QUOTE(SiuYi @ Oct 21 2013, 06:10 AM)
That is what we called, priority PROTON SAGA BLM, FL & FLX Thread V52, jit jit jiiiit jiiiiiiiit jiiiiiiiit
PROTON SAGA BLM, FL & FLX Thread V52, jit jit jiiiit jiiiiiiiit jiiiiiiiit
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Oct 21 2013, 07:18 AM
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Oct 21 2013, 11:40 PM
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Oct 22 2013, 12:56 PM
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Oct 22 2013, 12:07 PM) I just got my SS braided hose delivered to me this morning. Nice stuff....next is side bar then hopefully Mahihi's ARB can come out faster.....there's still much to do on the car since I still not very satisfy with the handling on some areas. ![]() Bro ar, this 1 got already mei? If not got, faitit plonk since you're konar freak. Plonk ady can match GTR kinda feeling liao(other than actual ground speed is different). |
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Oct 22 2013, 07:14 PM
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QUOTE(dares @ Oct 22 2013, 01:17 PM) Huat to do, kosmetik Mrs.YAB woulnd't think got plobrem geh FYI, she didn't even notice added saisket at all QUOTE(Mahihi @ Oct 22 2013, 02:10 PM) I think... both of you also misunderstood. TitanRev was asking for this:![]() He was answering me that he ordered side lower bar ![]() So, I think you still have the white rat QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Oct 22 2013, 02:21 PM) Yesh |
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Oct 22 2013, 07:18 PM
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Oct 22 2013, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 22 2013, 03:56 PM) my side bars ady slightly bent lol. both left right/up down bents... the condition looks pretty sad, but i guess it's doing it's job la ya? lol Err... I should have suspected your so called "rear anti roll bar" in the first place. When you whack hard konar, your 1 side of the rear wheel being lifted(particularly inner rear wheel that pointing towards the konar), but your both front wheels are sticking on the ground because the ACTUAL front anti roll bar is working twice harder to twisting the front struts to keep your car on the ground. Imagine, what happened in between your front and back wheels when the above happened |
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Oct 22 2013, 10:29 PM
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Drive safe guys. My usual konvoi marshal was killed in action this morning 3am.
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Oct 23 2013, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE(lokop @ Oct 23 2013, 03:10 PM) More clarification needed.1) When you drive straight, you let loose your hand. The car steer itself to the left, whilst your steering still remain straight? 2) Was it when you let loose your hand, the car steer itself to the left, your steering also automatically turn to the left? Now, go to your living room. Kang kang your feet, point your left toe towards your left, right toe remain infront. U look to the ceiling and start walking forward with your left toe pointing to left. You only need few step to find out alignment sudah lari. Human toe is the center of alignment which point our direction. Everytime at the 100meter sprint track, if you running on bear foot, you'll notice everytime you sprint, your toe is the last body part lifting up, but it gave the direction. So, if the next step you decided to slightly point your toe to the side, chances are you will crash into your opponent. This is where the term TOE came from in automotive. Don't ask me, this is some 20 years old tale my previous magician share with me. Usually run 1 side is because of toe out. ![]() If toe out/in, you'll need to send to tire shop and redo your alignment. I know you have done it, please send in again to a different shop spend another RM15 better than finish your tires prematurely. Old school petrol head like myself, we can easily identify toe in/out by 1 long string. Measure front part of both tires distance. Then measure both tires rear distance. The length should not differ. Certain home made tools are required to ensure we capture the correct circumference for measurement, but here I will not cover such topic. QUOTE(zeone @ Oct 23 2013, 09:07 PM) RM48.50/piece and you need 2. Only rear spring is different from FLX. Front no need, unless you wanna change FLX front damper, which will cost about RM600/side. |
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Oct 23 2013, 11:24 PM
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Oct 24 2013, 12:52 AM
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QUOTE(zeone @ Oct 24 2013, 12:39 AM) Hi Bro... Which xingahlan told you anti roll bar is different? Ask him/her cum see me That's affordable... However IINM 2modify the FL suspension 2perform like an FLX, more changes are needed! Besides changing the relevant shocks/dampers, there is the thicker Front Anti-Roll Bar/Front Stabiliser Bar 2b replaced... And not2forget, a change to 15" rims with 195/50 R15 tyres? Now that wld end up very much out of budget liao... Gnite, Everyone!! |
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Oct 24 2013, 06:52 AM
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Oct 24 2013, 06:54 AM
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Oct 25 2013, 12:18 AM
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Oct 24 2013, 09:31 AM) Can you explain why TOE will run away? I saw the screw that determine the toe angle, i dun know how to describe, but my feeling tell me TOE should be last longer than camber. First of all, why alignment will lari? Take a look at the picture you posted. After the adjusting nut, immediately is the tie rod. That end was secured with a diameter around 3 inches rubber. After a while you drive, the rubber get harden, more free play on the tie end, you get all sort of funny toe reading.![]() Take not, the tie rod is attached on the knuckle that host the wheel bearing/drive shaft/disc brakes. At the bottom, it connected to another big bar, which is the lower arm. The connection point is a big round thing, that is the lower arm bush. If this part of rubber is too new(soft), your alignment will lari almost immediately after you drove off the alignment scale. Just incase if you still not die heart to accept the fact alignment WILL lari, here's the picture of what normal LOWER ARM looks like. ![]() There's another 2 more mounting points that will contribute to alignment lari other than the 1 I explained above. The above are the major contributor of alignment lari. So, what about camber? Regardless, I have previously said, camber screw are after market part for those who can't afford to change suspension bushing. Have a look at below picture, you'll immediately know why camber goes out even didn't hit pot hole. As long those numbered part got movement, the rubber will wear off/get harden and create clearance. Once clearance became significant, then it become camber misaligned/toe misaligned or both. ![]() QUOTE(dares @ Oct 24 2013, 12:23 PM) Ady TT with my new boifren liaoQUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 24 2013, 02:18 PM) shouldn't be, replaced last year iinm... Which is why your 3AT refused to drop gear http://twitpic.com/aut3yj http://twitpic.com/aur02q k 403 days ago lol oh dug this up too in the process http://twitpic.com/b7u3yk davidke20 titanrev hmm, that day we talked about it, i mistaken the hp/torque. torque drops about 4/4.5k rpm QUOTE(lokop @ Oct 24 2013, 02:48 PM) When I release steering , the steering turn left and car go left also. When stering straight , the car may slowly go right . Toe lari. Pergi alignment lagi. Your current alignment totally fucked up.Pay attention, after konar your steering will auto correct back or you need to force the steering to turn back? Get alignment guy to check whether steering bush sudah haus. This post has been edited by davidke20: Oct 25 2013, 12:24 AM |
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Oct 25 2013, 02:05 AM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 25 2013, 01:24 AM) haha 2>1 is the hard part. 3 > 2 can be dropped EASILY so long i am under 6k rpm. in fact during sepang, at times i DO NOT want the gear to drop (slight down hill and considering racing line it is a straight WOT line without need to corner), it drops So, basically your iswaga is 3 speed DSG. 1st and 3rd gear 1 clutch, 2nd and R gear 1 clutch basically it downshifts for 1 sec, realized it was stupid, then up shift again. imagine that in a MT la, basically waste of torque right there. that aside, there is acceleration to consider in conjunction to wheel load (up or down hill) and what gear you are at in relation to your rpm very similar to a MT would (try shift 5th gear from 3rd on an up hill the torque converter is a double edged sword, both a blessing and a curse. and regardless of all that's said, i'm on a TC that has a design/engineering of 30 years old, not the GOD LIKE modern Honda/Toyota TC that has at least 4-6 speed gears and have very minimal power loss that lolVW is considering on going TC because "people don't like DSG" it basically means i'm dealing with about 20-30% power loss on just my TC alone compared to other people's 4g15 on MT Torque konveter turbine flow already disturbed. Where possible got enough torque it drop gear, then suddenly realize over power and shift up again? As I told you, the turbine are fixed ratio. Only external factor will affect it's gear change decision. Wrong oil visco? Transmission clutch disc slipped? Many possibilities as automatic transmission has much more component controlled by kinetic movement physically than manual. |
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Oct 25 2013, 02:06 AM
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Oct 25 2013, 07:26 AM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 25 2013, 02:16 AM) i wish it's a DSG Clutch slip liao lar and yes, you are absolutely right on the external factor. guess what else is connected to the AT box? throttle input. and i'm WOT'ing at low rpm, which by its TCU, it will tell the AT box to downshift to provide extra torque, however as i said, it's already on a down hill and i had my ignition advanced with octane boosters to prevent knocking. about 1 sec only i'm in the redline on 2nd gear and the AT box realizes that and quickly upshifts. remember what i said on the blessing/curse? in this case i guess it is a blessing in the sense that if it's a MT, the clutching action (granted, i'm not a good MT driver and/or used to short shifters) would take ages while on the TC, it's almost seamless considering the expensive lubes i feed it. but 1-2 seconds of wasted torque is still there from the 2 shifts. speaking of oil visco, on the last few laps of my 2nd run, basically where everything is overheating/overheated to hell, the AT box is yielding as well... no ATF cooler, even good fluid means nothing when its oil is expanded/thinned and 3rd gear has over 2-3 second delay in shifts. was often stuck on 7.5-8k rpm on the straight despite i'm in D. it was to the point i had to let go throttle a bit and let the AT Box do its job with lesser engine pressure. ![]() Do some of this before you hit the track - take not on how the girl reacted AFTER the pod This post has been edited by davidke20: Oct 25 2013, 07:27 AM |
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Oct 25 2013, 09:17 PM
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![]() I don't know why, only happened after the installation. Never heard before that. Due to too busy, I couldn't dismantle the whole panel and check yet. But after further diagnosis, to found the source is from there. When driving inside, I once was trying to capture from the front passenger door, rear passenger door, retighten everything also same. At last, no choice ask Mrs.YAB drive the car, I hang myself out of the side window and found the source. |
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Oct 26 2013, 12:11 AM
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QUOTE(zeone @ Oct 25 2013, 11:15 PM) Benefit after Installing:•Improve Car Stability at least 40% & above 40% of what? Which car? Saga? Omai... sorry I don't feel even tiny improvement on this 1. •Reduce Understeer All FWD car can reduce understeer by let loose the gas pedal. With or without the bar also can do. •Improve Braking Performance First time I heard... Install suspension member brace can improve braking performance •Reduce Body Roll Speechless... has nothing to do with suspension movement afterall, how in the hell can reduce body roll •Improve Sharp Cornering May be, due to reduced rear chassis bent •Improve Safety Aspect & Comfort Safety yes, especially on side impact. Comfort, no it didn't affect any •Improve Handling Stability May be, due to reduced rear chassis bent •Highly Recommended for Street, Track, Drift, Rally, Autocross, Gymkhana, Drag Racing and etc A drift car usually is a rear wheel drive. The axle will not allow to install member brace Rally car will not prefer to have any extra iron bar poke out of the lower chassis, so as autocross Drag racing, lighter the better. To strengthen a drag car, just drill hole and revet, no need bars other than roll cage Street car, highly recommended for ricefulness •Product Material: Light Weight Carbon Steel Hot roll steel pipe, what carbon steel •Official Color: Pure Solid White They said they trade marked solid white. So, my car Proton Saga BLM Solid White already violated. •Life Time Warranty Haven't snap yet, kenot claim. That's a breather hole you moron, do not seal it off. At times the bar need to drink water from puddle. Drink until vomit yellowish stuff baru consider geng cao. U dare to seal it off, void warranty! ![]() |
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Oct 26 2013, 08:42 AM
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Oct 26 2013, 08:43 AM
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QUOTE(fghvbn @ Oct 26 2013, 08:02 AM) Anyone nearby old klang road got sell ular oren can also sell to me and and teach me on the installation? [WTS] Ular Oren usedSelling off mine, used + prototype unit. Condition: Dirty abit Spec: 5 ft 300amp Prowell Power Cable Heat resistance: Up to 600v 125'C Connections: 300amp copper lug on exit, 200amp on entry. New price: RM19.60 @ cost Letting go at: RM15 ngam mou? Reason for selling: Upgrade ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() This post has been edited by davidke20: Oct 26 2013, 08:53 AM |
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