Forumer you are complaining against: Cyyap95

Item being sold/bought: Bulk Order for Google Nexus 7 2013

Original thread link: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2934806&hl=

Date of transaction: 24 August 2013

Details of the complaint :
24 August 2013 - Cyyap95 decided to start a thread for Google Nexus 7 2013 Bulk Order with a discounted price of RM710 for the person who confirms the deal. I PMed him and asked whether I could get the same deal as someone else already got it. He said if I bank in by the end of the day I could get it for RM760. I said I can only bank in the following Tuesday and he said okay Deal and provided me with his bank details.

25 August 2013 - He PMed me to inform that his partner and him have decided to make it a 4 person deal by offering the 16GB - RM800 and 32GB - RM930 but for only 4 person and the deal also consists free shipping to my address and International Priority Shipping for it to arrive in 7 days. I agreed to get the 16GB unit and said that I was gonna bank in to him the next day.

26 August 2013 - I PMed him in the afternoon to inform him that I have banked in and also provided him with my address.

27 August - 2 September 2013 - I kept on pestering him to force the others to pay fast and for him to submit his order faster.

3 September 2013 - Seller PMed me with screenshot of Amazon Checkout Invoice for two 16GB units and 32GB units and a delivery date of 13 - 16 September 2013.

11 September 2013 - I PMed seller to ask whether he will be receiving the goods first or will it directly be sent to me and he said that supplier haven't receive the shipment from Amazon and not to worry as items will arrive this week for sure. (I thought he and his partner, why suddenly supplier?!?!)

14 September 2013 - I PMed him again to ask what the status of my tab and he said, "I think something wrong...please give me some time to contact my supplier ". I said okay fine, but please PM me fast as you promised the tab would arrive this week.

15 - 17 September 2013 - I kept on PM-ing him to know that status of my tab and got no reply at all until 5:03pm with him saying his supplier is ignoring him and that he'll try his best to get hold of him. I replied saying I'll give him till Friday, 19 September 2013.

19 September 2013 - I PMed him about the status of my tab and asked him for his contact number. He replied with his number and also saying that he still can't get hold of his supplier. I tried calling him and I couldn't get through and when I asked him why couldn't I contact you, he said he has no phone and his previous one was broken. So, I asked him for a refund and he said he knows I'm worried and that he has to take responsibility for 3 orders plus his also.

20 September 2013 - He sent me a PM saying he got scammed by his Mudah.com.my supplier and that he is a student and has no money to refund us right now. But he promised to refund my money by doing other sales. I asked him how long approximately and he said no exact time frame as he needs to do some services for his clients and then he'll pay me back and I replied suggesting him to borrow money from his family to pay me back and later preforming his services and paying them back later on.

21 September 2013 - I PMed him asking for his current address and IC number and he replied by asking my bank account details saying that he gonna get the money from the seller and that he will refund to me. I provided him with it.

22 - 23 September 2013 - I PMed him asking for the status without getting any replies at all.

24 September 2013 - He PMed me saying that RM800 has already been banked in to my account. I said okay. I'm 17 and I have no transport so I asked the two other guys on the bulk order to check their account and they said nothing there and that they too have received the same PM saying the refund is already banked in and i never recive any reply even though i send so many PMs until yesterday night. These bros are catsper and balok who also are in the preorder.

25 September 2013 - This is what he replied me after I said that bro catsper is gonna make a police report. "About the transfer, the seller already transferred to you, i contacted the seller, and i told him it wasn't my money, he can take away mine, but refund to you, and then he said he refund to you already at monday night,

Now, you guys rushing me, blaming me, threatening me, ok, i know that's your rights as a buyer,
ok if you guy want, can make up a police report if really didn't received the refund, and it'll be good if they can catch the scammer and refund 3 of you and me too,
I've already tried that, i asked police if they can help me resolving the problem, but the answer is trading on internet without black and white, invoices, receipt, i can't file any report.

If you have the same replied as i got, you can still try other department like SKMM, Consumer Department, TTPM."

I told him right away that it isn't our duty to do so and that we're the ones who handed over our money to you so you have to taking responsibility on this and also asked him for his current address and IC Number. He replied me saying nobody would simply give out their IC Number. But I as buyer who had paid RM800 to ask should deserve the right to have his details right? And then he keeps on saying that the supplier has refunded to us! Does he think we're fools?!?!?!? We checked our bank accounts and nothing there! How can he say already refunded when nothing there!


I'm a kid and don't have much resources. To Mods and Sifus here, what can I do? RM800 is a big thing to me as its money which I saved through my school meal money and I'm not earning. To some that sum might be small, but to me it's awfully big. Someone please HELP!

This post has been edited by Hertz96: Oct 1 2013, 05:58 AM

Maybank 5570 3660 9675. NG TEONG XIONG email：edison_ng88@hotmail.com / edison88_zhuli@hotmail.com 手机号码：018-7829269

the supplier..

from http://cforum.cari.com.my/forum.php?mod=vi...ead&tid=3073232

call his supplier if its true..

Search FB for the supplier email.: https://www.facebook.com/teongxiong.ng.1

so tell Cyyap95 if he dont know do business and wanna run away, just use Google la..

Suddenly edison tan pulak..

Now with his address..

edison88(UID: 1931491)
真实姓名 ： Edisan tan
联络电话号码 ：018-7829269
Email： edison_ng88@hotmail.com,edison_tan88@live.com
涉案银行帐号：
MAYBANK
5570-3360-9675(NG TEONG XIONG)
地址：
银行账号注册地址（网友提供）：
9 10 11 Lorong Seremban, Kora Emas,
10150, George Town, Pulau Pinang.

**Since u guys got Cyyap95 account number why dont google see if he is the conmen and not this edison guy?

This post has been edited by StratOS: Sep 26 2013, 11:48 AM

Tried, nothing shows up! I found this Facebook Page but its says the profile is a "SHE". Have PMed you anyways. Thanks bro. Really appreciate it!

He is quite exposed. Is this looks like SHE?

https://www.facebook.com/Cyyap95

That account is for advertising purposes. He uses that for Facebook Like Business to show people the like proof. I also found the Instagram page but he uses them for Busniess purposes and not personal use. The other one I found is exactly his name but its written as "SHE".

EDIT : HE JUST DEACTIVED THE BUSINESS FACEBOOK ACCOUNT! TRYING TO RUN AWAY I GUESS. LUCKILY I'VE GOT SOME SCREENSHOTS ALREADY!

This post has been edited by Hertz96: Sep 26 2013, 12:16 PM

lol youre a kid dont have any earnings but got so many stuff and gadgets? (refer your sig)

anyway, goodluck to you.

i do suggest that you remove your statement saying that youre just a kid and 800 a big deal for you.

good luck!

.

This post has been edited by WaCKy-Angel: Sep 26 2013, 12:25 PM

Well, I'm 17. That still does make me a kid, doesn't it? 18> is adult right?

true. but why saying 800 a big deal? you dont need that man..

anyway, that is very minor and just forget about it ya..

just lodge a police report and pray hard..

http://cforum.cari.com.my/forum.php?mod=vi...9&extra=&page=1
http://cforum3.cari.com.my/forum.php?mod=v...ead&tid=3138323

I duno how to read ching chong ching chong, but sounds like both also saying the other party is scammer?

Look at this..

Cyyap95 has Followed by 1,517 people on his FB..

can pm zixian96. "So called" his 'Co-Partner' in Amazon Kindle HD bulk.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2943387

Maybe he knew he got scammed but afraid to say?

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2966310


BTW, more prople kena scam..

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2934117&hl= Amazon BULK gone wrong

This post has been edited by StratOS: Sep 26 2013, 01:06 PM

Dude?!?!? I'm not working lah! I'm a student who saved my school meal money for this Kay! RM800 is never ever a small thing for me! For you it might be but not me! It's not minor and I'm not gonna forget about it! Thank you so much for helping me out!

Its frankly, not that we dont understand.

But the odds of you getting it back is pretty low.

Thats why i dont bother with all this kind of bulk bulk bullshit

Saving 50 to 100 bucks ?

Not worth the risk unless the guy is a safe trader in LYN.

Bro, RM1 also money. If it is his hard earn money of course it is a big deal. Some more for a student. He got a lot of gadgets, so that means he don't need to care about the scammed money? This mentality is what making the scammer continue to scam people. If you really think RM800 is a small amount, why don't you give TS RM800 and forget about it?

To TS, I suggest you and the other 2 forumers involved make a police report together. I've read the sales thread and it looks like the seller want to let go of the responsibility to his so called "dealer". Don't ever allow him to do that. He is the seller, he should know and bare the risk. He need to settle up with you guys first, then he can settle his problem with the "dealer".

ok ok, let me apologise first for my offensive statement.

i said that because in your signature, you own a lot of gadgets (plus future lamboghini?)

so, ok, my bad. i am really sorry.

My parent buy gadgets for me, doesn't mean I'm rich. I'm buying this with my own money which I saved lah. Future Lamborghini Owner means when I work, earn and buy it. Not now. I have so many years to work and buy that.

Thanks for your advice bro. Really appreciate it.

apparently zixian is in my fren list and i already msg him in fb asking regarding cyyap. but no respond up til now.

EDIT : We communicate now

This post has been edited by Apis_LuaLua: Sep 26 2013, 03:04 PM

I just called him up and he said he's not with him for this. Cyyap95 was just helping zixian96 for Kindle HD Bulk to find more people to add in the bulk for some commission. He's clean.

I'm online,

btw @Zixian got nothing to do with this, just my classmate
and the kindle is different thing, that one we got 1 sales, and proofed. look at my successful tradelist and contact the buyer, ask him did he receive the kindle.

btw my facebook is www.facebook.com.cyyap95
and obviously it's not business account, it's my real and only profile with my real picture.

@startOS the buying from USA is not scam, just a reshipping service like others one held, and no one were scammed.

and about this, i already replied to @catsper he can file a police report, and i will provide 100% corporate with police,
but giving out IC without knowing how you gonna use it, no i don't do that.

the fact is i am not running away but here ready to provide corporate

and i also told you i am also student like you, and myself also scammed, i don't have much balance left in my bank
and i said i need time to earn money.

i mean get zixian96 to help u.. he surely know this cyyap95 if not why want to ask him to be co-partner right?

Sorry but what kind of help you need, why don't just ask directly from me ?
I'm not running away, and repeated mentioning will provide cooperate

Since you're here..

How to process their refund. Write up a plan and let ur customers know.

Simple and direct.

zixian96 studies in the same school as Cyyap95, but he says that he's not close to him at all. I asked him whether Cyyap95 has a phone and he said no, he doesn't. Same as what Cyyap95 told me when I asked him for his number. zixian96 said he has no details about him whatsoever and says that they only meet in school.

I've already said that, and i also mentioned the scammer refunded him after i threatening the scammer if he wants trouble
and he said he already refunded them at monday


I already said, if you didn't receive the money, you can file police report, and what's the purpose for asking my IC and address ?
And when police asking for that i will surely cooperate, i already saying this many times,
I can't do anything now, i tried to asking help from police, but it didn't work for me,
and you can do now is getting help from police

Bro, WE DON'T CARE IF THAT GUY SCAMMED YOU OR US! WE BANKED IN THE MONEY TO YOUR ACCOUNT SO YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR MONEY! SO WE WANT THE REFUND FROM YOU OR WHOEVER, WE DON'T CARE! WE JUST WANT OUR MONEY BACK!

1, you saw my balance
2, the seller said he refund, you said no, ok, then make a police report.

you told me you already lodge police report, ok then when police approaching me, i will do anything to cope with

1) I don't care about your balance! Our money was banked in to you, you're responsible for our money. Not him.
2) For what I wanna make police report about him? I deal with you. My money sent to you. You're responsible for it.

I didn't tell you I made a police report. When did I? I said bro, catsper is gonna make one on you this weekend.

This post has been edited by Hertz96: Sep 26 2013, 04:10 PM

I didn't ask you to make police report to him, just report what happen, said you bank in to me,
when they pick up the case, i can provide them what happen, and let them get us refund.

They're not gonna refund us. You have to refund us. When I report to the police that we banked in the money to you, you're the one that's dead! So, it's better if you settle it here.

I said when you report to police, police take over the case, so he can catch the scammer, and i don't know what you means by i am the one "That's dead".

And another thing is, now i am not sure he refunded or not, no proof for saying yes or no, so i will say let police do the rest,

And guys, if my purpose is to scam, i will just setup some fake identity and keep on running the business until it got end up,
but i close and not taking order when the first batch have problem

This post has been edited by Cyyap95: Sep 26 2013, 04:30 PM

People are doing business with you, not your supplier. You are responsible to deliver what have promised. What happened between you and your suppliers has nothing to do with your buyers.

This post has been edited by pastacarbonara: Sep 26 2013, 04:42 PM

Sorry to interfere in this.
Me myself is a small trader too.

Lets make it clear:

TS is CYYAP's Customer
CYYAP is his Supplier's Customer.

TS banked in to CYYAP account.
Hence CYYAP have to service his customer.
TS doesnt know CYYAP's Supplier, even so the SUPPLIER can deny saying received any money from TS.


TS has the right to ask for a refund.
AND NO, the refund shouldnt be from the SUPPLIER.
IT HAS TO BE FROM CYYAP HIMSELF (stop saying SUPPLIER refunded and all, thats all BS. if so, mana record?).
How CYYAP get the money, is non of our business.

TBH, dont drag your Supplier in here.
because TS deal with CYYAP. its a 1-on-1 business agreement.
as he might be "Fictional" supplier created by CYYAP.


if your Supplier is real, you should lodge the police report against him.

if all these 3 people lodge a police report on you (provided with the bank transfer slip etc), the conviction goes to you, not to your Supplier.
even if you 101% cooperate and they couldn't find the Supplier or couldnt solve the case.
who will it ended up to? YOU.


Easy money as the middle man? there's no such thing.
Work hard, get your contacts. Deal directly. X-Stock then only be a trader dude.
any PRESALE sales is all BS Scam (mostly).

Clearly u didnt know how police deal with this type of case.

A pay B.
B pay to supplier.
Supplier scam B. Run with the money including B's money.
A report B to the police
B will be the responsible party. Not Supplier.

keyword here is to whom A transfer the money.

No matter what your story whether its true or false.

Seriously bro, thank you very much for putting some sense into him. Cyyap95 please reply to this awesome bro.

Exactly bro, money should come Cyyap95 itself as we bank in him and have no contact with his supplier. And also, whether he has or doesn't have money to pay us back isn't really our problem as he still have to settle it, one way or another. Thank you bro, for your support.

Thank you bro Apis_LuaLua for your support. All I need now is Cyyap95's reply here. Thank you again bro Apis! Really appreciate it!

Both party should just calm down and settle this here. You guys don't need to drag the police into this, it will only make it worse. Hertz96, try to give cyyap some time to get the money. Worst come to worst if he keeps on insisting that it is not his fault that his supplier scammed him, lodge a police report. I mean a real one, not some empty threats. And Cyyap, its clearly your fault that you got scammed, and you don't have the rights to push the blame to your buyer. You should take responsibility for your misjudgement (If this is not a scam plotted by you). Try to pay them back. You do not want your name to be tarnished forever, do you ?

U my fren are very wrong. Police will be looking for you as well and not to co-op with u but to ask u why u wanna scam.

You're indirectly a scammer now although u dont have the plan to scam but thanks to your supplier, you;re the scammer now.

I have provide you on the 1st page with your suppliers full detail, email, fb, address and you can put your own effort to find him. not Hertz96 or any of your customer. Your supplier have no whatsoever relation to YOUR customer.

Be responsible and if you dont know how these things work, stop doing business as you will bring more trouble to your self.

Your customer = your responsibility.

Your supplier con you = your own problem. Nt your customer problem.

Trust me, refunding when he has no sort of money now to a few person will be worse.

First few months can refund. After 2-3months time MIA. Like 2 other cases also like this Intune and bruceleestore.

So you are saying Cyyap shouldn't refund slowly to TS? Ready to go to jail?

Thank you for your support. You also to have to remember, it's 1 month plus already. Haha! I student lah bro. Money doesn't come easily, that's why I abit desperate. Sorry if I'm coming to hard.

Thank you bro so very much. I really from the bottom of my heart appreciate your support. You have been helping out since post 1. Thank you bro.

He should find cash to refund all one go. I know its hard but what to do.. we all know if this drag's down everyone will not get their money back right? Ask parents for help to refund.. This things have solution and he should put thought into these to help himself.

I believe his parents or frens would kind enough to help him if his story were true that he got conned by his supplier right.

How many people placed order for his N7 Tab, 5 person X rm800 = RM4000. I dont think its hard to ask for help from his parents. Unless he owe like 20-30person.

Yes. Exactly. That's what I suggested to him too. Borrow from family and pay us back first and later pay them back. He owes 3 of us a refund. RM800 + RM930 + RM930 = RM2660.

I'd say;

1) give him a deadline to reply.
2) layout a timeframe for refund.

failure to do so, all 3 go lipot.

case close.

money fly de.
he go in.

dont drop the soap.

this Cyyap95 act like innocent, he think not his fault. Hey budak kecil go ask money from ur parent and refund to the victim, dun play innocent

report police dun waste time, if can let the police kacau him and his family, sure his family wanna settle and will refund the money to u guys asap, this budaK kecik, dun hav money, use customer money to do business, really celaka
Now the only thing u can do is alert his family, anyone can get thru to the budak kecik family?

I got my reasons why i dont trust Cyyap95. I kept a PM from him earlier this month. I was looking a Nexus 7 as well but i didnt get it from him coz i rather spent more and get from people who had ready stock and i trust.

He claim his supplier is The guy i posted but see my PM, his supplier is Amazon pulak..

So ur supplier get from Amazon also? impossible he dont want earn and you still sell cheap?



This post has been edited by StratOS: Sep 26 2013, 05:54 PM

This is my first time ordering through bulk. Next time should buy through seller with ready stock. My mistake!

I think this is quite easy to settle because we know the link:-

zixian same school as cyyap95
mod apislua_lua know zixian
its easy to find where cyyap95 schooling

I think cyyap95 is pretty much exposed.

It'll be stupid for cyyap95 to runaway now.

If lodge police report, I think cyyap95 will be caught in no time.

True also. Need to find out what school zixian96 and Cyyap95 schooling in. But I'll give Cyyap95 time till tmrw to think up of a refund plan.

I've already said, so this means you don't accept that right ?

Guys, I offered "Refund" about weeks ago, they just don't accept it
because i can't refund in once, i can to is monthly
i am also student as hertz do,
now the problem is he want me to refund at once, sorry i can't do that, i don't have that amount of money
also i won't be able to borrow, not every parents and family the same.

And guys, stop flaming me, i trying to solve problem in PM from the first day till now,
and the purpose of opening this thread is meaningless

And it's unfair for the thread title calling me scammer
if i going to scam you i won't reply to your pms anymore,
@Hertz96 what you did doesn't help at all, rejected my refund offer at very first time (20 Sept)
and opened this thread, just to tell you don't press a people too hard when he trying to solve the problem

This post has been edited by Cyyap95: Sep 26 2013, 08:00 PM

Hi Yap,

I believe I have offered you an installment plan to resolve this a graceful manner but you have been quiet about it. I tried hard not to push or accuse you in an un-manly manner. Honestly, so far you have been slow in replying PM and revealing much details. Good that you come and defend yourself but it does not change the fact that you failed to fulfill the orders. As I've mentioned earlier, you are leveraging on credit which should bear the liability of such act. To put it in simple way, you tried to do yourself a good business using money not belong to you. If the money belongs to a bank, do you think you can be excused just because you got scammed? Can you ask the bank claim the money from the scammer?
For the same example I quoted to you, let say I introduced my friend to join your bulk, taking his money for it, am I going to ask my friend to claim from you? Obviously I can't.

I've been around for quite a while, which I somewhat can notice the scent of a scam. Too bad, it was unlucky that I fell into your genuinely-looking sale. You did not intend to cheat but you tried a shortcut, in a wrong way. I've checked all your forum interactions before and all seemed to be normal. I did not call you a scammer, either. It's a lesson to learn and responsibility to be taken.

I trust you did not expect this to turn out this way. I have offered you several options, even meeting you personally to discuss on repayment scheme. Not like I want to beat you up for a few hundred bucks. Do yourself a favor and leave no regrets behind.

I'll need to organize our interactions history before commenting further. PM me to talk if you wish.

No, you never offered me refund on 20 September 2013. These are the only PMs we exchanged on 20 September 2013. You just said you were gonna refund me but you never said you plan of refund as in full or part by part refund.

This post has been edited by Hertz96: Sep 26 2013, 10:23 PM


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How about u list out whose money u still owe.. Got black n white here so nth will Be hidden in pm's..

I want to understand how much u owe n why ur parents dont want to help u.. Are u saying u rather get blacklisted in police report..? It will ruin ur future to purchase any property next time so do keep tat in mind and hope it will change ur mind to ask ur parents help..

It may also ruin ur studies scholarship n so on.. Think properly..

This post has been edited by StratOS: Sep 26 2013, 11:29 PM

I thought this is very low amount. Something like below RM3000? Gosh. I think once police notified, scammer school is found by link to zixian and apislua_lua mod, his parent will be notified.

I'm sure RM3000 is not big amount to his/her parent.

I think Cyyap95 just want to keep this low profile. That's why he/she hide from her/his parent.

UNFAIR to call u a scammer?😳
Dey tambi!😡
U r 100% scammer but cant run away from ur victims dats all we seen here😝
Just full refund to all asap then ur name will clear.
Or go to jail later ur bontot will get sula one by convict there.😁

Don't guessing, and no, i already told 3 of them how i gonna refund, and it's almost going to solve, please don't post something based on guessed, if you are curious about it, ask TS himself are we almost going to solve this.

Yes and me and buyer almost reaching a solution, so don't post anythning based on guess

Bro, don't call me scammer, if i am scammer i wouldn't fuking spend a minute here after i get my money
i wouldn't use my real profile, i wouldn't use my own bank account and anything that leak my info,
Does i behave like a SCAMMER ?
And stop posting offensive commend as I almost reaching a solution with TS and others

Bro just refund the money, it is not easy to get back the money that you own them but it is better than your entire school findin out that you are famous in lowyat as word spreads fast. DO you want to be know as "YAP CHENG YI" the scamme and cheater of peoples money?? or "yap cheng yi" the good person who refunder peoples money and deals with problems fast. You have so many followers now that you have become a star in the wrong way,if your uni finds out then you are dead. Finding out where you study is not hard you know, then they will find where you LIVE ,WHO YOUR PARENTS ARE, WHO YOUR FRENS ARE, WHAT IS YOUR IC AND WHAT IS YOUR NUMBER AND WHERE YOUR PARENTS STAY AND EVEN YOUR RELATIVES AND COUSINS. You will have no oeace when you sleep and when you study, youmight even fail your exams in the end because you are so stressed over this amount of money which you should have returned back to them. You will regret this for the rest of your life and you cannot turn back time and wish that you have not scammed ts and the rest of the people.

Its so sad that you keep defending yourself when you have nothing to defend yourself with, do you want to go to jail??are you not scared of police and jail??? imagine you a young boy in jail with all those criminals who look at you. You might even be harmed there, even jail for one week also is terrible, its worst that your worst nightmare ppl might even do things to you in there which you will not easily forget.Its so sad that a young person like you will throw away his future over that amount of money. Dont give an excuse that you are a student, i dont believe that you have absolutely no savings, are you saying that you have zero dollars???? that is terrible if thats true im sure yo have at least a 1000 in your account, not in that account but in another account. I cannot belief you are that poor , if thats so then sell the phone and computer that you are using and pay them back!!!!!

Okay, Cyyap95 PMed me and said that he has got some money and he will refund each one of us RM500 on Monday and he'll settle the rest at the beginning of November. In return, he has asked me to change the thread title and close the topic. I have told him that, if 3 of us confirm received the payment of RM800 on Monday, I will amend the the topic title to a less accusing one and will only close the thread after a full refund has been made. How is that? Fair enough right?

This post has been edited by Hertz96: Sep 27 2013, 05:47 PM

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This post has been edited by Hertz96: Sep 27 2013, 05:45 PM

Topic will only close when he refunded in full amount. RM500 bank in maybe can change the title to Complaint on Cyyap95 or sumthing.. whatever it is.. Monday bank in then u take action to change the topic name..

Full bank in / refund to all 3 person = close topic and settled.

Fair deal..

Don't talk shit la Cyyap95, bored to see your word already.

You have 2 choice now, Refund to those 3 people or Get ready for jail

TS just a student, don't think RM800 is easy to get. Me also a student, if I kena scam my heart also will be very sad and gonna die ady.

So please Cyyap95, refund before victim report you to police. You are 18 years old now!

Don't keep repeat not your wrong but is your supplier wrong, if yes, please dig him out to here and explain to victim.

Last, and again, Refund or Get ready for jail

Eh Seller, please lah. I'm also a 95 kid. Don't Toh Sui my year by doing scams like these can or not? First year of college, bright future ahead(not sure about you) and yet you choose to do scams like this? You're 18 ffs. Can't you get it that nobody cares if you're scammed, as long as you settle with your buyer. Then you go look for your supplier or partner and settle with him. Nobody cares about the second part though, honestly speaking. Get real dude. Didn't your parents send you to study?

Could you guys please read before bumping it ?
This is already SOLVED.
Please mind your language, and if you don't understand anything, don't post with offensive sentences.

Dear forumer,

Seller had made the commitment to resolve the matter. He could be wrong, at least in the way of handling the bulk. However, he has attempted to make necessary corrective actions. I think by refunding others in full amount, he has exceeded the expectation which he had set earlier. He earned his respect, and we should honour it. I urge all kind souls to give Yap some time to sort out all the matters. At the very least, I think we can avoid using offensive language.

I thank everyone attention to this and stand by us against fraud. Let's make LYN a safer online space to trade. I suggest Yap to narrate the whole scenario in his perspective to educate others. Hope this incident can be a worthy lesson to all. I will update again when full payment is transferred.

This post has been edited by catsper: Sep 28 2013, 08:13 PM

Cyyap95 has taken the liberty to settle the dispute by refunding all 3 of us the full amount. He has also presented all 3 of us with the online transaction receipt. I'm not gonna close the thread and close the case yet because he did an interbank transfer which will take 3 working days to process for 2 of our Maybank accounts to receive it. So, my decision is, since he presented us with legitimate looking receipts, I will change the topic title to a less gentler and less offensive one. Thread and case would not be closed till we confirm that the refund has been received. For the time being please don't attack Cyyap95 with accusations. Thank you.

Hi all,

I hereby confirm that I have received full refund from Yap. With this, I am initiating to put this case to rest.

Thanks.

Just checked my bank account and can confirm that I have received the full refund of RM800 from bro Cyyap95. Dispute is resolved. Case is now closed! Thank you for everyone's support.