On sedan city, presumably almost equivalent to jazz, i'm getting 500-550km (60% rural 40% town driving). for highway, i think 600-650km is possible with careful feet

This post has been edited by kucingfight: Nov 7 2013, 11:18 AM

the side mirrors don't auto fold on car lock... even the previous accord didn't have this feature if i am not wrong...

the buzzer sound is a mystery... not sure why they came to this decision to have lights blinking as the indicator instead of sound... but, it's no longer the cobra alarm they previously used... but, it's no deal killer...

EPS is speed sensitive... it is lighter and less sensitive on slow speeds to help with parking and stuff... and it will load up as speed increases...although it will never be as heavy as some cars...

i doubt it can do 570 even.... it depends on how and where you drive the car...

the range cannot be trusted when you first reset it after a pump.. you need to drive it a while as it's calculated based on your KM/L if i am not wrong...

that's why i always calculate by dividing (trip traveled since last refuel)/(liter of fuel filled now) to get the KM/L for measure...
or u want L/100KM also can...
but never RM/KM or whatever $/$
coz price will change...as we will experience more soon...its more difficult to compare measure...

personally also helping gf to check out for 1...i m surveying if jazz is ok...
my own city i average clock 14km/l ++

i think in term of size/appearance/features/etc, its a good car for her...but problem is with the 5000km service routine...which i also find costly for myself last time...
quite not a good deal for a cost-conscious her... especially she travels short distance...sure no 5000km in 3months...

wonder if everyone stick so well with the schedule...

What I was advised from my SA is that after the 10k service, the next service is 20k and so on?

This post has been edited by ReVolVolution: Nov 7 2013, 05:19 PM

Pls update us on the actual FC. I would be interested to know.

not an option... warranty issues...

i do 10k in my current car.. estimate the mileage remains the same...it's not cheap for me as well especially comparing the cost of my current car against it...

but, she should do what she think is worth it... if she feels nicer driving in a better car albeit short distances.. it might still have a chance of worth to her... if she thinks of it as a mode of transport and it is strangling her financially... better of getting something less expensive and still sensible like a myvi and live with it...

that's what i think of the situation... but, frankly to say... 75k ain't too far from a full spec 1.5SE myvi which is 56k + the higher interest rates... the question of money is as always cannot be avoided... it's just whether if she can see it as a worthy purchase over time...

there is no 10k service for jazz... there is fully synthetic option.. but also same 5k interval...

she kind of a bit tempted for jazz also...jz tat not sure if she willing to up the budget...
but found there are some offering for year end where some branch may hav 10k disc for jazz hybrid too...
with the 3yr service as well, if true...worth considering...but budget again up a bit...lol
i basically compiled all info for her
jazz hybrid = disc 10k (mayb can or cant find) + 3yr free serv
jazz petrol = 73k+ with no disc n free thing...
of coz as usual ppl will come to concern of reliability of hybrid...
so see la...plan to bring her around to check out all n see she happy with wat

all in all the lowest n cheapest would be going myvi..lol

the jazz hybrid is still having a 10k discount on all branches... but car has to be registered before 31st december 2013 and they are currently lacking of stock as far as i know... the wait list is actually lined up until mid jan already... so, you need to hunt a dealership that can give it to you sooner...

price wise for the hybrid... it's 90k - 10k discount - 3.5k (if i am not wrong service labour charges over the duration of 3 years) meaning the car + ownership cost is about 76~77k over the first 3 years

while the ckd petrol is 75k with no discounts and a 3.5k service labour charges over the first 3 years to retain the warranty... which comes to about 78~79k car + ownership cost over the first 3 years..

the only major difference is the lacking of 4 disc on hybrid (cosmetic thing) and a different center console and chrome grills....

reliability wise.. it's anyone's guess.. i doubt the car will fail... but the battery lifespan is more or less a worry... but, as it is an assist motor rather than a full EV capable one like the prius... the utilization of the battery is lower compared to prius which should mean the battery can retain charge for a longer period of years... hence, honda giving it 8 years warranty if i'm not wrong...

fuel saving wise, some people says it helps, some says it doesn't....i think it depends on how you drive...

Best if you could test drive both. Unfortunately, jazz petrol no test drive unit. I booked my wife's car with faith that it's a good drive. So far, am not wrong. Didn't test drive jazz hybrid coz like I mentioned before, few things turned me off:
1. Air con off while stuck in jam
2. No rear disc brake
3. Hybrid cars seems to depreciate more. Look at insight. It's now rm70k plus. My friend bought 1 unit last year and disposed of it recently. Lost of rm20k in 1 year.

Anyway, this is just my opinion.

Cheers!

Based on how much petrol? Rm 60?

As long as there is still 10k+ disc + 3yr free serv... waiting 2mth not an big issue i think...
even some part may fails someday later due to wear n tear, in 5 years u would hav sufficient spare part from chop shop for that i guess...
FC is all about drivers, it helps if you make good use of it...no use if u treat it as like an electronic version of turbo and drive like ah beng...

the (1) is it even on normal mode, or jz eco mode? (3) this is for longer period of ownership, so depreciation is not in concern much here...n (2) also out of concern...(1) can be a problem...albeit not for me...lol

the aircond compressor thing is automatically in effect as long as your are in D-mode... if you are in S or neutral... it doesn't kick in if i am not wrong...

as for the depreciation... that is due to the pricing kept on lowering with the introduction from CBU japan to CBU Thai to CKD local... that is why the car depreciated fast as far as i understand...

K. I've installed the buzzer + side mirror auto fold. Not bad!

On FC record, I'm still on my 1st tank after 1 week!!!! Haha... My wife seldom use the car since she only travel 5-7kms per day!

you can select to turn of Engine Auto Start/Stop, and therefore the aircond will not off. I know its a shame/waste to turn off an Eco feature but, just so you know, it can be turned off. But i imagine if jam in early morning then no problem since the surrounding temp still cool

How much left in your tank now? And how much your mileage with the tank so far?

Not too sure coz my wife use the car. I think it's about 250km dy and the range shows 300km - half tank. This is good for me coz my wife only uses this car for really short distance. So, FC should be quite high on normal cars. Will update when I refuel next round.

if you mean the eco button... i remember it doesn't turn off the engine start stop function...

it just makes the brake regenerative function less aggressive and make the idling time longer before it cuts out the engine...

i remember i read somewhere in the owner's manual during the short brief time that i 'own' a jazz hybrid... i think the engine has to be off, and there's some input, like press the ECON for 5 sec or something.. don't remember.

but i never tried it la.

Thumbs up for the design, jazz design always ok for me especially the 04 05 model compare to the very recent one. the latest design I not sure which one, but should be bettering since u guys seyz so.

but I cant imagine the aircon turns itself off in eco mode in jam...

I'm the kind of guy who use aircon is warmest temp and lowest fan level...sometime i get in my car, aircon is often the lastting i remember to switch on till my passenger beh tahan n on it themselves but in hot days, realy need to on the aircon first Lol...

all that said, i think a/c off feature is damn @#$%

Jazz auto stop can be disabled by shifting into S gear