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 Liverpool Kop Talk 2013, Burung Murai vs Liverpool - 7.45pm Sat

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post Sep 22 2013, 12:46 AM

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When No 10 is not playing, we suffer.

Lets hope when No 7 plays we will gain back our composure.

Today Gerrard and Lucas really on off mode. wink.gif
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post Sep 22 2013, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(elnino @ Sep 22 2013, 12:38 AM)
Credit to Soton for a wonderful display of football, their spirit and vigor from start till finish is something that our players should emulate.

On a side note, I'm starting to pity Aspas with how the 'fans' are treating him right now. He clearly provided a good support role to Sturridge in the first half(better than what Sterling can and have been doing, at least), pulling defenders and creating spaces for Sturridge to run into, and provided a few good through balls. Gerrard clearly playing worst than Aspas today, but being the black sheep of the club nowadays, he has to take all the brunt for this defeat.
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Agree about Aspas. The guy was never bought to be the main man..just a squad player. Yes he sucks but the team made him look even suckier. Not really his fault. Iago is the new Black (sheep). Wheres the Yago Aspas video somebody posted earlier..that was hilarious.

Edit: OK..I found it



QUOTE(Luminous2 @ Sep 22 2013, 12:40 AM)
oi oi...chill down guys...we're still on top of the league biggrin.gif
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This post has been edited by lerijiso: Sep 22 2013, 12:55 AM
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post Sep 22 2013, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Sep 22 2013, 12:41 AM)
Chill. No need to get so agitated. I was actually calm watching the entire match.

I'm disappointed too, but not as much as you. These are the matches that makes u wonder wtf are they doing in training every day
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If you can see me face to face now, I am actually chilling with my drinks. biggrin.gif. This is not match 37 and we are out of Europe. So what's the point of being emotional.

I am only agitated at your comment, bro. Fanboy reality check? Cant wait to come out and key in that huh? That is how you address your fella reds to show your analysis was spot on. I dont know why you cant provide constructive criticism in a proper manner.

I read some other criticism i can easily accept them because they were without emotional attack like yours.

This post has been edited by dillonyong: Sep 22 2013, 12:49 AM
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post Sep 22 2013, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(digilife @ Sep 22 2013, 12:46 AM)
When No 10 is not playing, we suffer.

Lets hope when No 7 plays we will gain back our composure.

Today Gerrard and Lucas really on off mode.  wink.gif
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No 7's return cant come soon enough..we need the trouble maker badly now.
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post Sep 22 2013, 12:49 AM

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What is the problem with Sterling today... Sigh! We need a good cross provided
by the wingers... As no one like a Suarez creating the goal out of nothing.
Southampton has good players though. I think the ones like Dejan Lovren
and Luke Shaw were both good tonight until Sturridge, Aspas and Sterling
cant do anything... What a f**kin depressing tonight for me!! You could see
that Gerrard was tired in the end of game and cant drive the midfield to push
forward for the goals much more... And once, twice in one minute he lost the ball
in the middle of the park and disrupt our possession... Aging huh?

This post has been edited by M_Shahrul: Sep 22 2013, 12:52 AM
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QUOTE(hfi @ Sep 22 2013, 12:46 AM)
That's how i saw it too. Aspas did a lot leg work in the first half. Yeah he's built like a teenage boy but his constant movement and pressing kept pressure on Soto. But i think BR wanted some width because we had none from the fullbacks and Moses was isolated without support. I think Aspas was the only player dispensable at that time. There was no way BR would remove either Gerrard or Lucas. One is the captain, the other is the only reliable tackler in midfield. It's a crappy situation.
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Anyone that perform badly, should always being substituted or benched, this is manager duty, whether he is the captain or not.

But I would say the team perform badly as a whole apart from Mignolet, Moses, or Sakho (as CB).

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QUOTE(David Moyes @ Sep 22 2013, 12:53 AM)
Looserfool.. poor defending on the Left back.. Buckle up mate..
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OMG..David MOyes is here..
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 22 2013, 12:52 AM)
Anyone that perform badly, should always being substituted or benched, this is manager duty, whether he is the captain or not.

But I would say the team perform badly as a whole apart from Mignolet, Moses, or Sakho (as CB).
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Was too late by then. He can't really put Aspas back in haha.
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post Sep 22 2013, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(M_Shahrul @ Sep 22 2013, 12:55 AM)
Could you please just f**k off or kind of got nothing useful to do in life?
Forum's waste of space like you are just an annoying bloody creature!!
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Be respectful to David Moyes. Even though hes being a c*nt. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 22 2013, 12:52 AM)
Anyone that perform badly, should always being substituted or benched, this is manager duty, whether he is the captain or not.

But I would say the team perform badly as a whole apart from Mignolet, Moses, or Sakho (as CB).
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It's hard to say whether he got it right or wrong as we can really see the threat of Soton's midfield and wingers. However, he did replaced the players who are not performing and try to make amend but obviously it was too late.

Plus, it is unfortunate to see most of our players flat out in this match.

And yes, Mig did well, Moses did well. Sturridge as well, he tried everything and work his socks off but it just wasnt to be.
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post Sep 22 2013, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Sep 22 2013, 12:48 AM)
If you can see me face to face now, I am actually chilling with my drinks. biggrin.gif. This is not match 37 and we are out of Europe. So what's the point of being emotional.

I am only agitated at your comment, bro. Fanboy reality check? Cant wait to come out and key in that huh? That is how you address your fella reds to show your analysis was spot on. I dont know why you cant provide constructive criticism in a proper manner.

I read some other criticism i can easily accept them because they were without emotional attack like yours.
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Emotional attack lol? Wat? never knew I'm capable of inflicting a psychological damage of such extent.

Anyhow no need to feel hyped up. I Thot u r one of the very few here whom i can do a bit of bantering.so lets hope I'm still right on that notion.

I have been called so many names n got blasted many times but I'm glad some of the posters beginning to see I'm talking facts despite my negativity.

One is only a 'fanboy' when he thinks he is one. So again nites I'm off to bed. Fark Chelsea.

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post Sep 22 2013, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Sep 22 2013, 12:59 AM)
It's hard to say whether he got it right or wrong as we can really see the threat of Soton's midfield and wingers. However, he did replaced the players who are not performing and try to make amend but obviously it was too late.

Plus, it is unfortunate to see most of our players flat out in this match.

And yes, Mig did well, Moses did well. Sturridge as well, he tried everything and work his socks off but it just wasnt to be.
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I think his tactical decisions needs improving. So far from what i've seen his subs have been mostly reactive. Sterling was brought in due to the lack of width but surely he would have seen that coming. And then he realized Moses got more and more isolated so he brought in Enrique to support him. Finally he brought in Alberto because he realized there was just no link up play ahead of the midfield - so essentially he was trying to undo his first sub lol. So yeah, most of those subs were mere attempts to bandage his wounded team.
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post Sep 22 2013, 01:06 AM

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when i first saw the line up, already knew we are gonna have problems, expected agger on the left and sakho in the centre but it was vice versa. mind you, sakho can be a good cb with exp imo but he is no left back, he is a lil awkward with the ball at his feet. the problem with us today was our full backs, enough said. too many times moses, sturridge, hendo and iago lack support at the wide areas. BR has disappointed me, i thought his footballing philosophy prides on passing game with incoming wideman paving way for fullbacks to go forward.

u cn c that the lack of movement forward from kolo n sakho invited more pressure from soton instead of providing pressure on their fullbacks. dont get me wrong, i dont expect us to win every game. but i wanted more from a team with confidence pretty high. i dont wanna talk so much on the penalty not given. things like this happens to all teams.

i am still a lil puzzled. i wish i have insights in the dressing room. so, sturridge miss all of pre season and yet he plays 90 mins in 5 of our games while kelly doesnt even get 30mins. yes he has been out for a year, but i think games like this, at home, n when we're missing glen, provides a good chance to ease him back a little. prolly give him a go of 60 mins then take him off. he played 90mins for the U-21 last week if i am not wrong.. if sturridge can play with 70% fitness, i dont c y kelly cant. i think even 50mins will do him good. n still, puzzled with jose on the bench. unless he picked up a knock, this is unacceptable.

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post Sep 22 2013, 01:07 AM

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brendan made a tactical mistake today
when he put 4 cb across the back.... the team do not have width at all
and the whole team suffer


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post Sep 22 2013, 01:08 AM

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I dont know who to be blamed for that goal against us. 5-6 of red shirts in
the box but still, bottled it!! Sigh.

And my friend told me, feeling tense with any Liverpool's game can be cured
by a sex. Should try it as I just really hope we could have won today. F**k.

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only 1 good news,
Suarez is back next match!

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post Sep 22 2013, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(daryl23 @ Sep 22 2013, 01:06 AM)
when i first saw the line up, already knew we are gonna have problems, expected agger on the left and sakho in the centre but it was vice versa. mind you, sakho can be a good cb with exp imo but he is no left back, he is a lil awkward with the ball at his feet. the problem with us today was our full backs, enough said. too many times moses, sturridge, hendo and iago lack support at the wide areas. BR has disappointed me, i thought his footballing philosophy prides on passing game with incoming wideman paving way for fullbacks to go forward.

u cn c that the lack of movement forward from kolo n sakho invited more pressure from soton instead of providing pressure on their fullbacks. dont get me wrong, i dont expect us to win every game. but i wanted more from a team with confidence pretty high. i dont wanna talk so much on the penalty not given. things like this happens to all teams.

i am still a lil puzzled. i wish i have insights in the dressing room. so, sturridge miss all of pre season and yet he plays 90 mins in 5 of our games while kelly doesnt even get 30mins. yes he has been out for a year, but i think games like this, at home, n when we're missing glen, provides a good chance to ease him back a little. prolly give him a go of 60 mins then take him off. he played 90mins for the U-21 last week if i am not wrong.. if sturridge can play with 70% fitness, i dont c y kelly cant. i think even 50mins will do him good. n still, puzzled with jose on the bench. unless he picked up a knock, this is unacceptable.
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BR tried a tactic but it obviously backfired. He probably played for a draw this time but got too smart i guess..still lost to pochetino in the end.

OMG..i totally forgot about Kelly..WTF Brendan?
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Sep 22 2013, 01:04 AM)
Emotional attack lol? Wat? never knew I'm capable of inflicting a psychological damage of such extent.

Anyhow no need to feel hyped up. I Thot u r one of the very few here whom i can do a bit of bantering.so lets hope I'm still right on that notion.
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Yes you can biggrin.gif I can assure you. I am moving on. But focus on constructive criticism and if you do that, not only bantering, I will support your statement as well.

On the match:

1) Obvious tactical error for upfront as we lacked chances going into the opponent's D area. But he did that to nullify the threats of Lalana and gang who are so pacy and pass so well.

2) Dannyboy drifted to the right was a wrong decision and as he was fitted there to allow Aspas a central role. Hope that BR will learn from this.

3) Sakho is struggling on the left back because he was hustled by 2 or 3 players constantly and no help comes for him.

4) Enrique keeps passing to Moses when he is heavily marked.

5) I thought Sterling gave us option to create more chances as Aspas, although had a decent game, didnt provide a much more open chances like Sterling did.

6) My only worry is PotPot got 2 wins against us now. Hope that he's not our curse just like Bolton was once a curse to Arsenal. BR needs to figure out a tactical way to beat his team
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QUOTE(hfi @ Sep 22 2013, 01:06 AM)
I think his tactical decisions needs improving. So far from what i've seen his subs have been mostly reactive. Sterling was brought in due to the lack of width but surely he would have seen that coming.  And then he realized Moses got more and more isolated so he brought in Enrique to support him. Finally he brought in Alberto because he realized there was just no link up play ahead of the midfield - so essentially he was trying to undo his first sub lol. So yeah, most of those subs were mere attempts to bandage his wounded team.
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I would have preferred BR to put out a fighting front and get a goal or two before reverting to the 4 CBs in 2nd half. He was probably thinking of the reverse strategy. LOL biggrin.gif

Well, it didnt work and I wouldnt want to think about our players at this moment because I am sure they are in the room at Anfield, all getting reprimanded. cry.gif

They will go home, heads all down.
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Cheer up guys, Suso scored!

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