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post Dec 8 2013, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(keown83 @ Dec 8 2013, 01:39 PM)
i dun think Tony Pua & nurul Izzah gives much damage to ATM procurement

they're very naive in terms of defence..& there's no such indicator that their query will gives negative impact on defence

we've seen a much worst corruption in other sector..NFC, Healthcare, Education, u name it..just look at PAT report..PR were very loud on this matter..but yet  do u see it gave any impact on Gomen? NO..business as usual..

so i dun see how defence's procurement delay were caused by these PR politician

thats why i think gomen shud just proceed with the business..why too much delay...??? do we have to wait until China presence in SEA give a catastrophe impact, then gomen wanna start panic buy this & that..??? do we need another Kiram invasion then wanna buy proper asset..??? i dun know why but i think there is something else that keep holding back the shopping, but i dun think its the opposition
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money is the major issue.
av8 and sgpv already take huge portion of the budget.
Esscom and esszone also asking for more budget.
the big problem now is we have too many urgent needs coming in together.
At the same times they need to shrink budget deficit.

anyway I believe we will have mmrca and mpa announcement by 2014.

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post Dec 8 2013, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(keown83 @ Dec 8 2013, 02:17 PM)
there

thats the BIG question..i think with enough MPs on BN side currently, it can give a go for defence budget increment..for a time being, to hell with opposition MP..history has shown how each time opposition MPs object budget presented in parliment, they still didnt have the volume to make it a hold

defence budget shud increase
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It is not about parliament issue.
it is about government pocket.
not enough money how to increase budget.
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post Dec 9 2013, 05:28 AM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Dec 8 2013, 06:56 PM)
like i said,wait till rmk-11

we've just bought 6 new frigates and possible new patrol vessels for MMEA and priority now is to strengthen Esscom. there are currently many things that were being bought just to beef up Esscom. but they are mostly low-profile procurement...armored vehicles, patrol boats, radar installation...

but your typical forummers won't gonna notice such procurement...everyone wanted shiny,brand new figher aircraft or shiny, brand new MBT
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Yup.
But not just esscom selat melaka also being beef up.
Perak will get two new coastal radar soon.

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post Dec 12 2013, 04:00 AM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Dec 11 2013, 06:49 PM)
a109 ady got the equipment, but dunno why they dun bring it to lahad datu
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Y equip when you have clear advantages to take.
Asking for attack heli for example.
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post Dec 13 2013, 03:18 AM

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QUOTE(randori @ Dec 12 2013, 07:53 AM)
Are the attack helis coming any soon?
Is there any sign first announce later procurement method being used for the special needs of the ESSCOM and spratlys?
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No, it wont be coming soon.
currently esszone procurement are all low profile.
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post Dec 13 2013, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(asyraff88kmp @ Dec 13 2013, 12:55 PM)
rasanya 2-3 thread banyak berita dari luar negara ja

bilalah berita dalam negara nak banyak balik -.-

negara lain dah maju ke depan, kita duk sangkut lagi dengan mrca, sgpv

nak senyap pun kena hingaq juga sikit

sayu tengok berita luar negara

#personalopinion
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Kita punya big ticket sudah keluar.
Rasanya kita kena tunggu setahun dua tahun if we want to shopping again.
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post Dec 15 2013, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(kulai_busuk @ Dec 14 2013, 10:49 AM)
Apa big ticket?
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Sgpv rm9bil
av8 rm9bil
ec725 rm1.5bil.

these not include other small procurement.
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post Dec 15 2013, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Dec 14 2013, 07:29 PM)
having said all that, i do hope the army to get new 105mm howitzers though

the oto melara 105 really shows its age
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No need get 105 howitzers.
120mm mortar on vehicle should replace it.
Sph would be another good call for it.
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post Dec 16 2013, 01:57 PM

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Seem like dassualt having another unlucky round.
As for our mmrca earliest decision would be around june next year.
hopefully it will be a good news by then.
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post Dec 17 2013, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(keown83 @ Dec 17 2013, 02:41 PM)
hi guys

just wanna ask ur opinion about this news..i dun know why, but by reading this news, my sense saying that there will be an announcement on MMRCA program winner around 2015..is it still Ruskies? will we get another batch of MKMs?
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2nd batch mkm is very likely.
tradein migs with discounted price for mkm still on the table.
the mmrca earliest announcement should be around june next years.

Anyway about the astronaut the government is looking into nasa as well.
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post Dec 17 2013, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(keown83 @ Dec 17 2013, 03:18 PM)
owh...so that means MKMs 2nd batch on one tender & mmrca program for other tender..so by that we shud have another mkms + other mmrca plane, am i right? that will be a big sum of money but needed nonetheless
NASA eh?

so i guess SH will have its way here around after 2015 brows.gif
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Yup.
usd3bil for every department mah.
av8 usd3bil
Sgpv usd3bil
no surprise if airforce get usd3bil.
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post Dec 17 2013, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(pcboss00 @ Dec 17 2013, 03:29 PM)
what RMAF can get with usd3bil?
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18 mkm @ discounted price after trade in mig -usd700mil -800mil.
18 sh + 4 aew usd2bil.
or lease gripen 18-36 gripen for 5 years + 6aew less than usd2bil.
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post Dec 17 2013, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(keown83 @ Dec 17 2013, 03:37 PM)
hold it

so tis means rafale & typhoon not on the table anymore?

btw, kinda sceptical with 18 sh but lets wait till 2016
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I am just writing what tudm able to get with usd3bil.
If government want rafale that would cost more than usd2bil
the same goes to ef.

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post Dec 17 2013, 03:44 PM

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The czech government gripen lease deals for 10years were around usd1bil
14units.
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post Dec 17 2013, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(MrUbikeledek @ Dec 17 2013, 03:46 PM)
Even their Atlas rocket depend on the Russian engine. Apparently, Russian rocket engine technology is way ahead of the Americans.

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Russian rocket technology were far ahead US after ww2
These remain till now.
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post Dec 17 2013, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(hafizushi @ Dec 17 2013, 04:38 PM)
just asking about the mkms, why so far i never seen our mkms equip with weapons?? i wonder why
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Go to mymil you can find tons of mkm picture including heavily armed and also some pic on mkm doing carpet bombing.
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post Dec 17 2013, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Dec 17 2013, 11:03 PM)
18 sh + 4 aew =usd 2 Billion is abit too optimistic, SH block3 cost usd 80~90m some more price increase year by year. 4 AEW not cheap if want better performance.
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Do you have any article to back the figure?

Because recent quoted flyaway cost were around 56mil.
http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.aspx?i...1-01-611097.xml

I do recalled somewhere that e2d flyaway cost were around usd200mil.
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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Dec 18 2013, 01:41 PM)
Everyone got an itch with china now
Even japan just unveiled it's huge 5-year modernization plan termed "beat China by ourselves when the US abandons us” strategy

And as always our budget gets cut time and time again
Dey, when china comes knockin' those deficit can throw out the window for fark sake
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We only increase our budget slightly for esszone sake.
As for mmrca tahun depan could be good news.
Next rmk could include submarines and asw heli as well.
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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Dec 18 2013, 02:31 PM)
Wait.. did I heard that right? moar subs? wooaaa~  drool.gif
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Navy cheif seem to be asking for having 8 submarines.
which means 6moars to go but I dun think we will get it anytime soon.
what we could most likely get in rmk
10 samudera type fac.
Kedah class upgrade.
3 mpss.
8 mpa.
mmrca.
mkm batch2.
aew.
asw heli.
attack heli.

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post Dec 18 2013, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(kulai_busuk @ Dec 18 2013, 04:22 PM)
Wettest dream ever....

In b4 proof me wrong, in my face
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Meh I dun think its wetdream most of them are achievable and becomes top priority.
as for submarines it is more like navy top brass wetdreams.

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