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English Clubs Chelsea FC V22, BPL - Southampton 0 - 3 Chelsea

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post Nov 29 2013, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(kucingmainan @ Nov 28 2013, 09:06 PM)
Not a good performance from the team. Kinda disappointed with you line up. Should have rest the like of lampard and Oscar. What's the point of having 2 players for each position when u don't even try to use them. Frustrated seeing Mata rot on the bench again.
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post Nov 29 2013, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(kimirockz @ Nov 29 2013, 11:23 AM)
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QUOTE(Alexdino @ Nov 29 2013, 09:45 AM)
Hope mata will get 90min on our last group match  smile.gif
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mou need to play him soon or risk losing him come january. mata is our player of the year for 2 consecutive years ffs. now he rotting on the bench for 2 consecutive matches.

i do feel mou decision two announce oscar as his main man was wrong. he should never do that.
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QUOTE(kucingmainan @ Nov 29 2013, 09:30 PM)
mou need to play him soon or risk losing him come january. mata is our player of the year for 2 consecutive years ffs. now he rotting on the bench for 2 consecutive matches.

i do feel mou decision two announce oscar as his main man was wrong. he should never do that.
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well Mata better improve himself and learn to adapt to Mou tactics. plus..to be frank..he cant track back and defend.

Mou announced that Oscar is our No.10.

early this season..Mou also announced that he want Mata to play RW..but he cant do that..

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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Nov 29 2013, 08:55 PM)
well Mata better improve himself and learn to adapt to Mou tactics. plus..to be frank..he cant track back and defend.

Mou announced that Oscar is our No.10.

early this season..Mou also announced that he want Mata to play RW..but he cant do that..
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obviously mata can't defend. no one can argue with that. but in term of attacking quality in the team. i rate mata second to none. we're currently lacking in creativity during attack. which mata can improve vastly.

on rw, mata lacking speed which is one of the main quality needs by a wide player. he can nevre be a good winger.


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QUOTE(kucingmainan @ Nov 29 2013, 09:44 PM)
obviously mata can't defend. no one can argue with that. but in term of attacking quality in the team. i rate mata second to none. we're currently lacking in creativity during attack. which mata can improve vastly.

on rw, mata lacking speed which is one of the main quality needs by a wide player. he can nevre be a good winger.
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agree with you..

Hope he.can prove jose wrong
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jose looks like to be taking advantage on the fan's hope about him coming back to the club as license to be more stubborn. the changes he made so far is still far from completion and the performance so far is below standard compared to the amount of talent we got.
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It is understood the 20-year-old Belgium striker asked to move after the August 30 European Super Cup defeat to Bayern Munich in Prague, when he missed the decisive penalty in a shootout defeat for Jose Mourinho's men.

Lukaku did not believe he could compete for a regular starting place for the lone striker's role after the arrival of Samuel Eto'o to join Fernando Torres and Demba Ba.

His request was immediately rejected and a loan with Everton negotiated on September 2, transfer deadline day, with his season-long switch ending the prospect of Ba leaving Stamford Bridge on loan.

Lukaku joined Chelsea from Anderlecht in August 2011 for a reported fee of £20 million and spent last season on loan at West Bromwich Albion, scoring 17 goals.

At Everton, he has scored seven goals in seven English Premier League starts.

Mourinho has repeatedly been asked about Lukaku's situation since allowing the Belgian to move, and was again ahead of Sunday's (Monday AEDT) match with Southampton.

Mourinho said: "Romelu likes to speak. The only thing that he didn't say is why he went to Everton on loan.

"When some day he scored and he was saying 'I hope Jose is watching this'. It was like saying 'why did he let me go?' and that's what I'm telling you now. Tell the country why you left. Ask him.

"When you keep quiet all the time, you keep quiet all the time. When you like to speak, when you enjoy to speak, speak everything. Don't speak only half of it. Speak everything.

"And it's a simple question: why did you leave Chelsea? Ask him."

Mourinho believes there are a number of positives to Lukaku playing at Everton.

Mourinho added: "It's good for his evolution. It's good for Chelsea, because he belongs to us for a long time and I'm happy with that.

"I'm happy that he's scoring goals against our direct rivals and he doesn't score against us because he can't.

"It's phenomenal when you have a player even when he's not playing for you he's scoring against your opponent. That's very, very good."

Mourinho stated he is unlikely to sign players this January - "most probably we are going to end with this group," he said - as few players are available who would improve his squad and be available for the UEFA Champions League.

Chelsea has won the title once since Mourinho's departure - with Carlo Ancelotti in 2009/10 - after he delivered the club's first championship for 50 years and successive titles at the start of his first spell.

He believes winning the Premier League this season would be a greater achievement than that 2004/05 success.

Mourinho said: "To win when a club is not historically a winner is a hard step. But I think winning the title this season would be a bigger achievement.

"In my time it was just three teams fighting for the title. Now it's six. And the difference between the three and the rest was a big distance.

"And in this moment the distance between the six is short and the difference between the six and the next three, four is also short. Nobody knows what can happen.

"Maybe the difference will be a couple of points. It will be good fun I think.

"I think we have the competition that every country wants to have and nobody has."

After winning titles in Italy and in Spain during his near-six-year absence, Mourinho is enjoying his second spell in England.

Mourinho added: "I would prefer to be top of the league and the second to come 10 points after me, I would love it.

"But I love the fact that you win a match you are second, you lose a match you go from second to sixth, you lose two matches you are out of European competitions, you win two matches, you are probably first or second. The league is fantastic."

Mourinho is uncertain what it will take to win the title this season.

He added: "How many points? I don't know, but I would say maybe a team with six defeats can win."

Mourinho was asked about the pressure of the fierce competition in relation to Tottenham boss Andre Villas-Boas, whose job is reportedly under threat after the 6-0 loss at Manchester City.

Mourinho believes managers' positions should not be scrutinised so soon, particularly this term.

Mourinho said: "If in this league, to lose two matches is a reason to be under pressure, I think everybody during the season will be under pressure, because everybody will lose two matches.

"It will happen to every one of us. People has to understand how it is."
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QUOTE(kucingmainan @ Nov 29 2013, 09:44 PM)
obviously mata can't defend. no one can argue with that. but in term of attacking quality in the team. i rate mata second to none. we're currently lacking in creativity during attack. which mata can improve vastly.

on rw, mata lacking speed which is one of the main quality needs by a wide player. he can nevre be a good winger.
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I think most of us agree with what you mentioned about Mata. But IMO, Mata's attacking qualities makes up for his lack of defensive ability. I think with likes of Mikel and Ramires in the team, there is space for Mata in the line up. If Jose doesn't give some leeway in his philosophy, I don't expect to see Mata play soon.

P.S. I'm not against Mou or Oscar in anyway. I still believe in JM to bring us success, but it's hard not to discuss the issues when the performances aren't particularly great or consistent.
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QUOTE(kucingmainan @ Nov 29 2013, 10:44 PM)
obviously mata can't defend. no one can argue with that. but in term of attacking quality in the team. i rate mata second to none. we're currently lacking in creativity during attack. which mata can improve vastly.

on rw, mata lacking speed which is one of the main quality needs by a wide player. he can nevre be a good winger.
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QUOTE(Zeuss1220 @ Nov 30 2013, 01:54 PM)
+1
I think most of us agree with what you mentioned about Mata. But IMO, Mata's attacking qualities makes up for his lack of defensive ability. I think with likes of Mikel and Ramires in the team, there is space for Mata in the line up. If Jose doesn't give some leeway in his philosophy, I don't expect to see Mata play soon.

P.S. I'm not against Mou or Oscar in anyway. I still believe in JM to bring us success, but it's hard not to discuss the issues when the performances aren't particularly great or consistent.
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thats is why I seriously want to see Oscar dropping deep to CM/ Lamp position..and Mata take the AM role..because Oscar play CM for Brazil..and Mata can be the spark of creativity there..still waiting this to happen..

this is hard because I'm all 100% Mata..100% Oscar and 100% Mou...fak.. sweat.gif hahahahha
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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Nov 30 2013, 01:26 PM)
thats is why I seriously want to see Oscar dropping deep to CM/ Lamp position..and Mata take the AM role..because Oscar play CM for Brazil..and Mata can be the spark of creativity there..still waiting this to happen..

this is hard because I'm all 100% Mata..100% Oscar and 100% Mou...fak.. sweat.gif hahahahha
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oscar ramires double pivot good enough for me and mata as AM.
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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Nov 30 2013, 01:26 PM)
thats is why I seriously want to see Oscar dropping deep to CM/ Lamp position..and Mata take the AM role..because Oscar play CM for Brazil..and Mata can be the spark of creativity there..still waiting this to happen..

this is hard because I'm all 100% Mata..100% Oscar and 100% Mou...fak.. sweat.gif hahahahha
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QUOTE(gry @ Nov 30 2013, 01:40 PM)
oscar ramires double pivot good enough for me and mata as AM.
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I'll go for more stability with Mikel in the pivot alongside Oscar. Ramires play wide, can interchange with Oscar and can cover for him. Both provide high work rate in attack and defense. Mata play AM of course.
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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Nov 30 2013, 01:26 PM)
thats is why I seriously want to see Oscar dropping deep to CM/ Lamp position..and Mata take the AM role..because Oscar play CM for Brazil..and Mata can be the spark of creativity there..still waiting this to happen..

this is hard because I'm all 100% Mata..100% Oscar and 100% Mou...fak.. sweat.gif hahahahha
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I'm thinking the same way. Oscar shud be partnering ram in cm. Let Mata have the freedom to attack and crate chances. Lampard shudn't start every game. He's already past his prime and often struggle to keep the consistency in his game this season.
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QUOTE(kucingmainan @ Nov 30 2013, 04:27 PM)
I'm thinking the same way. Oscar shud be partnering ram in cm. Let Mata have the freedom to attack and crate chances. Lampard shudn't start every game. He's already past his prime and often struggle to keep the consistency in his game this season.
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+1..

foundation is there already but this season start to build new foundation. this season only a few times we mention mazascar combo..hehe

i trust in mou but i hope he will realized that mata is his no 10
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I guess it will take a long time for Mou to push Mata as his starter. Mou to date still like all round players that can do track back (Oscar, Ozil, Sneijder). It's his philosophy. And since he is in charge now, it's very hard to foresee Mata starting matches.

I would say for now, it's totally up to Mata. Either he up his game and provide some track back run, or risks being traded off in the Jan transfer market. It really will not surprise me if Mata leaves in the Jan transfer market.

Even if he does leave, I believe Mou will sign someone (maybe not a big name) but someone that is capable of organizing the attack and provide track back and defensive cover.

I know all of us is disappointed that our player of the season for 2 years in a row is not starting games, but guys....KTBBFH!
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arsenal really play like a champion. ozil arrival really boost up their attacking department. thats the reason why i want mata to be on the team. mata creativity and passing ability on the same par with ozil.

need to get 3 points for tonight match. can't afford to lose more points as arsenal is on fire now.

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for those who looking for last season jersey. protechkitzone have em at 159 for short sleeve, 189 for long sleeve. drool.gif

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Match tonight 11.30pm against Soton.

Hopefully the line up is better this time. Soton is the real deal and will definitely punish us if we don't play our best.

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