abnormal behaviour, shrimps are not schooling category, they normally wander the entire tank.

there are expensive caridinas which can cost you few hundred bucks to few thousand each, there's a price to pay if you want to have good quality caridinas.

however, for those cheap caridinas, are normally the culled or the lower grade that's why it's cheap. Have you seen SGD5,000 a pair shrimps?

So for the lower grade caridinas vs neo, neo seems like more expensive right?

Neo is generally more hardy and more so you should test your water right? given that the cheaper shrimps - neo also behaving weirdly in your tank. You wouldn't want to waste money keep buying shrimps also right.

By the way, you should not mix 2 different types of neo in the same tank, they would cross breed and you would get funny funny offspring.

No idea as I don't keep neocaridina shrimps.

But this looks to me like a low grade painted fire red shrimp. if it's behaving healthily, then theres nothing to worry.

all the best in your shrimp journey.

this is limpet or i call it as garden snails, they will breed in no time and flood your tank.

nothing bad, just an eye sore to me at least. It would be better if you kill them off.

i don't like all these pest snails. it comes together from your plant, most likely.

So it's important to either:

1. get tissue cultured plant, or
2. quarantine and kill off all the pests in the newly acquired plants before placing them into your tank.

helllooooo welcomeeeeeeeeee~!

It's very easy to breeddd!!!!
no worries, they would breed in no time....
Here's some of my shrimpsss

Part 1

Part 2~!






Apology that the pictures are a lil dark.

This post has been edited by tehoice: Jan 15 2021, 09:23 PM

Hahha sure can. Give you good price somemore as a fellow forumer!

What breed are you looking at?

whoaaa.... niceeee.....

galaxy fishbone next?

No planaria is to kill off planaria bro. suggest you get medicines to kill off the snails. Not that I'm promoting this brand or what but i just find that this med is very very effective and it's kinda cheap to use it too.
https://shopee.com.my/SHRIMPSLAND-SNAILKILL...1716.7348358135


actually no need to have plant is fine, my shrimp tanks are all without plants and they could do equally well too.
feeding them were snowflake shrimp food.

soil is the best, no need to put any other thing, just aqua soil and you're good to go, to keep the pH level below 7.

what's your temperature again? if more than 26, then you can literally forget about breeding them. they can survive at 28 but they won't breed, based on my own experience as well.

it doesn't matter whether it's fire red or bloody mary or blue velvet or green jade shrimp, so long they are neocaridina shrimp, they can survive under 30, but chances are harder to breed at 30, around 28, they can still breed pretty well. but it you can keep them under 26, then that will make them thrive a lot and will let you have a good colony.

ghost shrimp? those that ppl use to feed the bigger fish ones? no idea with them though. never kept before.

they doing well? not bad got sakura cherry and YGB.

do you have any snail problem in the tank?

then in that case, why not you try and see and let us know of your outcome, most probably you will know your results in another 3-4 months.

if they can breed, most likely they will start breeding in your tank once they are comfortable and that won't take too long.

Edit: I used to use PC fan to bring down the temperature, it can bring down 1 or 2 degree but can't do much too.

be mindful, it doesnt matter how many fans you use, it just cannot reach the 26 temperature no matter what, cannot defy science.

the more fans you use, the faster the water evaporates and hence you will need to topup water more often and this may cause a swing in your water parameters which is also not as good for your shrimps.

so my suggestion is one fan is enough.

This post has been edited by tehoice: Feb 17 2021, 10:11 AM

hobby memang a $$$ burning stuff.
if you're expected to do the hobby, then chances are you should accept the fact that it will cost you a bomb.

for example, if you skimp on using fertilisers, your plants will not grow well and not turning the expected result.
you may lose interest.

if you skimp on lights, your plants may not have the saturation in colour and not turning the expected result.
you may lose interest.

if you skimp on using CO2, your plants will not grow well and not turning the expected result. But this could be fixed more easily but also won't be too optimum, that's by using a DIY co2.

if you skimp on bringing down the temperatures, the plants may not grow well, the shrimps may not cope well (given that he is more interested in caridina shrimps which require cooler water) and may not breed well, end up die more or faster than producing offspring, you will also lose money in buying more and more new shrimps.
you may ultimately lose interest as well.

better looking glass tank is definitely a big YES....... go ahead man~! i wanna upgrade my recently set up 30cm cube to a 60p tank soon, hopefully by mid this year la.

i know how it feels to spend all this money. but generally, for planted tank, every 1ft tank will cost you around RM1k. so if a 2ft tank, be prepared to spend like 2k on it.

let me count how much have i spent all these years since i started.

My first planted tank journey in 2012
Tank close to RM200
tank cabinet RM300
ADA amazonia RM110+
LED light RM300+
EHEIM 2215 around RM400
CO2 set easily RM400 or 500 bucks
hardscape another RM100
seachem products + ADA fertilisers = RM200
not to forget the livestocks, plants, fans, etc etc so many.
total spent also close to RM2k

Guppy journey in 2015
set up is not that expensive, bare tanks that cost me like 40 each and some plastic tanks for fry (15 bucks each). i have up to 48 tanks at one point.
some air pumps here and there easily cost me around 200 bucks.
the most expensive is the livestock, each pair of guppy cost me around 250 - 350 bucks, i even fly to bangkok and taiwan to pick them (forget about the flights and monies spent during the trip).
brine shrimp, one can cost around RM150 (last only about 4 months). i keep and breed guppies for 3 years, so you count.
all in all, easily spent RM5k here

Shrimping journey in 2018
system tank setup one time cost > RM5k (including a chiller)
Chiller is not an optimum choice, end up sold 800 bucks, get an AC and blast the AC for 14 hours a day.
shrimps, i spent easily another 2-3k in buying lifestocks, give up tracking ady.
but still keeping and breeding now.
Total spent easily RM8k (not to forget, about RM100 on house electricity too) for just one AC.

My renewed planted tank (30cm cube) and a small 30cm rectangular tank
tank RM115
filter - RM130 (1 HOB and 1 hangon back canister)
plants around RM150
seachem fertilisers (almost full range minus "Advance") - around RM300
hardscape - rocks and driftwood around RM80
some livestocks - around RM100
Total spent here also around RM600+

Also, going to buy a CO2 (4L) tank set which will easily cost around RM350
plus, Chihiros WRGB II which will also cost around 600++ for 2ft (since i would plan to upgrade my planted tank).

dare not count how much i have spent all these years. darnnnnn.........
could have been a lot richer if didnt spend on all these hobbies.

EDIT: Forgotten to add my own DIY RO water machine which also cost me around 600 or 700 bucks, a lot of time and money wasted for the trial and error.
damnnnnnn

This post has been edited by tehoice: Feb 17 2021, 12:53 PM

you can try if via online is available. a lot of online seller nowadays too.
I bought mine from Fish depot.
not sure when will upgrade, my 30cm cube is a new tank, only 3 weeks old. hahahaha.....
wanna keep for a while before deciding to upgrade. cos if i upgrade, i will upgrade all my shrimp tanks too one shot, another few K expected lol......

own DIY RO water kit is dirt cheap i tell you. if you DIY yourself la.
the RO membrane and pump size depending on your requirement.

those 50G or 75G RO water kit is very cheap to DIY. 400G will cost a bit more.

but still way cheaper than you buy a ready made type, trust me.

i don't have the drawings though.

but basically basically own self buy all the stuff and put together is what i meant as DIY.

so let's go by stages

Basic RO system
a) Raw water supply from tab
b) Stage 1 - PP filter
c) Stage 2 - CTO filter
d) Stage 3 - Active carbon filter
e) go into RO pump
f) Stage 4 - RO membrane
g1) come out will have clean RO water (TDS around 3)
g2) come out waste water, i use to wash dish, etc.

Optional to go through DI unit
h) Stage 5 - RO water come out from g1 go into this DI unit
i) then you will get RODI water (TDS zero)

These are the exact same steps also, whether you buy those RO water machine or you DIY it yourself.

you feel better cos others spent more than you? hahaha, not the right mindset bro. there's nothing to compare or compete with, just do whatever that is comfortable within your reasonable means. but spending 300+ only is no big deal in our hobby. hahah

i keep the tanks in a room, not big not small by any means, 1hp inverter ac running at 26 degree for at least 12-14 hours a day, be mindful, this room does not get afternoon sun, so it's cooler in another words.

can we know your rational for using tap water for wc and RO water for topup only?
to me, it kinda defeat the purpose if you ask me. is either you go all out or don't do.
shrimp is very sensitive towards the elements you have in the water and they are often at the bottom of the tank when things settle down, which is where your shrimps lurk around.

for ro water kit, suggest you get one with pump, just a suggestion, the call is still yours.

not saying that you cannot achieve the result if you try to save. but to me is either you go big or you go home, if you save here, save there, missed this one out and that one out, then you might not achieve the goal and end up with disappointment too.

but tell you what? I can also set up a very functional tank (from scratch) for just neocaridina under 150 bucks and can have them breed like crazy too.

aircon is rightfully 24 hours on, when the weather is hot i switch it on for up to 18-20 hours.

for water, no such thing as gradually upgrade in your existing tank, is either you use RO water or don't use RO water.
When you decide to you use tap water right from the start, and when you have tap water in your tank, it simply means you have some unknown mineral in your tank which might be harmful to your shrimps and they stays in your tank.
you can completely eliminate this by using RO water only, right from the start.

I have never seen white egg on neo before, i could be wrong.
red shrimps carry red eggs
yellow shrimps carry yellow eggs
black shrimps carry black eggs
these are the neo shrimps that I kept before, based on my personal experience.

agree no harm trying if you are putting in some 6 bucks CRS or CBS.

bet you won't do this if you are putting in some PRL which cost you RM100 each.

no need to use soil for neocaridina shrimps. but soil will keep the water in slightly acidic condition. filter can put right from the start. how big is your HOB? got a lot of media inside?