Most of us are hard on liverpool sometimes because we love liverpoolfc. remember that

Despite how we struggle (or not), or some even said we may be playing the best football in years, perhaps we are. No team can rightfully claim nor have the arrogance to say they will it. Perhaps the best equipped squad in premiership (to me) is chelsea, man city & arsenal/manu (in that order).

Us (liverpool), spurs & everton are within a fight for the remaining place just outside top 4. At the moment, until we spring a midfield clean up/proper reinforcement coming january, we sit just outside the contenders to CL places. Honest opinion, not fooling myself that we will nick it (yet). +Believe me spur have a better overall squad then us, it's frightening they can way the play sometimes (all the determination) & they haven't even click as a seasoned team

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Sep 28 2013, 11:37 PM

so we are restringing ex-chelsea rejects & old gunners guard now??

yup, hope they both manchester loses, cause draws are good for both of them in this close race this season...AND we still have sunderland to play. (still think they aren't easy meat)

missing hairdryer only. else if fellani were under fergie, he will be bald me thinks

clearly in the game MATA > oscar. I just dont know how jose' see it (perhaps someone has the finger over eyes that jose pulled. jpg image is needed here)

If he juan mata does becomes available, I'm sure everyone other than us are interested too. (esp arsenal/manu & oil rich man city & Napoli)

I will love that (even if it's wishful thinking). yup, dont mind throwing in torres too if jose wants to remain stubborn & self destruct chelseafc.

I can be impartial (& not let emotions cloud judgement) & think torres is far far more effective having the lights of juan mata who know how to play. Also sturridge first touches aren't clean. He also never clicked effectively at chelsea (even with mata stringing plays).

IF hypothetically speaking mata "does" come available

and suarez?

and ian's recent comments on suarez was...?

dont' take this the wrong way. be impartial.


in more ways than one, suarez episode has hurt the liverpool name/brand far far more damaging than any player in recent time. think of it,, IT may have also caused the sacking of the legend (dalglish) (in part)


be impartial & think about it. torres wants for his furthering is career. selfish it may be but NONE so less damaging then say what IF suarez did not get banned in so many games, at least we had an optional strike force, not crippling the strike force with no options, remember we faltered big-time there after, who know AND maybe qualified for CL (losing big-big in earnings no?) AND maybe saved dalglish managerial post (& some dignity< sure hope it doesn't count little to some).

Liverpool's with Torres conflict, was pretty much self inflicted, the cowboys AND the ever clueless Roy.


Think about it. dont take this the wrong way but be impartial. You are just reading a bio of carra opinion but not looking at the big picture. agree carra has his view but ever so the opportunity lost was suarez who was clearly ALSO thinking FOR himself AND manipulated A MOVE away from liverpool. please weight the thoughts jangan lah muda lupa. please respond. tz

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Sep 29 2013, 01:03 AM

Look, torres behaviour in not forgivable but clearly as professionalism, with the right telling he is doing his job at chelsea ? no? top scorer in chelsea, all games. no one is questioning he isn't trying hard. maybe roy is a lame duck managing torres. did you consider that? oh wait, most of us did think roy was...oh brother. honesty, come on, who DID think ROY did a fantastic job at liverpool, honesty and truthfully. IF his (roy) failings DID compound the negativity of torres on field behaviour. If torres is a negativite player, wouldn't that also reflect on his chelsea games too.

You are a passionate person i know but i think you are also letting emotions clouding my remark about what i said, IF and IF mata is available, wouldn't it be great IF and IF the player responding very well with juan mata comes? no? It's all for the sake of the betterment of liverpool isn't it? I didn't then ask to ouster suarez or struddge, did i?

You ABIDE by the things carra wrote, but knowing carra he never lets it be an exception. no?

We differ in the outlook on that, fine, but i feel there is & should not have a door close on that, afterall Liverpoolfc ALL opened our arms hoping owen returned from Rmadrid but chose newcastle, then even opted for manu.

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Sep 29 2013, 01:39 AM

So saying no to 30 something players. (else, why would the age inserted in there??, could have just left it as egomanic as you termed it)

..and there is a big open arms band wagon welcoming alonso (30-something<right??) who may be opened for transfer in january or next season.

come on dillion, killing off arguement, fine. but please allow it to come down naturally. agree to disagree when clearly there is some form of hypocrisy 'feel' to it. I'm sorry I hate to use the word but dont you think your judgement is sways slight contradiction?

ok, la for the sake of end-of discussion, i'll leave it as is. cool

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Sep 29 2013, 02:01 AM

he knows my stand. discussion for lfc sake.

no we dont throw chairs n tables except maybe 'fan toi' when the disliked fans gets truly annoying.

but tonight a friend of mine said its really, really eerily quiet. no bragging chants littering everywhere.







on a side note. nooooo,


This post has been edited by koolspyda: Sep 29 2013, 02:40 AM

No questions JoseM credentials, it is a fact he carries that he has brought teams to glory in their league & even big stage CL.

The fact of the matter, to me Jose is a big stubborn mule, AND he take things too personally. Usually (overly?) emotional people seem to do that. What i think in chelsea's situation if jose doesn't get past his own baggage, he will be the biggest liability for the club and his fans so adore him for. The fact that is of Jose's damaged his own legacy at Real Madrid.

I pretty sure Fergie knows that even it may appear fergie is on better term with Mourino than say even rafa. My opinion is that AND why he chosen moyes over mourino as successor in the hot seat of manchester united. (it's true what allegedly mourino had said, mourino credentials >> moyes, "what have moyes won??") = even neutral fan would have that thought crossed their minds.

There is a danger if had mourino taken over there, manu would have imploded. (just look at ho hum what happened at madrid) Of course the current situation at manu isn't too rosy but just look at how long fergie's early days at manu. remember it was 3 years into his term and one more lost game to the sacking, but he turn it around and built a tremendous empire with abundance of trophies.

Jose Mourino is really bad news for long term. i don't think many people can see that. What they want & like are I N S T A N T glory. yup, i suppose its mutually benefiting all parties at chelseafc.

mourino is a hellava passionate manager but he lets his uncontrollable antics get the better of him.


I know and in many Lfc supporters know torres will never play for Lfc again. (reasons I stated before). The fact of the matter in the discussion was IF, and IF. I also would say juan mata joining us is as hoping to see hailey's comet every year. wishful thinking. perhaps when he is way pass 30 of age. Not under current situation where fsg is also looking to build the extension at anfield.

Live with it guys. That why i suppose some would say 'manage your expectations'.

Win tonight is difficult but not impossible, cool heads amongst the players will hopefully yield a favourable result knowing all other rival teams faltered this weekend (bar arsenal)

As i said, watch chelsea & arsenal this season.

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Sep 29 2013, 12:27 PM

Truthfully I think Robbie was right. Torres allowed his emotions get better of him. In the first half Vertonghen had him in his bag, Vertonghen was checking Chelsea players n torres (esp) really icy-viking hard tackles. What we did get to see if it allowed to go on Vertonghen would have made it bloodied if he is allowed too.

Fernando Torres let it gets his head, that's Jose mourino for you, half time talking & probably whispers of "don't let the little man get better of you, do what you have to do to get him (Vertonghen) to Kau tau to you. " that's Jose at his best, he is does that very well. Mourino knows just what to tell a man to leap over the edge for him"

The exchanges were in fact, quite sissy-like, sorry to have to say that. I am in the same view. But that's mourino's team. Poke eye, poke nose. I know fist fighting aren't allowed & would have been straight red in the first exchange.

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Sep 29 2013, 12:43 PM

Strong line up.

Sunderland is playing with passion n courage but little disorganized.

Hope we prevail on the attacks n whack in a goal. Steady guys

Just keep our heads. Sunderland just want to prove something, managerless (abiet temp) and are just playing without a proper strategy.

We should not play their game. We can win this.

Wtff are we giving away balls (possession) from free kicks

Nice (arm) goal sturidge

Stroke of several lady luck on our side. (mino flap)

Things are no in favour for Sunderland

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Sep 29 2013, 11:34 PM

Goal Suarez . Nice play

Gerrard - sturidge - Suarez

Good play. No tiki taka but g saw the opportunity .

Mignolet is a bunch of nerves

Sunderland is quite headless now. Play with only heart n you can only go so far.

Nonetheless we were shaky but I think we just need to composure performance from Suarez-sturidge combo. We can go far.

The midfield aspect. Hopefully we will sort this out soon in January.

Please add more goals in this match as we need to catch up on goal difference later stages