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TSarul94
post Sep 25 2013, 04:27 AM, updated 13y ago

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hello bros .

Does soreness really indicates that our muscle is growing ?
Im just curious because at first when i started to hit the gym my chest always sore after i workout .
Now after quiet sometimes my chest doesnt feel anything .
This really makes me unsatisfied..cuz others body part will at least feel a little bit of soreness
Only chest doesnt feel..i have keep increasing the weightt but the result still the same

any idea or tips bros & sifus ?
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post Sep 25 2013, 09:46 AM

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Soreness indicates that you have not worked out that area ever or for a long time.

Person who is new to lifting will get sore as well as those that take a break from lifting.

If you haven't worked out that part for a while, try to do it and experience the soreness the day after. For you, skip bench presses for an entire month and come back to it early november if you want to experience it all over again.

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post Sep 25 2013, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(Current Events guy @ Sep 25 2013, 09:46 AM)
Soreness indicates that you have not worked out that area ever or for a long time.

Person who is new to lifting will get sore as well as those that take a break from lifting.

If you haven't worked out that part for a while, try to do it and experience the soreness the day after. For you, skip bench presses for an entire month and come back to it early november if you want to experience it all over again.

Spread this message: soreness does not indicate the effectiveness of a workout, only the lack thereof.
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this is a rather gey area

how do we know if we have work out a particular muscle correctly?
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post Sep 25 2013, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(andyfriends @ Sep 25 2013, 10:13 AM)
this is a rather gey area

how do we know if we have work out a particular muscle correctly?
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post Sep 25 2013, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(Far-KingOfSorts @ Sep 25 2013, 10:15 AM)
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post Sep 25 2013, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(andyfriends @ Sep 25 2013, 10:13 AM)
this is a rather gey area

how do we know if we have work out a particular muscle correctly?
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Do you feel you're engaging the target muscle groups when you're doing a particular exercise?

If you do pull ups, you're gonna feel it in your lats. Same goes for lower back for dead lifts.

If you're doing bench presses and you feel your delts and biceps being engaged when your pectorals are not, the you should do a form check and adjust accordingly.

This is why it is highly recommended that beginners use low weights and concentrate on their form first before trying to lift heavy. Unfortunately form usually takes a backseat because everyone is in a hurry to get in shape.
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QUOTE(Current Events guy @ Sep 25 2013, 10:29 AM)
Do you feel you're engaging the target muscle groups when you're doing a particular exercise?

If you do pull ups, you're gonna feel it in your lats. Same goes for lower back for dead lifts.

If you're doing bench presses and you feel your delts and biceps being engaged when your pectorals are not, the you should do a form check and adjust accordingly.

This is why it is highly recommended that beginners use low weights and concentrate on their form first before trying to lift heavy. Unfortunately form usually takes a backseat because everyone is in a hurry to get in shape.
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I do. but sometimes i am confused too...
need to "feel" it.. that is the hardest part for me.
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post Sep 25 2013, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(andyfriends @ Sep 25 2013, 10:42 AM)
I do.  but sometimes i am confused too...
need to "feel" it.. that is the hardest part for me.
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How about during each reps... go slow and try to squeeze and feel each muscle working. Slow as in 1 rep takes you 3-5 seconds to complete and at the end you squeeze the muscle (after each contraction). You can use this technique for form checks and to really workout the muscle as you can feel which muscle you are actually working out. If you feel there is something wrong.. then it usually is... working out infront of a mirror can also help.
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QUOTE(Far-KingOfSorts @ Sep 25 2013, 10:51 AM)
How about during each reps... go slow and try to squeeze and feel each muscle working. Slow as in 1 rep takes you 3-5 seconds to complete and at the end you squeeze the muscle (after each contraction). You can use this technique for form checks and to really workout the muscle as you can feel which muscle you are actually working out. If you feel there is something wrong.. then it usually is... working out infront of a mirror can also help.
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for eg i can feel if the machine to "giap" our cleavage. however, using bench press, the feeling isnt that great.
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post Sep 25 2013, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(andyfriends @ Sep 25 2013, 11:01 AM)
for eg i can feel if the machine to "giap" our cleavage.  however, using bench press, the feeling isnt that great.
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Check the following
- your grip on the bar. (too wide? too narrow?)
- your weight on the bar (too light?)
- when lowering the bar, do you let the bar go all the way to the chest? (just under the nipples)
- lowering the bar, is ur back curved? or flat?
- how fast are you to complete 1 rep?


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QUOTE(Far-KingOfSorts @ Sep 25 2013, 11:09 AM)
Check the following
- your grip on the bar. (too wide? too narrow?) >> slightly wider the shoulders
- your weight on the bar (too light?) >> not too light.  i increase it when i feel easy in doing it....
- when lowering the bar, do you let the bar go all the way to the chest? (just under the nipples) >> u mean down till it stick to the chest?
- lowering the bar, is ur back curved? or flat?  >> flat
- how fast are you to complete 1 rep? >> 3 - 5 seconds, i think.
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additionally, i know when i push it up, i could feel that both side of my chest are "moving"
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QUOTE(andyfriends @ Sep 25 2013, 11:26 AM)
additionally, i know when i push it up, i could feel that both side of my chest are "moving"
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Yes, the bar should stick to your chest but just slightly under where your nipples would be. Ermm.. based on your answers, there isn't anything 'severely' wrong with your form. Very likely ur body is already accustomed to the routine. Add intensity. Superset it with a DB Bench Press/DB pull over. You should feel the burn
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QUOTE(Far-KingOfSorts @ Sep 25 2013, 11:42 AM)
Yes, the bar should stick to your chest but just slightly under where your nipples would be. Ermm.. based on your answers, there isn't anything 'severely' wrong with your form. Very likely ur body is already accustomed to the routine. Add intensity. Superset it with a DB Bench Press/DB pull over. You should feel the burn
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post Sep 25 2013, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(Current Events guy @ Sep 25 2013, 09:46 AM)
Soreness indicates that you have not worked out that area ever or for a long time.

Person who is new to lifting will get sore as well as those that take a break from lifting.

If you haven't worked out that part for a while, try to do it and experience the soreness the day after. For you, skip bench presses for an entire month and come back to it early november if you want to experience it all over again.

Spread this message: soreness does not indicate the effectiveness of a workout, only the lack thereof.
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Thank you for ur tips bro..
Btw why is it my other part of body still feeling the soreness after workout .
Eg bicep shoulder back and all. Although it doesnt feels like when i first started lifting , but at least i can feels something .
Dont get me wrong because my chest part doesnt feels anything and im afraid im doing it wrongly..
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post Sep 25 2013, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(arul94 @ Sep 25 2013, 01:55 PM)
Thank you for ur tips bro..
Btw why is it my other part of body still feeling the soreness after workout .
Eg bicep shoulder back and all. Although it doesnt feels like when i first started lifting , but at least i can feels something .
Dont get me wrong because my chest part doesnt feels anything and im afraid im doing it wrongly..
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Are you sure it's not just the pumped feeling?

If it hurts and you've been working out for a while, then it could be:
- not enough rest
- not enough nutrition
- poor form

Try to use a lighter weight and see if that would hurt you.
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let say i'm a beginner. When doing curl with dumbbell, should i go for the heaviest weight that i can lift?
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QUOTE(MrUbikeledek @ Sep 25 2013, 02:21 PM)
let say i'm a beginner. When doing curl with dumbbell, should i go for the heaviest weight that i can lift?
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yes, as long as with proper form.(not by swinging the dumbbell with momentum)
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QUOTE(MrUbikeledek @ Sep 25 2013, 02:21 PM)
let say i'm a beginner. When doing curl with dumbbell, should i go for the heaviest weight that i can lift?
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Yes, find the heaviest one that you can lift for one rep. Then workout with the one that is 20% less than your 1RM.

Let's say you can curl 50lbs for one rep.

Then you should workout (3 sets of 8 reps) with 40 lbs until you want to proceed with 45 lbs.

 

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