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English Clubs Manchester United Street Talks, 07/12 Man Utd v Newcastle, 20:45 810/831

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post Dec 3 2013, 01:44 PM

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kagawa and welz basically share exact the same position in the spurs game based on their game influence (sos frm 442 site bt i forgot link)

but its ez to forgive kagawa but not welbz tongue.gif
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post Dec 3 2013, 02:20 PM

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tomorrow game got live?

many games tomorrow, same time.
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post Dec 3 2013, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(onepack @ Dec 3 2013, 11:50 AM)
^ which part in the article say fellaini over kagawa fighting for same spot  hmm.gif

i think giggs can be the guy providing/exchanging passes wt kagawa like leverkusen game.

kagawa clearly fighting for no 10 role wt rooney.. unless he adapt playing in different role he will continue struggle to performed and getting min of play
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Guys, learn to play nice or I'll have to bring out the rotan. shakehead.gif

Anyways, i think SomeoneElse hit the nail on the head. Kagawa is more to short passes with lots of movement off the ball, players coming in short to receive a short pass and link up play and people making runs behind defenders. When you see United play, the whole team is static. They don't make runs or anything like that. And they don't come in short. The only one who does besides Kagawa, are probaby Carrick (a little bit) and Cleverley. And sometimes Nani when he plays. This is something that has been happening since the SAF days. United have always played more of a mixed passing game with a lot of width. This makes the spaces between United players a lot bigger and a lot of emphasis on wing play. The total opposite of how Kagawa plays. Just two seasons ago, united depended a lot on a crossing game. SAF tried to change this a bit, so he bought Kagawa last season to give more variety and options.

For Kagawa to play better, we'll need more players moving off the ball, players keeping the gap between each other smaller and more players making runs behind defenders, etc. Which we don't. So there's our conundrum. This probably explains why Moyes wanted Herrera or Thiago. He wanted not just a replacement/complement for Carrick. He wanted to give the midfield more pass and move kinda players. Basically a premium version of Cleverley.

The key question now is how to maintain a balance between the Kagawa style and the traditional United style to give United variety in attack. So far, SAF hadn't really gotten a perfect formula during his time and now it's up to Moyes to figure this puzzle out.

As for Cleverley, from what I've seen, he's good for link up play (always offering himself as an option for a pass and good for short passes), but not much else. He can't really defend well like Carrick or Fletcher (he does try though, hence all the unnecessary fouls) and he can't really make super passes like Scholes or Carrick. This is why he plays well with Carrick, because he gives Carrick an easy option for a pass if opposing teams decide to pressure Carrick, while Carrick does all the premium moves. I suppose he is a good squad player, but what United really need right now is a replacement for Scholes. A top class midfielder. We have enough squad players as it is.
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post Dec 3 2013, 05:37 PM

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when will carrick RVP expect to return? december is so congested ones till new year
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post Dec 3 2013, 07:17 PM

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http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/25184865
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post Dec 3 2013, 09:02 PM

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I seriously wanna laugh at this. Not long ago:

Fulham boss Martin Jol: I was right to reject Fergie at Manchester United

now jol is fired lol.
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post Dec 4 2013, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(onepack @ Dec 3 2013, 05:37 PM)
when will carrick RVP expect to return? december is so congested ones till new year
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“Robin is OK. He has a chance of playing.”


hope to see rafael return too

http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1636780/...ie-face-everton
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post Dec 4 2013, 09:45 PM

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I pretty much share the same view.

But in the meantime, our lines-up against Arsenal was the most promising combination under Moyes imo, like other who have thought since last year or more, Carrick works better alongside player like Jones. Now Jones is a player with positioning's significant improvement than before, he just needs to be more clever with his tackle. Those 2 are best bet at the moment.

Would love to see combination of Evra-Kagawa at left and Rafael-Januzaj at right.
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It is not hard to figure out why cleverley wasn't as good as before.He still trying to surpass the mental block and trying to be free injury.The Injury after injury really catch him up.

He need to be brave to perform and show his talent.anyway, good luck lads.please secure 3 points.this month is very crucial for us.(no more dropping pts ala west brom and soton game)
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post Dec 5 2013, 02:53 AM

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De Gea; Rafael, Vidic, Smalling, Evra; Valencia, Fellaini, Giggs, Kagawa, Welbeck; Rooney

subs: Lindegaard, Evans, Cleverley, Nani, Young, Hernandez, Januzaj

Howard, Oviedo, Distin, Jagielka ©, Coleman, McCarthy, Barry, Pienaar, Barkley, Mirallas, Lukaku

subs: Robles, Heitinga, Jelavic, Deulofeu, Naismith, Osman, Stones

worried about Lukaku.

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QUOTE(alowie @ Dec 5 2013, 02:53 AM)
De Gea; Rafael, Vidic, Smalling, Evra; Valencia, Fellaini, Giggs, Kagawa, Welbeck; Rooney

subs: Lindegaard, Evans, Cleverley, Nani, Young, Hernandez, Januzaj

Howard, Oviedo, Distin, Jagielka ©, Coleman, McCarthy, Barry, Pienaar, Barkley, Mirallas, Lukaku

subs: Robles, Heitinga, Jelavic, Deulofeu, Naismith, Osman, Stones

worried about Lukaku.
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post Dec 5 2013, 03:09 AM

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omg rafael back yes baby
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post Dec 5 2013, 03:29 AM

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hi, is there a way to watch online live stream? any sites?
tonite my house got many relatives sleep infront tv, don't want to kacau them when I scream GOOAALL!!:)

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http://www.viplivesports.eu/football/19320...eam-online.html
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post Dec 5 2013, 03:34 AM

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thanks smile.gif
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post Dec 5 2013, 04:27 AM

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Too static.
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Dafaq almost

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