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post Oct 14 2013, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Oct 14 2013, 02:39 PM)
I wonder if they disabled the ESC (Fiesta 1.6's ESC cannot be switched off....at least not from inside the car. Again the facelift Fiesta is better for track in that it CAN be switched off).

Imagine the RAGE because the engine cut power as the car understeers into the corner and the ESC kick in  icon_question.gif
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oh ya, i notice got 1 fiesta got a quite heavy "tak tak tak tak" sound frm engine bay? wat sound is tht?
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Oct 14 2013, 02:44 PM)
oh ya, i notice got 1 fiesta got a quite heavy "tak tak tak tak" sound frm engine bay? wat sound is tht?
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IAFM kong nod.gif
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post Oct 14 2013, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Oct 14 2013, 02:39 PM)
I wonder if they disabled the ESC (Fiesta 1.6's ESC cannot be switched off....at least not from inside the car. Again the facelift Fiesta is better for track in that it CAN be switched off).

Imagine the RAGE because the engine cut power as the car understeers into the corner and the ESC kick in  icon_question.gif
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i dunno bout you, but i've discussed the ESC (well ASC la for inspira) with a few inspira dudes; Basically if you're not that good of a driver (let's just put it better than the ESC la), having it on even on tracking is actually much better. as your goal is to get lap times and not have the tail slide/drift around etc (well, it's boring la i'll admit)

in fact i've test driven the inspira with ASC at genting, and i just... yea it was pretty unforgettable. and i was boggled as to how the hell one person can have so much confidence in letting a mere stranger (at that time, pretty much la, only replied posts on LYN thread, NOT even PM) test drive your own personal car at genting weih lol. i only able to understand it AFTER i test driven it.

to put in perspective, there's a reason why systems like traction control/stability controls are banned in F1 lol. all computer assisted, no point in racing also. might as well go fly kite la tongue.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Oct 14 2013, 02:45 PM)
IAFM kong  nod.gif
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sorry tht fiesta got IAFM? wa tak sure as didnt really into fiesta... sorry ar
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Oct 14 2013, 02:40 PM)
i dont like ur tht sentence...  vmad.gif  vmad.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Oct 14 2013, 02:45 PM)
IAFM kong  nod.gif
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post Oct 14 2013, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 14 2013, 02:46 PM)
i dunno bout you, but i've discussed the ESC (well ASC la for inspira) with a few inspira dudes; Basically if you're not that good of a driver (let's just put it better than the ESC la), having it on even on tracking is actually much better. as your goal is to get lap times and not have the tail slide/drift around etc (well, it's boring la i'll admit)

in fact i've test driven the inspira with ASC at genting, and i just... yea it was pretty unforgettable. and i was boggled as to how the hell one person can have so much confidence in letting a mere stranger (at that time, pretty much la, only replied posts on LYN thread, NOT even PM) test drive your own personal car at genting weih lol. i only able to understand it AFTER i test driven it.

to put in perspective, there's a reason why systems like traction control/stability controls are banned in F1 lol. all computer assisted, no point in racing also. might as well go fly kite la tongue.gif
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At some point, especially on the track, the ESC/ASC/VSC/aparanjiaoSC becomes a hindrance. It brakes for you and cut engine power irregardless of what you are trying to do. Imagine you understeer a bit and the engine cuts off, throttle becomes irresponsive, and you are unable to accelerate out of the corner.

That's why most trackies will switch it off on track. The system is to counter understeer and oversteer, not just tail slide and drifts.

There's a reason why Carlos Lago complain the Golf R's ESC that cannot be completely switched off. nuff said

QUOTE(r3apers @ Oct 14 2013, 02:46 PM)
sorry tht fiesta got IAFM? wa tak sure as didnt really into fiesta... sorry ar
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You belip me ar?

My Fiesta also got slight clicking sound, dunno if it is as loud as what you heard. Tappet sound maybe?

This post has been edited by dares: Oct 14 2013, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE(dares @ Oct 14 2013, 02:44 PM)
I also dunno mana fius tu unsure.gif
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Fuse no.1 wink.gif

tonight try... icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Oct 14 2013, 02:19 PM)
woops... made a mistake... blush.gif

iskazulka Sry, not valve seal... That's cam seal laugh.gif

valve seal only change if ada white smoke come out from exhaust coz engine makan minyak hitam... but there could be lots more reason for engine to om nom nom minyak hitam...
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kena self service ask to change
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post Oct 14 2013, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Oct 14 2013, 02:52 PM)
At some point, especially on the track, the ESC/ASC/VSC/aparanjiaoSC becomes a hindrance. It brakes for you and cut engine power irregardless of what you are trying to do. Imagine you understeer a bit and the engine cuts off, throttle becomes irresponsive, and you are unable to accelerate out of the corner.

That's why most trackies will switch it off on track. The system is to counter understeer and oversteer, not just tail slide and drifts.

There's a reason why Carlos Lago complain the Golf R's ESC that cannot be completely switched off. nuff said
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yes spot on thumbup.gif
thinking back, the vets told me the way i have my tail swinging out a bit is the most ideal situation i want to be in. although i sometimes have it swung out too much la. with SC's, that is pretty much impossible (as i have tested as well nod.gif )
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post Oct 14 2013, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Oct 14 2013, 02:52 PM)
At some point, especially on the track, the ESC/ASC/VSC/aparanjiaoSC becomes a hindrance. It brakes for you and cut engine power irregardless of what you are trying to do. Imagine you understeer a bit and the engine cuts off, throttle becomes irresponsive, and you are unable to accelerate out of the corner.

That's why most trackies will switch it off on track. The system is to counter understeer and oversteer, not just tail slide and drifts.

There's a reason why Carlos Lago complain the Golf R's ESC that cannot be completely switched off. nuff said
You belip me ar?

My Fiesta also got slight clicking sound, dunno if it is as loud as what you heard. Tappet sound maybe?
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i belip u wan de ler... vmad.gif vmad.gif
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post Oct 14 2013, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Oct 14 2013, 02:56 PM)
i belip u wan de ler...  vmad.gif  vmad.gif
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sleep.gif Naive betul, r3apers ni.
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post Oct 14 2013, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 14 2013, 02:55 PM)
yes spot on  thumbup.gif
thinking back, the vets told me the way i have my tail swinging out a bit is the most ideal situation i want to be in. although i sometimes have it swung out too much la. with SC's, that is pretty much impossible (as i have tested as well nod.gif )
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post Oct 14 2013, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Oct 14 2013, 02:53 PM)
Fuse no.1 wink.gif

tonight try... icon_idea.gif
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I cabut at home first so u kenot cabut tonite!! flex.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Oct 14 2013, 03:00 PM)
I cabut at home first so u kenot cabut tonite!!  flex.gif
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later on the way come no ABS... have to ABS your ownself.
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post Oct 14 2013, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Oct 14 2013, 03:01 PM)
later on the way come no ABS... have to ABS your ownself.
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Wait thats the ABS fuse or the ESC fuse? unsure.gif
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post Oct 14 2013, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Oct 14 2013, 02:59 PM)

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oh my god lol "does R mean something else in germany?" laugh.gif
i watched this haha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4uDzeDP1eo
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post Oct 14 2013, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 14 2013, 03:06 PM)
oh my god lol "does R mean something else in germany?" laugh.gif
i watched this haha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4uDzeDP1eo
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This one even more epic.



They had to replace the Golf R with a BRZ due to the Undefeatable Stability Control (lol USC) laugh.gif

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post Oct 14 2013, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Oct 14 2013, 03:03 PM)
Wait thats the ABS fuse or the ESC fuse?  unsure.gif
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I have a hunch the ABS thing controls the ESC, TC, whatever C thing also... so biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

or else... I dunno. laugh.gif

so tonite we go test. lol
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post Oct 14 2013, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Oct 14 2013, 03:10 PM)
This one even more epic.



They had to replace the Golf R with a BRZ due to the Undefeatable Stability Control (lol USC) laugh.gif
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omfg thanks for the link laugh.gif
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post Oct 14 2013, 03:37 PM

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Guys, gonna change my tyre soon. Recommend me which is better for saga blm m line sport rim 14" Sport rim (185/60R14) for overall for pothole, wet, handling and grip

- mx2
- c drive 2

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