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post Feb 1 2014, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(vernon91 @ Feb 1 2014, 07:26 PM)
haha, once you get familiar with the interface, you don need to know the language, that is what i did brows.gif

OMG, u played LL SIF too?!! drool.gif
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Eh?? Hi5! icon_rolleyes.gif Just had my 50 loveca draw today...no UR but at least netted myself 3 SRs....anyway we're getting a bit OOT. tongue.gif

Back to the topic, I just got my 3rd Kongou. Wow...just wow.

Sanaechan sounds complicated sweat.gif but I can understand the benefit of logbook..but I believe there's one developed to complement KCV?
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post Feb 1 2014, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(Senjou @ Feb 1 2014, 07:35 PM)
But flash player projector falls under IE/Chrome or Firefox? Yeah KCV is nice but my screen resolution isn't high enough and need to scroll up and down to see my fleet which is kinda annoying atm.
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Time to channel the hate fund to a new bigger monitor then rclxms.gif

But now you mentioned it...how does flash projector works in terms of connecting to the server yeah?
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post Feb 1 2014, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(Senjou @ Feb 1 2014, 06:13 PM)
Oh, I see, how do you change the panel size of the KCV. I never quite figured out lol.
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How do you do it like this?
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Actually, now that I take a closer look at your desktop, you may have enough room for the Horizontal ver. Have you tried it yet?

edit: oops, meant to combine the post with the above. sorry for the double posting sweat.gif

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post Feb 1 2014, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(Raki @ Feb 1 2014, 07:49 PM)
vernon91 I actually like alot of KCV features that sanaechan is missing but the logging your sortie/expe/construction was enough to keep me using it only.
Actually, you can run KCV and sanaechan together. By having KCV proxy thru sanaechan which I have done b4 but found unnecessary back when it was still less feature rich. I might be tempted to try again but running .Net 4 Metro app is taxing on my machine
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Hmmm can you give me a brief rundown what sanaechan's logbook does? It keeps track of what you're doing i.e. no of sortie, expedition, crafting, etc so that you can look back and review is it?

QUOTE(vernon91 @ Feb 1 2014, 07:51 PM)
i saw one of the forked developer merged a logging and also admiral ranking feature on his version, maybe u can give it a try

because each developer added their own feature or english translation sweat.gif

here is the changelog on his version of KCV

https://github.com/Zharay/KanColleViewer/bl...r/Changelog.txt
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Hmmm I may want to give Zharay's ver a try.


QUOTE(Senjou @ Feb 1 2014, 07:54 PM)
But now the main question remains is it legal to use KCV or sanae-chan? The features and the extra info provided was really eye opening....I mean all this while I have been playing either on chrome at their site or just using a flash player projector with api link.
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Us playing from this land is illegal by itself sweat.gif

But from what I can gather, KCV/sanae-chan doesn't really tamper with the data whatsoever, only collecting them and displaying them to us. It's like an addon to the interfance if I were to refer from my old WoW days.

Also, I believe you can actually come up with all the extra information just by computing all the variables yourself i.e. keep separate timers for each expeditions/repair/build time/fatigue recovery etc. KCV just do all those in one clean interface. So it's not really doing something we shouldn't be doing, because all those information are based on what we can readily gather from the stock interface.

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post Feb 1 2014, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(Senjou @ Feb 1 2014, 08:05 PM)
True that. But after the shitsorm, everyone is looking for a scapegoat to blamed. Though obviously commies patch is the one getting the most heat. Which they always do. Damn communists.

KCV and sanae-chan not so blamed, but everyone are just wary now after the initial "security patch" which is the api shitstorm.
Yeah if so, why isn't this information readily made available without the use of sanae-chan or KCV. Which is the main question of doubt.
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I believe commie's patch, in principal, is actually pretty harmless, but the execution does raise a lot of flags i.e. tunnelling all traffic to their server for them to do the translation and may introduce some security issues. While KCV does everything on the client side.

Well to be honest, we all are playing the game at DMM and Kadokawa's mercy now sweat.gif

Let's hope they continue play nice...
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post Feb 1 2014, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(Senjou @ Feb 1 2014, 08:05 PM)
Yeah if so, why isn't this information readily made available without the use of sanae-chan or KCV. Which is the main question of doubt.
When you start tunneling traffic into another server that isn't Kadokawa's....it is pretty much considered harmful and a security risk. And remember api link was what that is needed to play with commie's patch. And then suddenly api shitstorm. Coincidence much? Don't think so.

As much as commie's wants to deflect this recent crisis to other reasons, I believe they are the main reasons that triggered a massive flag on Kadokawa side.

Lets hope so. This shitstorm is still far from over.
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You may be right, but playing with API has been in practice for a while already, even before the patch...so I can't directly relate the current API issue with commie releasing the patch. It may be what trigger DMM and KDKW, but it may also be the case of bad timing. Bottom line is, I don't want to start blaming without any hard evidence against them. The main reason given for the tighter security is "to reduce cheating".

Back to KCV and sanaechan, even if these programs help display more data/info from the stock player, we are still bounded by the game rules e.g. we can see what ship we are building but we still cannot choose the ship we want or we know the fatigues level of individual ships but we cannot remove the fatigue without using the provided means (mamiya food supply).

If I were the dev, these things are very low in my priority because they don't impact the game the way cheaters do. It might not be considered as an issue even, because the harmless nature of the program. I have other more issues to handle, like those actual cheaters, increasing server capacity, new contents, and maintenance.

I even feel that the devs know that we foreigners are playing the game, but they may have decided to turn a blind eye over us. Why? For the company, any new player is a source of income, regardless of the origin. Plus, they also know that these foreigners are not just leechers i.e. they do purchase stuffs of the in-game store, which create revenue. My theory is that if they limit the pool to only Japanese, sooner or later they will have no more new entries, but on the other hand, they don't want to open the floodgate and freely let everyone around the world join them when they have enough issues at hand trying to handle the server load. So they play silence for now. Another plus side also, the more exposure the game gets, the more people will buy the merchandise when they come out later. So in actual, it's a win-win situation for them.
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post Feb 1 2014, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(Raki @ Feb 1 2014, 09:41 PM)
In theory, KCV and sanaechan only reads the data stream becuz of that, it is "in theory" not possible for DMM to detect it unless they are specifically looking for it
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Something they won't set aside limited resource to do so, so we could let out a breath of relief for now.

QUOTE(Raki @ Feb 1 2014, 09:41 PM)
Kadokawa has come out and say that they don't care about foreigners playing the game but dont expect any support from them or making any business decision involving us thou
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Fine by me. I'm happy enough being allowed to play in the first place thumbup.gif

QUOTE(Raki @ Feb 1 2014, 09:41 PM)
Also, I think it was a horrible design on the dev's part to begin with that would even allowed us to play it thru the API
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QUOTE(Senjou @ Feb 1 2014, 09:46 PM)
^this
Making a game using flash player as a platform itself is already a horrible decision by itself lol. I dislike flash player.
The world should be done away with flash player soon and move on to HTML 5.
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I believe flash game is easier to develop and more widely supported? I could be wrong though. Maybe back then they only wanted to make simple game, but really, who would have thought Kancolle to be such a big hit?
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post Feb 2 2014, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(Senjou @ Feb 1 2014, 10:42 PM)
Actually I was just being optimistic of my hate money shield. I had use teammviewer too but the lack of touchscreen and the lag (depending on the internet connection). I used Puffin Browser(paid version) which have their own built in flash player and it seems to work fine. The graphics seems to dumbed down and all, but I could played Kancolle quite smoothly. (which is never the case if I use other browser and a flash player installed from playstore or play it through teamviewer).

I used data and after I sent all my girls back on their expedition and everything I only used a mere 20MB....in which I am surprised compared when I use say like Dolphin Browser....my data usage was like 70MB used(probably more) after I am done.

Dev discouraged playing from phones/tablet but not sure if it is a strong bannable offense flag though.
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They say that they discourage playing the game via phone/tablets because the cache size is very limited and therefore a lot of the game data has to be re-download to the client side, which increase traffic/server load (that's also why when you clear cache or start kancolle fresh, it takes a long while for the download bar before the start to move, and a lot of things are slow at the beginning). Kancolle is actually a heavy game lol.
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post Feb 2 2014, 02:47 AM

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QUOTE(Neo|ofGeo @ Feb 2 2014, 02:40 AM)
; w;

i saw a level 38 teitoku with level 60 taihou in duel today..
much jealousy so...
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QUOTE(Senjou @ Feb 2 2014, 02:43 AM)
LOL, you just have to put that spoiler text huh.  biggrin.gif

Also yes include me in too.
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You haven't seen how I
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Today alone I got 5 CVL drops (or more; I stopped counting at 5), but no sign of Akagi's partner! cry.gif

Off to sleep first then....
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QUOTE(dlwk1988 @ Feb 2 2014, 05:36 PM)
only been a day i went back celebrate CNY and the tered still lives~  rclxm9.gif  so much frustrated taihou less teitokus here  laugh.gif



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A friend shared the manga...damn I cried like manly man I am cry.gif cry.gif

On a side note, doesn't the song from 4:30 sound like "From Beginning to End" from Winter Sonata? shocking.gif
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post Feb 2 2014, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(zongeva @ Feb 2 2014, 10:31 PM)
can't wait for teh animu.
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Oh hai thar :v

QUOTE(dlwk1988 @ Feb 2 2014, 10:34 PM)
now that you mentioned it, it does sounded a lot like winter sonata. well yea when the op seemed like Air / clannad type of OP i already know manly tears gonna roll.
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Kancolle has forever changed my perspective on naval warships. Never before that reading the story of sunken ships on Wikipedia has made my heart wrenched in sorrow like now cry.gif .
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QUOTE(Neo|ofGeo @ Feb 2 2014, 10:42 PM)
Re run Arpeggio of Blue Steel - Ars Nova tonight to see how much change in personal view after 3 weeks+ of KanColle have on me
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Read the manga. I command you.

QUOTE(Neo|ofGeo @ Feb 2 2014, 10:42 PM)
btw,
what's the best map to train Ooi,KTKM-sama,Chiyoda and Chitose
split them all Type A mini subs so all will participate in savo
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Map 3-2-A is a good spot, bring your sub together in the fleet to act as target bait. Depending on the level of your fleet, may want to bring a full-ledged CV/BB to help clear the enemy.
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post Feb 2 2014, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(Neo|ofGeo @ Feb 2 2014, 11:09 PM)
:v busy with Railgun manga,
catching up ufufufufu
b-but
hurmmm possible as well
after Hiei got it Kai Ni

other option than PvP?
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1. Put Hiei as flagship
2. Supplement the fleet with 2 CLT, 2 AV, and 1 SS
3. Spam 3-2-A
4. ??????
5. Profit!

Otherwise you can run with 2BB 2CLT 2AV with map 2-2/2-3, but it won't be as efficient as 3-2-A spamming with SS.
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post Feb 3 2014, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(Senjou @ Feb 3 2014, 12:16 AM)
What's the manga link? Maybe I read it before but can't remember.
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Here you go. Prepare enough tissue beforehand. Kantai-collection-kancolle-shoujo-ga-mita-mono-doujinshi

QUOTE(Senjou @ Feb 3 2014, 12:16 AM)
The funny thing is that Kaga was my 1st CV before even completing the quest to get Akagi.  sweat.gif

The crane sisters are damn hard to get for me. My constant CV construction for crane sisters always either gives all the other CVs(including Kaga and Akagi but never the Crane sisters). Just my luck with cranes.
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shakehead.gif You lucky teitoku you. Mind sharing the recipe though? notworthy.gif

QUOTE(Senjou @ Feb 3 2014, 12:16 AM)
Now I am crying.
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Here's the tissue.

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post Feb 3 2014, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(Senjou @ Feb 3 2014, 05:53 AM)
Ah, that doujin. Couldn't f@# to it due to too much feels.
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I did a bit of digging afterwards, and...

dem feels cry.gif
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Hi guys, it's been a while (two days only though lol)

And look what I got while trying for Kaga:

QUOTE(Senjou @ Feb 3 2014, 05:53 AM)
I never keep track of my recipe or even do logging. I take my recipes from the jp site or english wikia. What lucky lol. I get other CVs but I what I really want are the crane sisters and never ever managed to craft any of them.
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/runs

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post Feb 6 2014, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(vernon91 @ Feb 4 2014, 05:40 PM)
SS has never been easy to craft.

Using 250 30 200 30, so far got 1 Yukikaze, Kinu and Imuya as good craft
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Right after Zuikaku, I got my 2nd SS tonight. And another Isuzu to add to the farm.

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Maybe I should go for lottery tonight.
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post Feb 6 2014, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(dlwk1988 @ Feb 6 2014, 09:12 PM)
its more like anything i desired is never easy to craft
darn, RNG goddess is having a good mood now, you will feel her wrath later  whistling.gif

on side not i also got what i wanted for quite a while, in a row. ( kongo & tatsuya)
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I wanted Kaga dammit
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QUOTE(dlwk1988 @ Feb 6 2014, 09:27 PM)
Pray hard to RNG lol, i got her as drop. not sure sud i try my luck with LSC '___'
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Do you remember from which map did she drop?
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QUOTE(dlwk1988 @ Feb 6 2014, 10:20 PM)
cant pin point but it was world 2-1, or 2-3 or 2-4 lol.
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QUOTE(vernon91 @ Feb 6 2014, 10:36 PM)
i got mine from 4-1 or 4-2, but im sure is one of them from that 2 map i got
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QUOTE(Raki @ Feb 6 2014, 11:39 PM)
I lost my sanae log entry for my Kaga craft. At the time I was missing Kaga, Shoukaku and Zuikaku.
But my Kaga is indeed not happy being crafted along with Zuikaku
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I'm not entirely sure about my sanae logs but I have 85% of my activities being log.
Something interesting that I noticed is that I haven't found another Kaga yet in this year
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カレー洋制圧戦 is World4-2
珊瑚諸島沖 is World 5-2
東部オリョール海 is World 2-3
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