in that position not doing their job
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yeah agree...carrick himself can handle the defensive job in the midfield...he can do everything

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If januzaj leaves for juventus... what will you guys do?

http://talksport.com/football/man-united-w...nce-13101063516
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If januzaj leaves for juventus... what will you guys do?

http://talksport.com/football/man-united-w...nce-13101063516
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If januzaj leaves for juventus... what will you guys do?

http://talksport.com/football/man-united-w...nce-13101063516
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that speech sounds familiar  hmm.gif


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If januzaj leaves for juventus... what will you guys do?

http://talksport.com/football/man-united-w...nce-13101063516
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...Van-Persie.html

‘The training is different. There’s a different style and thinking he wants us to play. ‘It’s a mixture of things but I’m happy and enjoying my football. Hopefully that can continue.
‘We’ve done a lot of different types of training — a lot more longer running, quicker running and sharper running and I feel that’s really benefited me. I feel as fit as I’ve ever done.
‘I had a couple of injuries pre-season, but I feel great and in good shape.’
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fucuk DM daughter, beat his mother, burn his house, eat char kway teow.
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http://www.givemesport.com/389348-chelsea-...transfer-chance

Seriously i want to blame sir alex... but I can't because he has done so much for the club... i'll be pissed if he went to arsenal or chelsea or even city..
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Play 2 upfront RVP and Rooney
Kagawa plays behind the two since everone else that Moyes played in that position not doing their job
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Fernandez?
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Pogba, Morrison, Janujaz

Some interesting article about the three precocious talents that have played for youth team recently.
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Last season RVP scored 30 goals which was the main reason why we won the BPL last season. RVP + rooney will be the first choice of strikers upfront. No reason to drop both of them or either for kagawa especially we are not in a good position now. Kagawa will either play left-wing or wait for CC/fa cup to get to play his fav position. Feel sorry for chicarito and kagawa cry.gif

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We have not seem a lot of Kagawa + Rooney... who know they won't score 50+?
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We have not seem a lot of Kagawa + Rooney... who know they won't score 50+?
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Pogba, Morrison, Janujaz

Some interesting article about the three precocious talents that have played for youth team recently.
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We have not seem a lot of Kagawa + Rooney... who know they won't score 50+?
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That is a very big what if. What if RvN had stayed? What if Stam had stayed? What if Cantona had stayed? What if Ince had stayed? What if Kanchelskis had stayed? What if Sharpe had stayed? In life, there will always be many what ifs.

It is pointless to try deal with every what if. We can only focus on the facts. The fact is, RvP and Rooney are our two best strikers. It is only logical that we try to make the maximum use of our two best strikers. They also worked together last season, after all. Not to mention, Moyes' favoured formation for now seems to be a variation of 4-4-2 (maybe due to advice from SAF? Or because Moyes felt the team is more familiar with 4-4-2 because SAF built and played the team as 4-4-2? Who knows?).

The coaches see all the players in training everyday. They are in a better position to make a decision than we ever will. They also know much more about football than any of us will ever do in our lifetime. If they choose to do something, personally, I feel it I ought to trust them to have a good reason for doing so.

Who knows? Maybe you're right. Maybe they will score 50 goals. But the coaches seems to have a reason for not doing that now. And in life, that's all we can do to deal with the uncertainties. Analyse the situation and deal with it accordingly for whatever reasons we happen to see fit.
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who knows kagawa + welbeck wont score 100+? tongue.gif
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Who knows bebe alone 100+?
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.........................De Gea....................

......Smalling......Jones........Evans.....

.......................Carrick........................

Nani............................................Evra

..................Fellaini...Januzji...............

..............RVP..................Rooney.......


Sorry.. I dont like kagawa..
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QUOTE(David Moyes @ Oct 11 2013, 07:10 PM)
.........................De Gea....................

......Smalling......Jones........Evans.....

.......................Carrick........................

Nani............................................Evra

..................Fellaini...Januzji...............

..............RVP..................Rooney.......
Sorry.. I dont like kagawa..
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Cleverley complained of a sore calf after training on Thursday afternoon and had a scan later that day.

Following the results the England medical team confirmed he would miss the upcoming two matches and he has returned to his club for further treatment.


http://www.thefa.com/england/News/2013/wor...erley-ruled-out
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QUOTE(David Moyes @ Oct 11 2013, 07:10 PM)
.........................De Gea....................

......Smalling......Jones........Evans.....

.......................Carrick........................

Nani............................................Evra

..................Fellaini...Januzji...............

..............RVP..................Rooney.......
Sorry.. I dont like kagawa..
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No. 7 England played very well ! Need winger like that. Moyes sign him up !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andros_Townsend
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townsend? no thanks. looks like a typical modern winger that can be found anywhere. plus being an english and from spuds somemore.. i'll pass.
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No. 7 England played very well ! Need winger like that. Moyes sign him up !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andros_Townsend
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No. 11 also played very well. He got involved for the first 3 goals. rclxms.gif
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Any left wingers on the pitch is better than Young owai
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http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1580912/...y-marca?cc=3436

oh Levy you Jinius! tongue.gif tau ada masalah, stall them and let them wait, sells at record price, and UNVEIL problem! ur plobelem now bro! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(benrahman @ Oct 12 2013, 09:37 AM)
No. 11 also played very well. He got involved for the first 3 goals.  rclxms.gif
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Young is just not the young he was with aston villa anymore..

Wow, Juventus taunts us saying they will sign januzaj and vidic. \WTF
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no bra day no bra day.... drool.gif drool.gif brows.gif brows.gif
our nx match is wen ah??? this coming weekend is it??? midweek still got internationals???
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no bra day no bra day....  drool.gif  drool.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
our nx match is wen ah??? this coming weekend is it??? midweek still got internationals???
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scary southampton, Boruc is on high form. hope we'll do well. RVP and roo did well in international so that's a good start smile.gif
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scary southampton, Boruc is on high form. hope we'll do well. RVP and roo did well in international so that's a good start smile.gif
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West Ham make a £25,000 payment to Manchester United every time the midfielder makes a first-team appearance - but Sam Allardyce is petrified the champions will try and buy his new star back.
The Hammers agreed the installment arrangement as part of the complicated transfer that sent Morrison to Upton Park last year on top of the initial £650,000 fee.

Now West Ham want to offer the England Under 21 international, who has 18 months left on his present deal, an improved contract in January should he continue to blossom under boss Allardyce, reports the Sunday Telegraph.
As far as Allardyce knows there was no buy-back clause giving United first option engineered in the 19-year-old's deal, but he remains wary that David Moyes will want the reformed youngster back.
'I don't know if there is a buy-back clause and what that figure might be even if it exists,' he told the Sunday People. 'But my real big worry is that Manchester United will come back to buy him.

'Look at what happened when Chris Smalling played a handful of games for Fulham - United jumped in with £10 million. Then there was Phil Jones when I was at Blackburn - that's what you are up against.'
There is also believed to be a complicated release clause in Morrison's current contract which amounts to more than £20million. West Ham will also want that quickly renegotiated for the attacking midfielder.
Morrison has so far made eight appearances this season – triggering payments of £200,000 to United – having spent the previous campaign on loan at Birmingham City.

When Sir Alex Ferguson decided to sell Morrison in January of last year, a £3m fee was discussed with West Ham, who were then in the Championship.
But the London club eventually paid a fraction of the figure that was initially demanded upfront and instead agreed to pay United per game.
Ferguson's friendship with Allardyce helped West Ham to secure the deal.


Don't worry Sam, Ravel may be a good player. But his character and attitude is what drove him out of the club before, Moyes is a no-nonsense manager, so you can rest easy wink.gif


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Newcastle want Zaha (loan)

but i hope we loan to smaller club (like his old club, CP). or better, sell Young.
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seriously if DM don't have any intention to play Kagawa this season, he should leave in January transfer window. Kagawa need to play man.

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QUOTE(roytomas8998 @ Oct 14 2013, 12:11 PM)
seriously if DM don't have any intention to play Kagawa this season, he should leave in January transfer window. Kagawa need to play man.

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that is the risk of joining the big clubs. they always have a lot of star players. so even if kagawa goes to other places like real madrid, barcelona, PSG, he might not get to play every match.

so hopefully he can prove to DM that he is good enuf to be in the first 11. if he cannot do that, then he go mana also same case unless u r talking about less popular clubs with not so many star players (but doesnt mean they wont win or they are not good enuf. in fact quite a number of such clubs can play very well as ateam)

i like kagawa. i like to see him become successful in our club. but this is how it works everywhere. u hv to fight for ur place...and in this club, he has to fight an in-form rooney or our top striker RVP in order to get his preferred position (which is behind the main striker). either tat or DM has to change formation and dont play 2 central midfielder.
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QUOTE(daydreaming @ Oct 14 2013, 12:54 PM)
that is the risk of joining the big clubs. they always have a lot of star players. so even if kagawa goes to other places like real madrid, barcelona, PSG, he might not get to play every match.

so hopefully he can prove to DM that he is good enuf to be in the first 11. if he cannot do that, then he go mana also same case unless u r talking about less popular clubs with not so many star players (but doesnt mean they wont win or they are not good enuf. in fact quite a number of such clubs can play very well as ateam)

i like kagawa. i like to see him become successful in our club. but this is how it works everywhere. u hv to fight for ur place...and in this club, he has to fight an in-form rooney or our top striker RVP in order to get his preferred position (which is behind the main striker). either tat or DM has to change formation and dont play 2 central midfielder.
such a pity that we have Kagawa but can't fully utilize his talent. sad.gif
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people slowly start to recognise carrick's value to the team rclxms.gif

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It was noticeable that England's creativity increased once Michael Carrick replaced Lampard. The game might have become more open as Montenegro chased an equaliser, but the passes that found Rooney, Townsend, Danny Welbeck and Daniel Sturridge were noticeably crisper than before.


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Jack Wilshere may be in rather lacklustre club form but can surely provide the energy and mileage that his senior colleagues no longer can. And there is little doubt about what Carrick consistently brings to the party: a calm and precision that neither Lampard nor Gerrard offered enough of against Montenegro. Either, or both, have to start on Tuesday.

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But ski-hardcores will argue likewise. Lel. Inb4 Lampard > all CM in Engrand.
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Sir Alex Ferguson was awarded the Honorary Freedom of the Borough of Trafford at a ceremony on Monday afternoon.
The local authority have also renamed a road leading to Old Trafford from Water's Reach to Sir Alex Ferguson Way.
The former Manchester United manager has been recognised for his achievements with the club between 1986 and 2013 - a period in which he won 38 trophies.


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Introducing.. Sir Alex Ferguson Way
why the guy like not happy?
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QUOTE(roytomas8998 @ Oct 14 2013, 10:43 PM)
why the guy like not happy?
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I wanted to comment on his face too but chose not to. rolleyes.gif
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I wanted to comment on his face too but chose not to.  rolleyes.gif
his looks reminds me of my ex-boss. biggrin.gif
but of course, he smile better than this guy.

so he's the councillor la..sud be happy mah.
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Wait pool gerard join in the fun
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i hate stevie G and lampard at england
they think no one can replace their position at CM
lampard macam safiq copot yo
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Gerrard boleh la..
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Happy for him but expect a tiring summer next year

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Carrick is ready to take centre-stage for England at Brazil 2014

There is a void in Michael Carrick’s career, an issue that continues to vex him. It is called the World Cup.

Carrick, with five Barclays  Premier League titles and a Champions League winner’s medal, has made just one appearance at the biggest tournament in football.

In 239 days’ time, when the World Cup finals start in Sao Paulo,  Carrick can set the record straight on his international career.

The momentum is with him after he was picked to play in England’s final qualifier against Poland last night. Like his passing game, he has had to be patient.

England won and Carrick, who played his part in the move for Wayne Rooney’s opening goal, is on his way to another World Cup. This time he has to leave an impression.

Sitting snugly alongside skipper Steven Gerrard in the centre of England’s midfield, Carrick did everything you would expect of a player who had 123 touches in his last start for Manchester United.

That was against Sunderland at the Stadium of Light when Adnan Januzaj stole the show, but the unseen work all came from Carrick.

England’s head coach made a mental note of his contribution and his selection in the final game in Group H was the end result.

His passing was immaculate, his all-round game barely wavering from the seven-out-of-10 performances he has delivered for the past seven seasons at Old Trafford.

He worked the angles, keeping the ball moving as England worked the openings across Poland’s stretched midfield. The England man was always available, dropping off Adrian Mierzejewski and captain Jakub Blaszczykowski to receive the ball in any situation.

That’s his game and at the age of 32 he isn’t about to make any radical changes. It’s too late for that.

He did what was asked of him by keeping it simple, fizzing the ball into the feet of Andros Townsend and Danny Welbeck on England’s flanks. It was sensible and instructive.

The selection pendulum has swung his way, picked to play ahead of a man with 101 England appearances to his name.

Frank Lampard missed out, left on the bench until he was called to replaced Carrick’s tiring legs with 20 minutes left on the clock. By then he had done his job, earning a standing ovation from England’s fans as he high-fived Gerrard on his way towards the touchline.

It was a decent night’s work, an effective performance from a player who has spent too long in isolation at international level.

He began his career with England in 2001 in a friendly against Mexico, but has never been able to break the stranglehold that exists in midfield.

At the 2006 World Cup in Germany he was restricted to a solitary start in a second round clash with Ecuador which England won 1-0.

Four years later he spent weeks in isolation at Camp Capello in Rustenburg and failed to make a single appearance in South Africa.

Group games against the USA, Algeria and Slovenia passed him by and he didn’t get a kick in the 4-1 defeat against Germany in Bloemfontein in the second round.

After that he was done with making up the numbers, heading into international hibernation after another disastrous World Cup.

Hodgson approached him on a peace-keeping mission after Euro 2012, promising him some playing time as they ploughed through this group. It worked.

Carrick craves the chance to play for England, properly, as a first-choice central midfielder at a World Cup finals.

Last night Hodgson wiped the slate clean, calling him into the team to keep England in control and maintain composure at Wembley.

It’s the reason he was voted player of the year at Old Trafford and selected by fellow professionals in the team of the year for the first time last season.

He is easy on the eye, blessed with a sweet first touch and the confidence to play one-touch passes into the feet of team-mates.

Last night he did enough to justify the decision, hovering in front of England’s back four and helping to start their almost ceaseless attacks.

At the World Cup next summer, Carrick has the chance to make a lasting impression.

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Carrick played well against the Poles. Not to be bias because he is a United player but Carrick is so underrated. Carrick proved to everyone tonight why he should dethrone Lampard in next year's WC. Sure Lampard is a good player but lets not forget that he is aging fast, lacking pace and his passing is not as sleek as Carrick's.

Last night's pairing of Carrick and Gerrard proved that these two can click well. Baines should dethrone Cole too, a menace going forward and dangerous crossings+set pieces.
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QUOTE(dEviLs @ Oct 16 2013, 12:27 PM)
Happy for him but expect a tiring summer next year
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Carrick works best with an engine/dynamo/enforcer beside him.
Gerard does it quite well in the last game.
Poland isn't an easy team to play against but in WC there will be even tougher opponents
Carrick, Gerard and Lampard don't have another WC in them, it is either Brazil or bust.
The next WC might see the rise of Wilshere but his game is different from the 3 seniors, but the most worrying part is like Carrick is that if Wilshere doesn't get a good partner he might not be able to shine in the circus of England team.

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Carrick works best with an engine/dynamo/enforcer beside him.
Gerard does it quite well in the last game.
Poland isn't an easy team to play against but in WC there will be even tougher opponents
Carrick, Gerard and Lampard don't have another WC in them, it is either Brazil or bust.
The next WC might see the rise of Wilshere but his game is different from the 3 seniors, but the most worrying part is like Carrick is that if Wilshere doesn't get a good partner he might not be able to shine in the circus of England team.
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carrick works well because gerrard and lampard are too similiar....
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i hope carrick + rio retire frm inguland aftr WC 2014. let other "supastars" play

mu > inguland.
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i hope carrick + rio retire frm inguland aftr WC 2014. let other "supastars" play
mu > inguland.
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looking at their current age of Carrick, Gerrard and Lampard it looks like they should retire from international football after WC 2014.
probably the mantle after that should be taken by Wilshere and Clev, infact england is too reliant on "big name" players they always can't produce good players because no chance is given.

rio actually should retire sometime back but he has his ego and a bone to pick with the management setup for england.
i do hope he puts it all behind him and focus on the club, we don't want him to burn himself out like fletch.
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But when during WC that time,media sure pressure Uncle Roy to pair Gerrard + Lampard as the CM and will continue fail miserably. whistling.gif
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But when during WC that time,media sure pressure Uncle Roy to pair Gerrard + Lampard as the CM and will continue fail miserably.  whistling.gif
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because stats don't matter.
big name > everything else

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because stats don't matter.
big name > everything else

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Henderson? Seriously?  doh.gif
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like sinoffire would say, "henderson > jerat". laugh.gif
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b**** pls... Sinoffire 1 - 0 jerat + Henderson.
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Plus he's better at diving scoring goals than Young. rolleyes.gif

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b**** pls... Sinoffire 1 - 0 jerat + Henderson.
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Mind you, Man Utd do not buy a fucuk'ed mental-illed zombie
nvm put him in mental hospital n after that sure ok wan.

Suarez, oh Suarez, even RM want to buy him.
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Wish we can get Ravel back, he's a huge talent and the move to West Ham is good for him.

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zaha and morrison fight
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is that Owen hargreves and david james after the vid? OH cannot get a club? or he already retired? please pardon me, didnt follow on his news.
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QUOTE(roytomas8998 @ Oct 17 2013, 10:19 AM)
Eh, why dont we buy Suarez?  brows.gif  icon_idea.gif

Plus he's better at diving scoring goals than Young.  rolleyes.gif

Ops I did it again!
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yet young is almost same price tag with suarez when first come in... but suarez is now 40m player but young? 20m? 10m? 5m? 1m ? 5$? hahaha
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lol moyes saying zaha is in a learning process now, next pogba? hope not.

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QUOTE(MutaFuka1992 @ Oct 17 2013, 11:39 PM)
yet young is almost same price tag with suarez when first come in... but suarez is now 40m player  but young? 20m? 10m? 5m? 1m ? 5$? hahaha
Ashley Young market value. tongue.gif

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Young worth £82m, says Manager (2009 news) laugh.gif
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Wish we can get Ravel back, he's a huge talent and the move to West Ham is good for him.
Would gladly trade Young/Ando plus cash for him.
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united is no place for bad attitude players.
you regret we offloaded tevez?
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He has since scored only three goals for United, though. Last season, he failed to net in a 17-game loan spell at Stuttgart and is now on loan at Championship side Doncaster - scoring three goals in his first five games
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united is no place for bad attitude players.
you regret we offloaded tevez?
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No bad attitude can beat this or Keano's


Which ended his career lel laugh.gif

But Morrison, no way. Moyes is a disciplinarian like SAF thumbup.gif
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No bad attitude can beat this or Keano's


Which ended his career lel  laugh.gif

But Morrison, no way. Moyes is a disciplinarian like SAF  thumbup.gif
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Cantona and Keano were hot heads but they were loyal to the manager and club, and of course they were astronomically talented.

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QUOTE(zenix @ Oct 18 2013, 02:17 PM)
Cantona and Keano were hot heads but they were loyal to the manager and club, and of course they were astronomically talented.

Can't compare a Daihatsu Detomaso to a Renault Megane RS250 my friend  laugh.gif
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True but Morrison is also very talented, for such a tender age. Speaking of loyalty, it doesn't seem to exist amongst modern day footballers anymore. sweat.gif
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Keano said that he was out looking for blood during that game plus it was a Manchester City player.

If Morrison goes on to bag around 5-10 assist or goal in total for the season. That would really show his worth. Moyes seems to be interested in Ross Barkley, one of the kids he brought through Everton


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still an early days though. if we can string 5 or 6 wins together beginning tonight match, the top are in our reach. its marathon, not a sprint race.
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Antonio valencia is going to brazil in 2014! Chicarito and team have a playoff to play tho...i expect mexico is to make to the finals as well tho.
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Antonio valencia is going to brazil in 2014! Chicarito and team have a playoff to play tho...i expect mexico is to make to the finals as well tho.
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QUOTE(zenix @ Oct 18 2013, 02:17 PM)
Cantona and Keano were hot heads but they were loyal to the manager and club, and of course they were astronomically talented.

Can't compare a Daihatsu Detomaso to a Renault Megane RS250 my friend  laugh.gif
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i hear Renault Megane RS250!! you sir, got taste thumbup.gif
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De Gea, Rafael, Jones, Evans, Evra, Carrick, Fellaini, Rooney, Nani, Januzaj, RVP.

Bench: Lindegaard, Giggs, Smalling, Hernandez, Welbeck, Kagawa, Zaha.

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De Gea, Rafael, Jones, Evans, Evra, Carrick, Fellaini, Rooney, Nani, Januzaj, RVP.

Bench, Lindegaard, Giggs, Smalling, Hernandez, Welbeck, Kagawa, Zaha.
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for home game no need to play fellaini and carrick together, maybe can play 1 more creative midfield
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Good time for him to start banging goals for us again flex.gif

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jones and evans together..this is good..time to pass the baton to younger players..rio and vida have past their prime already
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januzaj pass is inhuman... an 18 year old having such vision..

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omgosh januzaj long pass remind me of scholes...
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omgosh januzaj long pass remind me of scholes...
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i think that is what kagawa lacking of rite now..
desway moyes prefer him over kagawa.
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Nervy first half. Nani seems a better fit on right, more than Valencia. Januzaj has that vision, and passing that we craved. Hope for a clean sheet, Soton closing down hard on the players, needs a faster passing game to counter.
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i thought he's injured. no?
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still need a couple goal to be safe.good game at the start and moving to slow pace.

well organize by southampton
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Fellaini is ineffective today..disappointing to see he has only been an average player for us so far..
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Fellaini is ineffective today..disappointing to see he has only been an average player for us so far..
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y giggs instead of kagawa doh.gif

i think rooney should be subbed
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I pity the likes of kagawa and chicharito after fergie left...so little chance to prove themselves
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to keep kagawa in bench n play old giggs instead is crime against football....wtf moyes...
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Rooney keep loosing the ball. Please bring kagawa in!!

What the heck giggs play in right wing??!!
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wellbeck in??? dafuq moyes....keep playing inferior player on field n keep better player on bench...i really pity chicarito n kagawa...
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moyes really stupid lah ...
totally clueless about his own players...


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this is what happen when u put better player on bench...n play inferior player instead...
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in b4 "true fan" defend moyes...
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The never say die attitude is already gone.

Welbeck as usual is crap. No other word to describe. I just can't back him up even though he is a mancunian. He could have pass to Rooney to kill the game but he wasted the few second for the Southampton player have time to tackle him.

I just hope we could nick to win this in extra time.
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Usually at this time MU sure attack gaogao get winning goal, nowadays we jus happy if didn't lose.
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nowonder he doesn't win anything... he dont even know how to protect the lead.... pls
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Seriously, i dunno why he dun wan play kagawa. Now he is fit, what is the fking reason?
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QUOTE(damnself @ Oct 19 2013, 11:49 PM)
The never say die attitude is already gone.

Welbeck as usual is crap. No other word to describe. I just can't back him up even though he is a mancunian. He could have pass to Rooney to kill the game but he wasted the few second for the Southampton player have time to tackle him.

I just hope we could nick to win this in extra time.
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hopefully after this moyes will play giggs n welbeck in every game for full 90 mins..

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Moyes and his coaching team bunch of idiots really. He got all the sub wrong. Welback? Wtf
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i tell u what...the stupid substitution cost United 2 point
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poor substitution cost us this game.too bad.

moyes needs to rethink about proper substitution.and I still believe he will get it right
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moyes is monyet lah ..
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dont know why but i feel welbeck suddenly becomes useless when he dons the united jersey
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Wait so long for international break, now need to suffer late equalizer, fark u moyes
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total disappointment.

why man utd were not in their usual pace, they played at home turf. just 1-0 isnt guarantee a win.

easily lost posession, like previous game.
no pace, static play only, no dynamic and width style as they usually do.
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Everytime i watch welbeck, he is very clumsy...
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Just give me a good footballing reason why is that Kagawa and Chicharito got no chance at all in showing their talent.

They are both world class. Give me a break guys. Urghhh. Come January or next summer, both will be gone already.....
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clueless manager..
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so much for patience.bwahaha

calm down.it's moyes fault no doubt, there is long way to go

great job southampton.
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#meltdown

#moyesout

#welbeckout

#giggsout

#freekagawa

#COYG

#YNWA
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Its very worrying the way we play under moyes. The results suck but more importantly we are playing like a mid table team wit players of 2013 champions. I cant brain this
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Hail moyes....getting a point at old trafford is priceless for him..except for the fact that his no longer with Everton...
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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Oct 19 2013, 11:59 PM)
#meltdown

#moyesout

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#freekagawa

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even old trafford crowd boo moyes....
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SAF make a big mistake ....
from a big team with full of talented players, but now almost gone
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clueless... now I understand why everton doesn't win anything... alll talks but no action that is what moyes is..
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#meltdown

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i hope kagawa and hernandez will leave soon. It's a big loss for Man Utd, but it's more disheartening to see these two great players marginalised under moyes...
otherwise, kick moyes out...this man is dragging man utd down and making it into mediocre team
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Want to faint already.. players will boycott Moyes soon. Lol
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No Kagawa and Hernandez..?just want to protect the lead instead scoring more..no fighting spirit..Difficult early fixtures can be be forgiven but not winning against WBA and Soton..this is too much for fans
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QUOTE(lok3i @ Oct 20 2013, 12:03 AM)
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where is that overrated and overhype Januzaj?

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QUOTE(legendofhafiz @ Oct 20 2013, 12:04 AM)
how can he be overrated when this is his 2nd start?
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coz after 1 superb game against the lowest and managerless club already called the next Ronaldo and etc....
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actually this kind of performance is mediocre and always happen under fergie. but somehow fergie will hold on with 1-0 or come up with 2-1 even if equalised

under moyes... always drop point! really cant brain the sub choice
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where is that overrated and overhype Januzaj?

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no wonder everton getting better after moyes left that team...
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QUOTE(lok3i @ Oct 20 2013, 12:06 AM)
coz after 1 superb game against the lowest and managerless club already called the next Ronaldo and etc....
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only for overexcited supporters.nothing wrong with that

for me personally, he is very exciting talent but still long way to go.

is it wrong? so piss off
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monyet said he need 5-6 world class players to win CL .... but with this kind on tactic & attitude, surely nobody will come
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Januzaj is a good talent. A big one for the future. Its the way we play collectively as a team thats worrying. Southampton is like the home team today against the champions. Disappointing.
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monyet said he need 5-6 world class players to win CL .... but with this kind on tactic & attitude, surely nobody will come
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if indeed the team has 5-6 world class players, they will be sitting on the bench with welbeck, young, giggs and smalling playing instead
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we are 8 points behind... how bad can it be....
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I hope we actually lose to Sunderland last match, if not miracle performance by januzaj.

everything is not right since monyet take over, transfer, preseason, sub etc.


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QUOTE(lok3i @ Oct 20 2013, 12:03 AM)
Andddddddddddd
where is that overrated and overhype Januzaj?

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Januzaj had a decent game really. Well, for the first half at most.

What irks me is that negative approach which DM decided to bring in Smalling for Rooney. If Hernandez for Rooney I dont mind, but another defender? Giggs is fine, he contributed but Welback was just another disappointment. To hold a 1 goal lead is damn right risky, never the best approach. Which unfortunately David decided to take that risk and backfired.

Man of the match should be given to Evans. Played his heart out in the absence of Vidic but credits should be given to Rooney as well. A game that should be won, should've. Such a disappointment.

Fellaini on the other hand, seems lost. Losing possession, poor passing and shooting. Needs to get his act together if he wants to stay at OT long.


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QUOTE(legendofhafiz @ Oct 20 2013, 12:07 AM)
only for overexcited supporters.nothing wrong with that

for me personally, he is very exciting talent but still long way to go.

is it wrong? so piss off
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cant brain y sub in smalling n push jones for midfield toward end of the game.
totally disrupted the defensive line.
tis kind of game shud built up goal avantage n sub out v.persie n carrick for them to rest before champion league next week.
doubt whether can see manutd in champion league next year if cont like tis.
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again and again welbeck proved to be rubbish ..why is he still there...
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again and again welbeck proved to be rubbish ..why is he still there...
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wrong sub ,feeling deja vu,likes vs wes brom.. mujo x kalah
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Credits to ponchetti, his tactics and influence on sot since his arrival ...

Lallana and wanyama was great throughout the game. Afro, not so much, but don't understand why he was replaced with an attacker.....

Havent heard old trafford so quiet during a game and so loud boos after that. Not even the citeh mauling...

Don't understand the results, a manager comes in to improve the team, not turn it upside down...
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Well i c welbeck wit so much space in front of him already kinda knew wuts gonna happen. Nothing. We have seen it over over again. Evans proved that he shud be first choice today
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Waiting 2 weeks for watching only draw..very nice
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someone should have helped de gea during that corner.. the southampton guy basically stepped in front of him and stop him from doing anything
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It's a home game and he should have went for it.
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i dont get the subs
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Guys, Arsenal fan here. I believe part of the issue belongs to Sir Alex. He left an old team for his successor. I think Sir Alex really squeezed the most out of this team. Afterall he still depended on Paul Scholes until his old age, and until now ,Ryan Giggs.
The other issue is David Moyes did not come with a very good credentials or winning record - so all the prima donnas in the team don't respect him.
Lastly, David Moyes is good at developing young players, but he does not know much about players outside the UK.
What should Man U do? I think they are in danger of not making it to the CL next year. But with their mega profits , I think they can afford not to be in the CL for one season. Give David Moyes time.
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The whole world can't brain this moyes... I can't believe i tried defending him over my friends.. now im like a fool...
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Following a poor pre-season we've had a poor start. The signing of Fellaini set the tone: £27.5 million for such an average player when Monaco picked up an infinitely better centre midfielder in Joao Moutinho for £20 million announced the direction of travel. The fact Moyes thinks Fellaini is good enough for Man Utd shows his mentality isn't right.

His tactics and subs, not only today, but all season have been both confusing and, to my eyes, just wrong. Nani did nothing to warrant being subbed and was one of our main attacking threats. Removing him gave relief to Southampton and replacing him with Giggs unbalanced the XI. It seems that Moyes has some players he trusts and some he just doesn't. Nani like, for example, Chicharito or Kagawa seem to be in the do not trust box. If they play very well or have match changing performances they get game time but the second they aren't doing something totally unreal they get subbed. All the while other players can be consistently below par and still get selected...

Southampton came onto us but instead of fighting fire with fire and attempting to restore our attacking balance Moyes retreated. It was no shock when Southampton scored. We invited them to attack us after all, nai? Just as we have invited other teams on to us with negative selections and unwillingness to take risks.

Moyes says he needs 18 months to turn the team into his side. I'm baffled as to what that side will look like. I see no vision, no plan, no real philosophy. Just fear.

I dare to say player has lost confidence with him

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The whole world can't brain this moyes... I can't believe i tried defending him over my friends.. now im like a fool...
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What was moyes and gang thinking?
struggling to keep the ball the whole night, then took out Nani, and I had the shock of my life when i saw Uncle Giggs. Why Why Why?
And Uncle Giggs playing right wing?

Fellaini, what was he doing on the pitch?

Just 1 goal up, and Moyes and gang decided to play defensive. put Smalling?
And left Kagawa rotting on the bench?

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QUOTE(ashportal @ Oct 19 2013, 11:56 PM)
Wait so long for international break, now need to suffer late equalizer, fark u moyes
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I cant even pount out where exactly is our problem..the whole team was painful to watch..evans and carrick was very composed though...
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Did you see SAF's face when the visitors equalised? HAHAHAHA!!!
He must be thinking...."Oh Sheet! What did I do? Why did I choose Moyes?"

Yeah yeah, some will say, it's still early into the season, give Moyes more time, etc etc etc.
But after seeing his decision making in today's game, what do you think? We should be lucky if we don't fall into the bottom three by December.


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Seriously, i dunno why he dun wan play kagawa. Now he is fit, what is the fking reason?
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No. the serious question should be why he wants to play Uncle Giggs in this game? Nani was giving the SH defenders a hard time, why took out Nani?

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why the stadium playing the song... we didnt even win..disgrace!!!
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"true fan" only exits in MUST thread...even fan that booo the team even though they attend every games at old trafford is lalang according to them.. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Nasri8 @ Oct 20 2013, 12:35 AM)
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QUOTE(aztechx @ Oct 20 2013, 12:36 AM)
I cant even pount out where exactly is our problem..the whole team was painful to watch..evans and carrick was very composed though...
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I think is lack of Ferguson's aura or backroom staff aura? When SAF still in charge,if the game was drew or lose, eventually next game we will bounce back and sweep perhaps 2-0 or 3-0 or 3-1 score. Now what we lack is this kind of aura from the manager or backroom staff. I still stand strong that letting the few key backroom staff leave is most crucial/wrong decision we made for this season.

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Moyes brought typical Everton Football and mentality to United.
Look how Everton is thriving now when Monyet not there
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monyet said he need 5-6 world class players to win CL .... but with this kind on tactic & attitude, surely nobody will come
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Is he blind or what?
He already has 5-6 world class players to win the CL.....and they are sitting on the bench!
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I use to find myself waking up early in the morning or skipping class middle of the day to watch United play till the cos they were worth watching till the end. Now, ever since Moyes took over, I slowly stopped staying till the end. I wonder how long before I stopped watching a full game before I support the team from a livescore app.

It is really sad.
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when u prefer Everton ex-captain as the first team coach than world class Rene Meulensteen.. this kind of performance is normal laugh.gif

Wanyama was awesome though, what a beast..
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now we can actually see what kind of true united fan is all about...
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Oct 20 2013, 12:50 AM)
I think is lack of Ferguson's aura or backroom staff aura? When SAF still in charge,if the game was drew or lose, eventually next game we will bounce back and sweep perhaps 2-0 or 3-0 or 3-1 score. Now what we lack is this kind of aura from the manager or backroom staff. I still stand strong that letting the few key backroom staff leave is most crucial/wrong decision we made for this season.
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Possible ..since i also expected them to buck up after the first half. being so used to see us play a different tune everytime we perform badly in the first half under fergie.

And just maybe, we lack a player with a 'captain material' to lead the team. I seriously pity kagawa and chicharito who doesnt look lie they'll ever get a decent chance to prove themselves to moyes
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QUOTE(aztechx @ Oct 20 2013, 01:26 AM)
Possible ..since i also expected them to buck up after the first half. being so used to see us play a different tune everytime we perform badly in the first half under fergie.

And just maybe, we lack a player with a 'captain material' to lead the team. I seriously pity kagawa and chicharito who doesnt look lie they'll ever get a decent chance to prove themselves to moyes
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That why with the experience and winning mentality backroom staff, even when SAF still in charge, probably no need him to talk much to motivate/inspire the team, they know the stake or maybe consequence if they can't win the game (probably kena scold kaw kaw or another day training like hell laugh.gif ).

I agree that humans work best with the people they familiar/worked before. But if things ain't broken,why fix it? It's not like our backroom staff got lot of problem and need revamp. Even Pellegrini bring his own assistant manager, he still retain Brian Kidd as assistant manager and FYI MC now have 2 assistant manager. This is because no one else know the club better than the old staff except the ex manager. I happy to see Phil Neville in our coaching team,but him over Rene? A big no for me,at least not for the time being. He can slowly start as coach,to gain few years experience. When the time come/ Rene leave in one day,promote him by that time also no late?

Agree on most of the fans here,if Moyes don't plan to play much Chicharito and Kagawa,please let them go in Jan. World cup is just around the corner and such a waste if both of them keep sit on the bench and limited their playing times which eventually damage the chance they being selected into the national team.
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Januzaj set up our goal with a great pass to Rooney, and looked decent most of the game. Overrated? Only if you expect him to score or impact every game the way he did his debut.

Evans actually looked pretty good until the corner where we conceded.

The substitutions were a bit shocking though.

Rooney off was okay enough, he was looking tired at that point and losing the ball
Fellaini off was also fine, he actually struggled a lot this game. Not the tidy performance that he gave on his debut.
Nani off was a bit surprising, since he provided a decent threat... but then again the referee was not giving him anything when fouled.

But the guys chosen to come on..
Giggs = Wow.. the guy is almost 40, bringing him on to play on the right wing then moving him to CM is asking for a lot when the opponents are physical and aggressive in midfield like Southampton were. He can still do a job in European games and versus teams with a weaker or more passive midfield, or as a #10 maybe... but playing him in CM in the EPL seems like a risky or poor choice.
Smalling = I totally do not understand this. At first I thought he was planning to move Rafael further up to attack even more and play Smalling as a RB, but moving Jones to midfield..... Southampton are not Real Madrid. This smacked of being overly defensive.
Welbeck = Even more surprising. Southampton were aggressive and trying to close us down quickly, why bring on Welbeck (who isn't the most consistent when it comes to playing tight passes at speed). Especially bringing him on to play as a winger. Holy cow, surely we have other options........

Hernandez and Kagawa would have given movement and faster passing, which would have allowed us to handle Southampton better. Surprised that neither Vidic/Ferdinand was even on the bench, considering they had 2 weeks of internationals to work on fitness and prepare. Lambert and Osvaldo are both big guys, Vidic would have provided a physical and experienced head in the CB role alongside Evans.




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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Oct 20 2013, 01:37 AM)
That why with the experience and winning mentality backroom staff, even when SAF still in charge, probably no need him to talk much to motivate/inspire the team, they know the stake or maybe consequence if they can't win the game (probably kena scold kaw kaw or another day training like hell  laugh.gif ).

I agree that humans work best with the people they familiar/worked before. But if things ain't broken,why fix it? It's not like our backroom staff got lot of problem and need revamp. Even Pellegrini bring his own assistant manager, he still retain Brian Kidd as assistant manager and FYI MC now have 2 assistant manager. This is because no one else know the club better than the old staff except the ex manager. I happy to see Phil Neville in our coaching team,but him over Rene? A big no for me,at least not for the time being. He can slowly start as coach,to gain few years experience. When the time come/ Rene leave in one day,promote him by that time also no late?

Agree on most of the fans here,if Moyes don't plan to play much Chicharito and Kagawa,please let them go in Jan. World cup is just around the corner and such a waste if both of them keep sit on the bench and limited their playing times which eventually damage the chance they being selected into the national team.
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Changing the backroom is pretty normal, although most times it happens because the backroom team is loyal to the departing manager and intends to follow him when he is sacked or joins a new club. Retirement cases like this are more.. grey area. I agree that keeping Rene around would have made the transition process easier for DM though. By doing a wholesale change like he did, he basically made his job and life tougher. Flip side is, it could be he did that because he intends to overhaul a lot of things and doesn't want Rene arguing about how things "were done different before this". Different man, different method.

I actually wonder what the fans are talking about, begging us to sell Kagawa and Chicharito. I really hope they both get more game time, especially since RvP has been playing a lot (don't want him to get injured from overplaying) and Rooney looked tired towards the last 20mins or so of the game (when he started losing the ball a lot). But fans going "PLEASE SELL KAGAWA TO DORTMUND"... wtf? Why is a fan supporting the player more than the club? They're both talented players, and I want them to deliver big performances... for THE CLUB. If they're causing trouble in the team or something of that nature, or playing horribly for a long time (Anderson.... ), then yea I get why we would be eager to sell them. Otherwise, this reaction is .... just weird, if you are fan of the club.

Edit: Unless you are a Japan or Mexico national team supporter, then it makes a bit more sense. I'm assuming this isn't the case though.

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we asians support asians

we support hernandez coz he is cute

kagawa + hernandez > united

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Moyes, lumsden, round out.... Just like any player, if they are not performing, they must go...

Chris woods to stay though, de gea has improved alot this season.
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Wierd Subs again by Moyes.
Giggs - He is legend but please... he is already 40 years old..
Welback - As usual, wasted chance and he never trace back to defend... I am surprise when I heard fans sayng his defense is better than kagawa.
Smalling - Didnt know why we should play so negatively in a home game, Defend when we are only one - nil up???
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pls dont let kagawa rot on the bench ffs. he didnt do much last season but still contributed. this season, he's not even starting.


i support kagawa + hernandez > united

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Feels damn good to see MU suffer now. All these while the imba decision going in MU's favor when Alex is here. Karma strikes. End of MU. Whole facebook MU fan's all diam diam this season. Usually big mouth for the past few yrs. LOLOL
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QUOTE(sunblaze @ Oct 20 2013, 01:48 AM)
Changing the backroom is pretty normal, although most times it happens because the backroom team is loyal to the departing manager and intends to follow him when he is sacked or joins a new club. Retirement cases like this are more.. grey area. I agree that keeping Rene around would have made the transition process easier for DM though. By doing a wholesale change like he did, he basically made his job and life tougher. Flip side is, it could be he did that because he intends to overhaul a lot of things and doesn't want Rene arguing about how things "were done different before this". Different man, different method.

I actually wonder what the fans are talking about, begging us to sell Kagawa and Chicharito. I really hope they both get more game time, especially since RvP has been playing a lot (don't want him to get injured from overplaying) and Rooney looked tired towards the last 20mins or so of the game (when he started losing the ball a lot). But fans going "PLEASE SELL KAGAWA TO DORTMUND"... wtf? Why is a fan supporting the player more than the club? They're both talented players, and I want them to deliver big performances... for THE CLUB. If they're causing trouble in the team or something of that nature, or playing horribly for a long time (Anderson.... ), then yea I get why we would be eager to sell them. Otherwise, this reaction is .... just weird, if you are fan of the club.

Edit: Unless you are a Japan or Mexico national team supporter, then it makes a bit more sense. I'm assuming this isn't the case though.
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Ya,keeping Mike Phelan (having joint assistant manager) and Rene would be easier for the transition because they can pass on their experience and maybe the new staff and inherit the winning/never die mentality from the old staff before letting them depart/leave/retired. In my opinion,now whenever we are in trouble, the staff like clueless and don't know what to do,even some of the substitution we made until now is like panic sub for me. Just hope the manager/staff can find the winning recipe sooner than later. nod.gif

We all fans surely appreciate and hope to see Kagawa and Chicharito play more because they are so talented. From the natural fans of view,who will wish to see such talented players continue sitting on bench? Kagawa probably cant play his best postion (behind striker or no.10), but Ferguson also used to play him many times in the winger position and he did quite well there. Since we having wingers problem now,we can just slot him there like what Ferguson did? I not like ask to sell back to dortmund or what,just letting them go and they can find a club with more playing time if they really not include in Moyes plan. Nevertheless, hope to see them feature for midweek CL games. biggrin.gif

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i really cant brain today's sub. moyes either sub wrong player out, or sub wrong player in.

i really wonder which world class player want to join man utd in january.
if they see our "amateur" subs like hernandez and kagawa cant get enough playing time while some "universe class" players get more chance and playing time.

i really pity hernandez and kagawa, they are like the back bone of their national team.
.but somebody feel they like pee or sh1t not good enough to play for man utd.
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I dun want to condemn Moyes but his subs were really mind boggling. I have low expectations of him but if we miss CL spot, he got to go. From champions to this. Not only we are not getting the results, but mentality and the way we play also is like a midtable team.
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nah im trully MAN UTD fan
im just dissapointed(camne eje ntah) with moyes
and i really2 hope moyes can man utd more aggresive next sizen
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moyes got the subs wrong! this is Madness!

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nah, I thought the game was more entertaining (especially first half) than most of the games under SAF last season, it's just the result doesn't go our way even though we had lot of good chances. When it is failure of player to convert lot of chances you can't really blame the coach. Defence looked solid too thanks to comeback of Evans, the best defender at the squad currently. Subbing in Smalling was sensible, midfield needs more energy in Jones to partner Carrick where the whole team looked tired. But yeah I was not really keen about subbing in Giggs and *especially* Welbeck.

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8 games edi he still cant get it right...moyes must go...let giggs manage enuf

heck even no need manager also can vmad.gif

damn u moyes u so noob, oni took me 5 games in fifa14 career to reach top of the league... vmad.gif

#moyesout

#COYG

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Moyes say : Utd haven't lost fear factor

teams are playing like Old trafford is their home and yet you come out with this statement.. time to accept the blame and stop living in denial. our home record in epl is pathetic, as of now.

we are no Everton, we dont stop attacking at 1-0.
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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Oct 20 2013, 01:00 PM)
8 games edi he still cant get it right...moyes must go...let giggs manage enuf

heck even no need manager also can vmad.gif

damn u moyes u so noob, oni took me 5 games in fifa14 career to reach top of the league... vmad.gif

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Top red fans berdiri belakang moyes. Bandwagon fans moyesout. Top red cakap give him time. Patient is the key. Bandwagon cakap moyes midtable manager is midtable. Top red cakap we will still challenge for title this season. Kneejerk fans cakap kejadah title challenger, top 4 pon cant get if still play like shit like this. Top red cakap kneejerk fans overreacted. Baru brapa games sudah kecoh. Kneejerk cakap top red blindy support. Cant see how shit the team now still berdiritegangbelakangmoyes.
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for sum reason fellaini looks like a lost lamb in the man utd midfield now...too slow and the game goes past him..think his not used to closing down so much like a DM shud as his been playind behind main striker at Everton for too long...

his too far down the midfield to make an impact...
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Certain people just trying so hard to be sarcastic and post sarcastic .... Lel
And waiting to pounce once his beloved moyes starts winning.. Wakakakakaka

As clueless as fellaini
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post Oct 20 2013, 02:14 PM

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Everybody wants to be a true fan.

Everybody wants to stay behind Moyes (for the sake of SAF).

But his tactic and substitution is mind boggling.

And I wanted him to play Kagawa and Chicharito but they are just not Moyes cup of tea I would say. He prefer Giggs and Welbeck. What's the use of keeping them. We all know what they are capable of. Ask football fan alike and we all agree.
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post Oct 20 2013, 02:30 PM

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And just a reminder he inherited a champion bunch of players with favourable game to game consistency and their never give up spirit till the end of time. Which has not been the case this time around. Unlike fergie,came with his assistant got an almost relegated united and needing to overhaul the squad. Mistake one, fixing what is not broken. Why fix it then
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QUOTE(damnself @ Oct 20 2013, 02:14 PM)
Everybody wants to be a true fan.

Everybody wants to stay behind Moyes (for the sake of SAF).

But his tactic and substitution is mind boggling.

And I wanted him to play Kagawa and Chicharito but they are just not Moyes cup of tea I would say. He prefer Giggs and Welbeck. What's the use of keeping them. We all know what they are capable of. Ask football fan alike and we all agree.
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We supporters are just disappointed and frustruated with the way Moyes runs the team. We are just being realistic here.
Good, we say good. Bad, we say bad. Let's not be pretenders, just like some football club supporters if you know what i mean.

Let's just stay strong and be patient. I've been with MU since the days before Cantona came to the rescue. GGMU!

Imagine if we managed to get 3 points yesterday. When we will be like just 4 points behind liverpool, and slowly creeping up the table, but then. BOOM! Equalised. cry.gif
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QUOTE(tatabun @ Oct 20 2013, 02:30 PM)
And just a reminder he inherited a champion bunch of players with favourable game to game consistency and their never give up spirit till the end of time. Which has not been the case this time around. Unlike fergie,came with his assistant got an almost relegated united and needing to overhaul the squad. Mistake one, fixing what is not broken. Why fix it then
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I feel the biggest mistake Moyes made was to remove the whole of SAF's backroom staffs and coaches.
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post Oct 20 2013, 04:17 PM

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post Oct 20 2013, 04:30 PM

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I expect all these things to happen for moyes' first season.


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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Oct 20 2013, 03:58 PM)
nod.gif  ngam.

We supporters are just disappointed and frustruated with the way Moyes runs the team.  We are just being realistic here.
Good, we say good.  Bad, we say bad.  Let's not be pretenders, just like some football club supporters if you know what i mean.

Let's just stay strong and be patient.  I've been with MU since the days before Cantona came to the rescue.  GGMU!

Imagine if we managed to get 3 points yesterday.  When we will be like just 4 points behind liverpool, and slowly creeping up the table, but then. BOOM!  Equalised.    cry.gif
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yeah we are all frustrated and disappointed, then start liao calling for moyes head this and that...after that start to categorize those who doesnt jump on the #moyesout bandwagon as "true" fans laugh.gif

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post Oct 20 2013, 04:36 PM

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Saddens my me to see United not getting a good result every time. maybe we used up some of come back quota last year? sad.gif
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post Oct 20 2013, 04:58 PM

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is it so hard to give moyes more time?

like how liverpool gave brendan rodgers so much time?(even when he had such a horrid first season, he's doing well this season)..

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post Oct 20 2013, 05:04 PM

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well, to be fair, he needs to realise the fact that he needs to stop using Young, and the likes of Giggs and welback. There I said it.


please use more kagawa sad.gif good januzaj is on the pitch. Where the heck is Zaha??
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post Oct 20 2013, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(nshady @ Oct 20 2013, 04:58 PM)
is it so hard to give moyes more time?

like how liverpool gave brendan rodgers so much time?(even when he had such a horrid first season, he's doing well this season)..

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post Oct 20 2013, 05:09 PM

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sacking moyes is definitely the way to move forward, those who disagrees are "true" and "blind" fans

#moyesout
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post Oct 20 2013, 05:12 PM

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So, there's no mourinho and pep available. Let's fire moyes.

Do u want AVB, Paul Lambert, Roberto Martinez, Fabio Capello or Roy Hogdson hehehe
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post Oct 20 2013, 05:15 PM

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how about darren ferguson...how about beckham giggs...how about ole...how about avb...how about scholes...

ANYONE BUT MOYES, COZ MOYES IS THE WORST CHOICE

#moyesout #ABM
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post Oct 20 2013, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(nshady @ Oct 20 2013, 05:12 PM)
So, there's no mourinho and pep available. Let's fire moyes.

Do u want AVB, Paul Lambert, Roberto Martinez, Fabio Capello or Roy Hogdson hehehe
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Di Canio please. I want to see his dictator style and his on field antics. Since he is available. Owai.

I remember Spurs fans were calling for AVB's head too when he first joined. String of poor results and suddenly became ruthless, all of those 'supporters' started singing his name from the stands. Seems like a familiar.

#MoyesOut #sinoOut #tacoOut


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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Oct 20 2013, 05:04 PM)
well, to be fair, he needs to realise the fact that he needs to stop using Young, and the likes of Giggs and welback. There I said it.
please use more kagawa sad.gif good januzaj is on the pitch. Where the heck is Zaha??
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Zaha did his daughter and punishing him for it. Lel
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surprised wenger still arsenal manager

after all those insults, asking to be sack, clueless, no idea in transfers, luckily he still there now leading top the table, arsenal fans finally can rejoice~ #COYG wub.gif
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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Oct 20 2013, 05:28 PM)
surprised wenger still arsenal manager

after all those insults, asking to be sack, clueless, no idea in transfers, luckily he still there now leading top the table, arsenal fans finally can rejoice~ #COYG wub.gif
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8 years samo. Ours 8 games already calling to beheaded.
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Oct 20 2013, 05:30 PM)
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8 years samo. Ours 8 games already calling to beheaded.
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padan muka moyes, he deserves it

no instant success u muz go out, if not where to hide my face???? i don care u get 6 year contract, i expect u to instantly guide us just as good as what saf did...damn hate the board should give 6 games contract enuf vmad.gif

best thing just jump ship
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post Oct 20 2013, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Oct 20 2013, 05:21 PM)
Di Canio please. I want to see his dictator style and his on field antics. Since he is available.  Owai.

I remember Spurs fans were calling for AVB's head too when he first joined. String of poor results and suddenly became ruthless, all of those 'supporters' started singing his name from the stands. Seems like a familiar. 

#MoyesOut #sinoOut #tacoOut
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Your finishing let you down, how many times M.U shot hit the cross bar? It's not 100% Moyes fault. IMO the player let the team down not Moyes, The So'ton goal also is a fluke goal. There is A reason TGOAT handpicked Moyes, you guys should stand behind him.
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So much negativity in this thread

Yes, MU performed badly, Moyes tactic sucks bla bla bla

Yes its a title winning team that we have, but its the transtion of gameplay, tactics and understanding that we obviously lack of, and i can see the lads are improving it

Why drop kagawa? Well we can see Soton is a physical team, so judging on kagawa's performance against bayer leverkusen last month made Moyes decided to bench him, sorta to play safela. Dats wat I think la, kagawa really need to buff up a lil because of the physical play in BPL.

It is Moyes first season la, the season which he should adapt to united's way of playing, and also for the lads to adapt his. Do u guys really think that the board shud fire him?? Lol

Wheres budakhijau? Need his tldr post to make this hoohaa2 against Moyes cools down abit

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post Oct 20 2013, 07:51 PM

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Cant stand laughing at the stupid sarcastic reply guy.. Just because people critic moyes and his choice of players not to mention his revamping decision is sraightaway assuming = moyesout. What stupid comprehension.. Zzzzzzz


Kritik sikit je kate nak moyes out.. Ppl just want o see whats best and i dont mind critics as long as it does not go overboard..

Kritik je kate antimoyes la whatnot.. Wtf

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not callin for his head but Moyes seriously he gotta get his negativity outta his head. we've been attacked right from d start till d end. yes we scored a goal, but from d way soton playin, it's just d matter of time before they equalized. so what we need is to score another goal. but instead all d substitutions made were more of protectin d 1-0 lead. i'd understand if this is a playoff match but we are playin in a league game on our own turf. i'd rather see us draw or lose even with us tryin hard to score than to draw in this manner. it's d never say die mentality that win u games, not this "oh let's hold on to a thin lead & pray opponent wont score" mindset for sure. deeply disappointed, hopefully Moyes will instill some positivity into his players & d way d team will play. smile.gif

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I don't know why did Moyes don't pick Kagawa. And where the hell is Zaha? Giggs keep on coming on the pitch. Welbeck? Why the hell did Hernandez not playing? WTF happening?

I don't know what are Moyes's reason. Moyes better have a good reason for this, and I don't wanna know why. He f***ed up last night, that's for sure. At least for me, & the majority of United universe. He should learn something for this. Never do negative play, especially when you're 1 up, there's 10 minutes to go, and the opposition have better possession then you. Only my .02 cents. And this is why Moyes is the manager, and I'm not.

Well, ppl make mistakes. Moyes can just getting better. I hope so. For now, I'm #BerdiriTegangBehindMoyes.
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Oct 20 2013, 08:52 PM)
not callin for his head but Moyes seriously he gotta get his negativity outta his head. we've been attacked right from d start till d end. yes we scored a goal, but from d way soton playin, it's just d matter of time before they equalized. so what we need is to score another goal. but instead all d substitutions made were more of protectin d 1-0 lead. i'd understand if this is a playoff match but we are playin in a league game on our own turf. i'd rather see us draw or lose even with us tryin hard to score than to draw in this matter. it's d never say die mentality that win u games, not this "oh let's hold on to a thin lead & pray opponent wont score" mindset for sure. deeply disappointed, hopefully Moyes will instill some positivity into his players & d way d team will play.  smile.gif
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Exactly the point.. In b4 some true fan calls u antimoyes and starts the hashtag antimoyes shit because he has nothing better to say untill utd wins and gets a dig out of those naysayers
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Oct 20 2013, 07:52 PM)
not callin for his head but Moyes seriously he gotta get his negativity outta his head. we've been attacked right from d start till d end. yes we scored a goal, but from d way soton playin, it's just d matter of time before they equalized. so what we need is to score another goal. but instead all d substitutions made were more of protectin d 1-0 lead. i'd understand if this is a playoff match but we are playin in a league game on our own turf. i'd rather see us draw or lose even with us tryin hard to score than to draw in this matter. it's d never say die mentality that win u games, not this "oh let's hold on to a thin lead & pray opponent wont score" mindset for sure. deeply disappointed, hopefully Moyes will instill some positivity into his players & d way d team will play.  smile.gif
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what's done is done, luckily there's a thing or 2 we can be happy about, 1st being Adnan is performing consistently so far (this lad is seriously matured earlier than his peers) & signed for 5 years, 2nd being the CD partnership between Jones & Evans (glad to see him back & performed admirably) bring some stability we've been craving for. Here's hope we will do better from now on. Dont mind us being written off, could be a blessing in disguised coz less pressure will be placed on Moyes' shoulder. he had done few things right by keepin Rooney, Nani & Adnan so credits to him. tactically wise i'm in no position to advise but lets hope he wont forget our club's philosophy that we're a team that not afraid goin forward when it's needed. flex.gif

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QUOTE(nshady @ Oct 20 2013, 05:12 PM)
So, there's no mourinho and pep available. Let's fire moyes.

Do u want AVB, Paul Lambert, Roberto Martinez, Fabio Capello or Roy Hogdson hehehe
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How about Rafa Benitez? whistling.gif
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post Oct 20 2013, 10:11 PM

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i just want to say no one bigger than a club...that include moyes too....
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Takde sape nak sack Moyes.

Gila ape tgk game semlm tak frustrate. I don't mind drawing/losing but that substitution are just jaw dropping.....

It's even jaw dropping when moyes said we are lacking world class player and still got fear factor in the team.

That game yesterday clearly answer the fear factor issues. The world class question is there right there sitting on the bench.

Please Moyes learn and got it right next time.

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rumours saying we are going to sign remy cabella and in january. and bye bye to young.
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fuwah giuseppe rossi hattrick against juve leh....
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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Oct 20 2013, 11:56 PM)
fuwah giuseppe rossi hattrick against juve leh....
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#moyesout
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Meltdown ke enjoice supporter fan kipas truefan butthurt #berdiritegangbehindmoyes fan name calling monyet...i hav life n game to watch n didnt bring my keyboard everywhere i go...n i rarely post here during match to bash things that u dont like to see...i rather concentrate on the game n see what improvement the lads get during training...how they translate gameplan n training to the real big stage...later i tldr...posting from my nokia e71 symbian fon yg oldskool lembab tp byk jasa...
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QUOTE(devis87 @ Oct 21 2013, 12:29 AM)
This guy is pathetic. Probably nothing better to do other than spamming his #berdiritegang dupes.
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QUOTE(skystrike @ Oct 21 2013, 12:46 AM)
#sgsuserout
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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Oct 21 2013, 12:47 AM)
pesal marah bro? brows.gif
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QUOTE(skystrike @ Oct 21 2013, 12:49 AM)
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I hope moyes will stay.
It will be good for the other teams hehe.
All teams were very happy because saf picked moyes.
#moyesstay

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