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post Oct 11 2013, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Oct 11 2013, 07:49 PM)
It is a plastic manifold between the throttle body and the engine.

The sole purpose of it is to make sound after a certain mileage so the owner have to visit SC for replacement. If after warranty it makes sure the owner continue to pay Proton for replacement so Proton can continue to earn money  nod.gif
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BTW I just came back from Kuantan.
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The IAFM unit by nature doesn't spoil that easily geh. However, according to magician cracking an IAFM could caused by blockage of catcon, too much reverse pressure from exhaust remained in the combustion chamber, as a result reverse firing the intake valve. Intake manifold kena suction(intake) and back pressure than ma crack lor.

Canister purge valve is a consumable part, it's wear and tear. Tauke lover will rosak it faster because the purging process will be more thorough compare to normal driver. ericmaxman to conlanfem rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(sg999 @ Oct 11 2013, 08:43 PM)
can our cars fit DIN55 battery?
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post Oct 11 2013, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(sg999 @ Oct 11 2013, 10:54 PM)
the base ngam ngam fit?
or have to put battery senget a bit? drool.gif
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Not fitting, just plonk on top. Rack also need to change.
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QUOTE(punkLOL @ Oct 11 2013, 11:32 PM)
to solve this iafm problem in future, we need change the catcon or remove it?
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If you're not that hardcore, just drive normally it will not cause such catastrophic damage. If you are,

1) Change intake manifold
2) Change catcon once it sumbat(provided you're a tree huger)
3) Change to high flow catcon(if you can afford, around 1k++)
4) Replace with straight pipe/bullet silencer(not environment friendly at all)
5) Replace whole exhaust manifold + remove catcon(not environment friendly and need to spend more)
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post Oct 12 2013, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(punkLOL @ Oct 11 2013, 11:43 PM)
Let say now my iafm and canistor purge valve both got problem( got tek sound dy)

i change the iafm intake manifold + canister purge valve + any brand 4-2-1 extractor.

Thats should be ok rite. hmm.gif
Since the catcon so expensive, i decide not to include inside. laugh.gif
i want to keep the car quiet like stock.
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It could be just the canister purge valve. Try to change the purge valve 1st. If conlanfem no problem, you save some 400+. Regardless, if change ady still same torque dip at 2krpm ~ 3krpm, then only change the IAFM intake manifold. Magician always try to threaten you they'll charge double if you try the purge valve and didn't work. So, it's about time to get a new magician, ask the magician how much do they charge on changing the purge valve alone before let him diagnose. Then baru ask how much do they charge by changing the whole IAFM. Like this ask prolly cheaper than you go ask them diagnose and they ask you change both. Even if I have to pay slightly more to try out the purge valve first, I rather take the risk.

Replacement catcon can be found at Steven, Sri Damansara Exhaust. Ayam using this 1, extremely stock and affordable. Reason being, I couldn't find a trust worthy exhaust manifold out there, provided most after market manifold sensor mounting NOT located at the joints.

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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Oct 11 2013, 11:48 PM)
i emo liao... CREE 1 side sudah kong... sad.gif
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How?
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post Oct 12 2013, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(Noobdao @ Oct 12 2013, 09:57 AM)
Yesterday I stopped my car at Kau Wong Ye temple, so I off the engine then I wait my fren coming....During that time, I off the light just on the radio.....When my fren calling, so I turn the key, rdy to start up engine, around 5 mins....When I started to start up the engine, it can't start, and ...battery not kong, like fuel din coming....So i off all the thing, and take off the key, I put in again, then it can start.....That is weird...
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Overflow. Just keep cranking, good things will happen. Stop being paranoid.
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post Oct 12 2013, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(Noobdao @ Oct 12 2013, 11:36 AM)
I cranking 8 times d...haha~~~~
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Who ask you to crank so many times. Keep cranking until the engine start. Being a season GaGa owner still make the same mistake as newbie. Shame on you whistling.gif If I were other sohem that doesn't know you well, probably will bad mouth say your VS causes kenot start kar liao whistling.gif

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=63388829


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post Oct 12 2013, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(DonMe @ Oct 12 2013, 12:24 PM)
Abs and air bag signal turn off means fuel already injected, but you waited, it should have evaporated, therefore sounded like no fuel going in..
Then you off and on again, it restart re-injecting fuel, then you able to start. definitely not overflow.
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sleep.gif okeh master notworthy.gif restarted 8 times, no fuel going in, the 9th time suddenly got fuel injection. whistling.gif
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post Oct 12 2013, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(wanfauzan @ Oct 12 2013, 03:13 PM)
Immobilizer how?
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pull it out and chuck it in the bin yawn.gif

QUOTE(Maxwell6635 @ Oct 12 2013, 04:25 PM)
normal boss, so hot because is campro engine.  cool2.gif
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How ar? Fix ady? So lansi sardenly bcum xin-gah-lan here wor whistling.gif

QUOTE(iskazulka @ Oct 12 2013, 04:33 PM)
seriously you need to read david's statements.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=63388829
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Nevermind, everytime when I try to tell people overflow issue, he will post the same thing again. His philosophy as usual, turn off key, turn on and wait for TEET, then start the car, that never fails him. So we shall listen sleep.gif
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post Oct 13 2013, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(Aquariusdenz @ Oct 12 2013, 09:10 PM)
was ready to go dating and going to start my gaga.. keep on cranking and i didnt switch it off.. already cranked for half an hour still cant start.. the car haven been use since this morning.. im now driving kancil go dating.. sad..
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May be should do like DonMe, switch off, switch on wait for TEET, then start whistling.gif

QUOTE(kenjilew @ Oct 12 2013, 11:25 PM)
BULK BULK BULK !!!!
sacrifice one and stick near the key hole...
BULK BULK BULK !!! i also kena liao... whistling.gif
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From what I heard, immo all time on key switch will make plobrem geh yawn.gif
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post Oct 13 2013, 01:54 AM

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QUOTE(THE CLASS OF 13 @ Oct 13 2013, 01:15 AM)
guys..my left front wheel area produce squeaking sound "nyeetttt, nyettt, nyetttt" somthing like that lah.. when go trough bump, i mean road bump like girl boobie punya..if uneven road no weird sound..it happens when there is lot pressure pushing the absorber upwards i think..dunno how to describe..i try tekan with my hand no sound oso..absorber kong ka? but left only squeaking sound..right no prob..
fyi my car only 1 and half year..using proride lowered spring belum sampai satu tahun pun..maybe last wednesday i drive kuala krai road from klantan till kl..but weird lah only now i return back from kl to terengganu got that sound..

anyone can enlighten me about this?
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Esoba koyaked. Ori Plotong very expansib. Go get GAB/Moroe still much cheaper compare to APM Plotong yawn.gif

QUOTE(shinnasuka @ Oct 13 2013, 01:27 AM)
Oh yeah, I almost forgot. There is a case of dripping liquid from under the engine compartment, neat my left front wheel. And I just took the car today. Could it be rain water? Since today very heavy rain. No idea what liquid it is though, cuz it was very late at night.
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If it's transparent liquid, it is aircon condensed water oni.

QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 13 2013, 01:37 AM)
Bought my car at the wrong time. laugh.gif

Keep having business trips these few months. sweat.gif doh.gif

Next month I'm going for a short term assignment to China for 3 months. My sister and bro-in-law have to help me to use my car.... laugh.gif
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Gimme the keys rolleyes.gif

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post Oct 13 2013, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(Aquariusdenz @ Oct 13 2013, 10:01 AM)
guys.. i think my gaga have serious issue now.. cant start since yesterday night till this morning.. now the starting sound is like this: wueeeeeeeekeeeeeekeeeeekee.. luckily the car is current at my house.. if i were to call icare for help, can they send somemore to my house at the same day? and if they are going to tow it to service center.. do they charge for it?
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Battery habis jor. Like I told, if cranked straight for 5 minutes also can't start then don't try liao. Surely there's some technical/software error. Good luck in getting the tow truck. You should call now, this is an emergency.
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QUOTE(DonMe @ Oct 13 2013, 11:43 AM)
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What also me?
To my underatanding from what he writing is he left on the key to on position (not acc position) but didnt crank it. Wont the fuel be evaporated after 5 mintues? How will it have fuel overflow? sleep.gif Saga fuel pump will keep injecting fuel when on position without engine running?
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So sensitib sleep.gif Troll abit ady marah² sleep.gif

Acterly, your theory also make sense. Need to find out whether Noobdao stopped area got bukit or not. If naik bukit no plobrem, but if turun bukit, then it's likely lack of fuel supply. Just for your information incase you don't know how fuel regulator works.

1) It takes signal from piston suction.
2) When piston goes down(including crank start), fuel regulator will open according to piston vacuum force. Faster piston goes down, stronger suction created, fuel regulator give more fuel pressure for injectors.
3) An open loop program was implemented for idling(start car). This will allow a small LEAKING opening for fuel regulator, to ensure your engine doesn't stall.
4) During high speed cruising, when you suddenly release gas pedal and hit the brakes, the throttle flap will close. When this happen, vacuum suction will suddenly increased because the atmosphere was blocked.

Last year I have explained how vacuum related to FC is because of this. If 17in/hg is idling, when you press the gas pedal, throttle flap open. More outside air easily flow in, vacuum reading will raise from 17 to 10in/hg, if you go WOT, vacuum will rased up to 0in/hg because outside atmosphere is totally opened for engine suction. Lesser vacuum reading, more fuel pressure applied by fuel regulator. Suddenly, when you release gas pedal, vacuum tarik beyond 17in/hg goes right down to 25in/hg. This is because your throttle flap is now closed, outside atmosphere was blocked. When your piston goes down, it create extremely strong vacuum, so it will shut tight the fuel regulator. Then your engine braking comes.

My point is, if key position was left ON for a long time, by right it doesn't cause no fuel supply, But there ins't piston movement(suction), no vacuum was created. So, fuel will be LEAK into the combustion chamber. Which is why fuel overflow happens. And, you are right about keep on pumping fuel to fuel regulator. Fuel regulator was there to REGULATE the amount of fuel to flow through fuel rail. The more leakage, less pressure on the fuel line, fuel pump will continue supply again provided key is in ON position.

I hope I explain it well for your knowledge. To agree with your statement, only if GaGa was parked downhill provided low petrol balance in tank, fuel pump suck air whistling.gif Then ma no fuel supply lor. So, jangan marah² whistling.gif I'm a fucking decent person. It's not everytime TEET will work geh, especially in flawed designed GaGa yawn.gif


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post Oct 13 2013, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Oct 13 2013, 02:20 PM)
How is the cranking sound strong? Weak? If weak then battery died. If strong, then your crank position sensor kong.

If battery die, just go out and buy a new battery and change at home kao Tim no need to call tow truck
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Oh ya!!! Forgot jor, my Shawie used to hab that plobrem oso lastaim laugh.gif Enclosed is video for troubleshooting, NOT MY KAR laugh.gif

http://youtu.be/w2WSS1KfPCo?t=44m37s
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QUOTE(DonMe @ Oct 13 2013, 04:52 PM)
Ahhh i see.. Wells also depends on ecu how much petrol is gonna be injected right? Too little fuel can also make engine unable to start right?
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What's the different between your ECU and Noobdao's ECU? whistling.gif So, how much petrol is gonna be injected doesn't matter. The thing that matter is, as & when fuel pressure got low, fuel pump will start working, provided key is turned to ON all time.

QUOTE(zeone @ Oct 13 2013, 05:50 PM)
Hi Everyone!! notworthy.gif

Juz2share...latest DIY external improvement...

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QUOTE(THE CLASS OF 13 @ Oct 13 2013, 07:56 PM)
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semalam i got tiong by stock myvi se 1.3..first gen punya..driver really have big balls liao driving that fast..first time clocked 195kmh downhill...

incident happen at jabor area..road after pantai timur hiway, jabor exit..there some hilly area after the roundabout..twin lanes road..

that myvi suddenly overtake me at 130kmh..then start play around with him cucuk2 a bit.. manatau can start fire to play with him, he give me past but then he cucuk me back..can keep up till 160-170kmh..then i slow down give him way..then cucuk back..my car near to 30k service dy..so a bit slow..i havent pedal to metal yet..but still can keep up with him..i can tell that his myvi very fast laaa..after about 5 minutes play around with him we reached the exit to cherating, kuala terengganu..dunno why i ady brake to take the left exit..he straight from right lane cut to left most lane then take the exit..i can see the body roll and start to feel this guys really crazy one..that myvi like want to turtle dy..slow a bit let him tackle that corner at 80kmh..there some bump at the corner..his cars start to shaking abit..dunno how he manage to control the car..after the exit i cucuk him back..but decide not to play ..cos its b road..dangerous dy..he start to overtaking cars and left me his turtle dust..haha...

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They don't feel it INSIDE the car geh. Sadly, GaGa despite having all the superb handling, but the steering feedback is so strong that it's keep on telling you LIMIT is around the corner. To correct you, it's not that MyBi crazy, is you too road safety conscious jek rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(THE CLASS OF 13 @ Oct 14 2013, 12:41 AM)
wah..u straight know what i feels inside gaga..steering feedback so strong ..usually i tackled that corner slower..bcos of that bumpy road..i drive fast2 oso but still think of others..only sakat naughty mybi driver.. tongue.gif

dares next time i wont bother to tiong them..lucky that time not so many cars on the road..but if heavy trafic definitely will not play with him.. notworthy.gif
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Bcoz ayam habing hard time to chase my sister in law when she's driving it. From the back, I ady saw the car went senget 1 side, bodyroll like mad. Suprisingly, later when I ask mother in law, she say inside was perfectly fine. The amount of false signal (feeling to be safe) in MyBi is so huge (lack of actual road feedback), to an extend that even hitting a stone during corner, inside would just felt a small sway, whereas those who follow at the back could tell they'll be crashing in to longkang anytime soon.

Killer instinct, TitanRev is 1 of those underground well trained driver. All we do is stick it to the man, wait for the MyBi to make a huge mistake, either spin out, fly to moon or turtle. Trust me on this, if you weren't that eager chasing after that bitch, he wouldn't even dare to drive so recklessly. Just because you can do it at that speed, he's trying his best to outrun you. As long you know your limit, consistently give them pressure bite a little and let go, bite a little bit more and let go, then you can prepare camera to take the money shot already. Go and ask any of those speed racers, they did the exact same thing, pushing every corner to the limits, and the next time they try a higher limit. Speed was never a satisfaction, it's a delusional cocaine that draws you deeper and deeper. One that achieve better timing every round track, and he/she raise his bar on his limit every time he cross the chequered flag. Btw, congratulations kenjilew. This is exactly what running in him right now.

As for me, sorry I really turned unker already. No doubt the feeling is still strong, octane still running in the blood stream, but I can never utilize them anymore. At times I'll play along, at times I can't even properly engaged a full heel & toe action. I'm more FC conscious nowadays, provided the car still got 1.5 years installment need to go. I can't possibly risk it total loss. If back in the older days, I could have just left the MyBi slip pass me, whislt it trying to over take me, I could have sway my steering a bit and make him/her back Holland, or otherwise might as well pull hand brake to slide my tail to slam on their B pilar.

Enjoy thy GaGa. Take it slow, and let the good times roll. thumbup.gif
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post Oct 14 2013, 07:07 AM

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QUOTE(bwin999 @ Oct 14 2013, 01:06 AM)
Hi, I'm a new proton SV user, but I've zero knowledge in car...

How to check the Gearbox brand?

I tot all the Gearbox the same? Sorry .. really noob... because change from Kancil to proton and kancil also old one, always sent to service to change oil, motor oil, oil filter and others.. thanks god I found this thread.

anyone enlighten me about this Gearbox (GB) issue?
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Engine model and transmission model are imprinted on a steel plate located behind driver door pillar. You may find Luke's reply useful below.

QUOTE(lhwj @ Sep 21 2013, 10:42 AM)
There's one very simple way to find out whether you have the Aichi Pockai or Getrag. Look at the plate by the driver's door. If it says MFA30A like mine, it's Aichi Pockai. If it's MTT5xxxxx then it's Getrag.
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QUOTE(namiedagreat @ Oct 14 2013, 02:25 AM)
Vios is expensive compare with GaGa. Haha

Actually its my fiance who bought this GaGa. Can say this GaGa will be our soon to be family car! smile.gif
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Oh... rupenyer nod.gif So, firered SV, CBT ke MT? Kalo MT need to beware sebab takut nanti serbis mia time SC tarok salah minyak GB. Dudok mana? Nanti datang la TT. Welcome again to the big family. Still, as a senior member, would like to ask you another question since Bios is out of the pictar:

vmad.gif Huai jiu no bai MyBi vmad.gif
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QUOTE(victor131490 @ Oct 14 2013, 02:01 PM)
yes. can restart after stalling.  now the problem more frequent. 15k milleage also tak sampai lagi.
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Check battery lug whether got fasten properly. How does it it shut off the engine? Does it goes klik klak klik klak uhuh uhuh cikak cikak pfffttt then only stall? Or suddenly out of nothing just engine off? Manual or CVT? Check the intake air filter also, see whether got sumbat or not.

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 14 2013, 02:20 PM)
i got also, but trying to figure out how to join the segments la... early preview of what to expect:

video quality pretty nice, even in night time, g sensors are awesome too, software/functions also pretty loaded

bad:
GPS takes forever to lock, so i don't get speed readings on the entire speedfest runs
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve_LQST3u7Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9_aYOrQlkQ
for the other initial tests since i gotten it (on friday 2 days before speedfest rofl)
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This place always got speed cam geh, I've got away twice. Gut feeling nia, was with Luke doing midnight run.

QUOTE(THE CLASS OF 13 @ Oct 14 2013, 05:25 PM)
guys...waaa need help since mybi incident whenever i press clutch pedal there will a '"tak" noise..soft a bit but still can be heard from the cabin..happens only on idle..if drive normal dy...think that the engine roars ady cover the sound..haiyoo i drive to ganas or wat ar..fyi i just changed to 4 2 1 extractors..could be root of the problem or what?

really apreciate your help
thanks

plus it only sound when fully step on the clutch pedal
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lhwj has it fixed with extra washer to prevent the locking pin end ticking the clutch pedal arm.

QUOTE(ReaperOfSoul @ Oct 14 2013, 06:31 PM)
Walao, bro you serious ah? 2k or 200? If that's the case then I should keep it man. But my question is still not solved. Can it fit a component speaker?  icon_question.gif
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RM1.5k for that stock unit(it probably only worth RM100 in reality). They had to jack up the price from the manufacturer, so they subcontractor who order that cheapo HU can take a 500% margin.

There's different type of component set. Read the RMS watt provided. Anything below 150watt is good to go. However, those speakers with >150watt readings, your HU may not able to pump up energy. Technically, any component set also can go in. U wanna plonk 4x 12" double coil triple magnet sub on all 4 corner also can, provided you can mount them. The problem lies between, whether you can hear anything with higher watt? Or whether can your speaker tahan with lower watt. Take out the original speaker and see, stock factory speaker rating usually 15~25W nia. With a 50W x 4 channel HU, it can easily make loud sound already. But when you turn the volume to 25, the speaker already cracked. If you're putting in speakers that run good on 300W on the stock HU, you'll probably need to turn the volume all the way to 33, just to hear sound like on a headphone.

Strongly suggest you go to the back of your car, plonk +- wire on the stock speaker, connect it to your component speaker(bass mid unit, no need the passive crossover), and listen whether the difference in volume compare to stock is significant. If the new speaker isn't far too less volume, then it's a good to go. If new speaker louder than the stock speaker, please throw it away already. Do remember, the WATT rating on these Caina made speakers are all boast. Usually they yield much lower spec(including SONY6x9 3 way speaker, that rated 200WATT but can't even tapau our stock 25W 5 inch).

So, good luck. U need to do some own research from now on. Don't cincai go buy stuff, in the end kenot use waste money.
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QUOTE(ReaperOfSoul @ Oct 14 2013, 11:53 PM)
Thanks for such comprehensive reply. I'm not buying any stuff since I'm planning to fix in my Boston s60's from my previous car. The crossover states 55w rms only. So it's good to go?  rclxms.gif
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55W vs 50W is very little difference only, so yes u can use them(provided the ratings are accurate).

QUOTE(Taman Linkin @ Oct 15 2013, 07:37 AM)
oh ade tt. miss chance test drive sad.gif
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Sam dah call blom? sleep.gif

QUOTE(Celest-Lee @ Oct 15 2013, 08:46 AM)
Eh I want! How to DIY one! Got kacau wayward or not sin?

Anyway happy Hari Raya Haji to all Muslims ya!
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