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 Liverpool Kop Talk 2013, Burung Murai vs Liverpool - 7.45pm Sat

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koolspyda
post Sep 21 2013, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 21 2013, 12:07 PM)
funny how now everyone expects LFC to not win anymore tongue.gif
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We have seen over 24 years & several false dawn. We know it will take time. We don't buy the fact others may claim we are championship material. WE ARE NOT. we are miles away, not yet anyway.

WE don't delude ourself, unlike some who don the invisible cape (i.e. "emperor with no clothes") we are & should stay grounded always.

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post Sep 21 2013, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Sep 21 2013, 11:25 AM)
We have seen over 24 years & several false dawn. We know it will take time. We don't buy the fact others may claim we are championship material. WE ARE NOT. we are miles away, not yet anyway.

WE don't delude ourself, unlike some who don the invisible cape (i.e. "emperor with no clothes") we are & should stay grounded always.
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no one said we were championship material.
but to always think the team is going to lose? that belongs to the Woy era.
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post Sep 21 2013, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 21 2013, 10:36 AM)
whats the point of bringing in Mata? where is the logic?
just to back up Coutinho when he returns from injury?
wouldnt that put Mata back to where he was at Chelsea behind Oscar? and in the end we end up with another expensive bench warmer?
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We take mata and then give them back moses.problem solved smile.gif
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post Sep 21 2013, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 21 2013, 11:30 AM)
no one said we were championship material.
but to always think the team is going to lose? that belongs to the Woy era.
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It's a coping mechanism. If you expect things to turn sour then it's easier to swallow when it happens. If you end up winning, well you just join the party. I'm not the most optimistic person, but i think it's a bit crazy to not give your team a chance to win.
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post Sep 21 2013, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(lilredridinghood @ Sep 20 2013, 04:19 PM)
Nostalgia, is, denial tongue.gif
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QUOTE(hfi @ Sep 21 2013, 11:35 AM)
It's a coping mechanism. If you expect things to turn sour then it's easier to swallow when it happens. If you end up winning, well you just join the party. I'm not the most optimistic person, but i think it's a bit crazy to not give your team a chance to win.
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post Sep 21 2013, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(Sifha238 @ Sep 21 2013, 10:57 AM)
against Soton will be another draw, huge win for bookie since many will go for Liverpool win
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shocking.gif In that case, Liverpool can win only 5 matches every season because most people will go for Liverpool win when they play Sunderland, Soton, Crystal Palace, etc tongue.gif

I think bookies will go the other way round. Couts out and odds slightly drop and dont favor Liverpool. tongue.gif
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post Sep 21 2013, 11:49 AM

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In regards to Mata, If he's available at the right price and fond with the idea of coming to LFC, it would be madness to turn him down. He's miles ahead of Coutinho in terms of development. You be getting someone whose productivity has been nothing but quality last couple of seasons and only just entering pinnacle stage of his career.

/coping mechansm engaged
But it's a pipe dream. Will not happen.


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post Sep 21 2013, 11:54 AM

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The mentality of us should always focus on winning and throw every doubts away.

If we are all players here, I am sure BR will throw most of the pessimist in this forum out and let them go fishing.

Last thing we want is people giving no confidence and keep predicting we are getting into trouble. Reality is, we will lose points at some point, but it's a marathon, and it's not the end of the world.

To see so many non-positive thinking is really baffling. Sounds abit like my mum who always predict the worst out of every situation. Seriously, it makes it feel better huh when the worst happens? TOTAL FACEPALM
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What time is the match?
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post Sep 21 2013, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(swks26 @ Sep 21 2013, 12:11 PM)
What time is the match?
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9:55pm, astro 812 and 832

You will never walk alone! Tonight order sotong and see how reds win soton laugh.gif
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QUOTE(swks26 @ Sep 21 2013, 12:11 PM)
What time is the match?
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the match ended already, that's why ppl saying LFC lost.
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post Sep 21 2013, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 21 2013, 12:19 PM)
the match ended already, that's why ppl saying LFC lost.
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QUOTE(harry1125 @ Sep 21 2013, 12:18 PM)
9:55pm, astro 812 and 832

You will never walk alone! Tonight order sotong and see how reds win soton laugh.gif
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Kk thanks.

QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 21 2013, 12:19 PM)
the match ended already, that's why ppl saying LFC lost.
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You are one cheeky kent mate.
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Moses has spoken ....

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post Sep 21 2013, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Sep 21 2013, 12:54 PM)
The mentality of us should always focus on winning and throw every doubts away.

If we are all players here, I am sure BR will throw most of the pessimist in this forum out and let them go fishing.

Last thing we want is people giving no confidence and keep predicting we are getting into trouble. Reality is, we will lose points at some point, but it's a marathon, and it's not the end of the world.

To see so many non-positive thinking is really baffling. Sounds abit like my mum who always predict the worst out of every situation. Seriously, it makes it feel better huh when the worst happens? TOTAL FACEPALM
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Alright for one, from experience tells me otherwise. I'm not like mr.positive A, everything also must always act P O S I T I V E (one).

Like those "Happy morning everyone", "Today we will chant 100 times, We will WIN, we will WIN, be positives everyone" or like insurance agents "Today we will make 100 sales stay positive people", "*Hang out with only WINNERS, not losers, stay away from them as they are negative people". And those MLM will drum 1000% positive thinking to all their downliners "WE CAN DO IT, WE CAN DO IT" and then go out to do their thingy. < it works for them but i'm not built that way. I don't think i can live in their (bubble) world. tongue.gif

I would like to think i live in the grounded world. I'm not those machas with those "Be A WINNER or be square" banners plastered on their foreheads. wink.gif


Games come & go, there are 50:50 chance to win. in some games maybe lesser after knowing our current strength & on past records against such opposition(s) from experience. call it coping mechanism or excuses as how i think those mlm people coin those term.

I got a thinking cap that says as much as i would prefer & like that we are on the pinnacle of the league table by mid season, from experience (looking at the squad & how we play/cope with opposition), it would be difficult. (though noting is impossible) but very, very hard for even a betting man to place his life savings that we are above all the big 4 club mid season. cool2.gif ok?

when you are down in KL, i'll buy you a drink la. smile.gif cool2.gif @dillionyong





*perhaps i guess, for the reasons i'm not in those forbes rich people's circle is I'm not built like those mr positive type of people (bummer) sweat.gif

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We will be celebrating for 3points by eating sotong goreng!!!
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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Sep 21 2013, 12:34 PM)
Alright for one, from experience tells me otherwise. I'm not like mr.positive A, everything also must be always act P O S I T I V E (one).

Like those "Happy morning everyone", "Today we will chant 100 times, We will WIN, we will WIN, be positives everyone" or like insurance agents "Today we will make 100 sales stay positive people", "Hang out with only WINNERS, not losers, stay away from them as they are negative people". And those MLM will drum 1000% positive thinking to all their downliners "WE CAN DO IT, WE CAN DO IT" and then go out to do their thingy. < it work for them but i'm not built that way. I don't think i can live in their bubble world.  tongue.gif

I would like to think i live in the grounded world. I'm not those machas with those "Be A WINNER or be square" banners hung on their foreheads.  wink.gif
Games come & go, there are 50:50 chance to win. in some games maybe lesser after knowing our current strength & on past records against such opposition(s) from experience. call it coping mechanism or excuses as how i think those mlm people coin those term.

I got a thinking cap that says as much as i would prefer & like we are on the pinnacle of the league table even by mid season, from experience (looking at the squad & how we play/cope with opposition), it would be difficult. (though noting is impossible) but very, very hard for even a betting man to place his life savings that we are above all the big 4 club mid season.  cool2.gif  ok?

when you are down in KL, i'll buy you a drink la. @dillionyong
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It's not about you la, Bro. I see some of the other Bros here really prefer to be pessimists in order to be safer perhaps?

So when the bad result happens, they will say "SEE. I TOLD YOU SO!"

When the good result comes, they will say "I AM GLAD THAT I WAS WRONG. It;s good for the team"

Either way, they are always on the safe side. That kind of mentality and support for LFC is as pale as a sheep's skin.

Some matches we may not win, but I choose to cheer up. I choose to move on instead of predicting we may not win each time we face abit of hiccups.

There's a saying you put a curse to something 300 times, it will happen. So I hope the pessimists will learn. Just support the team and discuss strategy. We got a problem here, yes, Couts is out. What is the best way to win? Focus on that rather than dwelling in sorrow.
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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ Sep 21 2013, 12:27 PM)
Moses has spoken ....
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Here's the deal. If you the manager and you want the players to break into top 4 and win whatever there is to win, how do you mentally prepare for it? I think realistically, a team like ours will need to overachieve to meet this objective. For this to happen, you really need to embed a superior complex into the team. If you set the standard for 4th then coming short of meeting that aim gets you no where. But if you set the bar so high as to finish first then coming of short should in theory put you in top 4 finish.

For some reason, people find this a bit bizarre, and that's probably because we have been underachieving for so long that we've probably adapted an inferior complex. But the manager cannot afford to dwell on it. It doesn't matter if the team isn't good enough. What matters is that he needs them to believe that they are worthy of being in top 4.
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post Sep 21 2013, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ Sep 21 2013, 12:27 PM)
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Yes we CAN win the premier League. Hehe. TBF, technically, all 20 teams in the PL CAN win the PL. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(lerijiso @ Sep 21 2013, 12:52 PM)
Yes we CAN win the premier League. Hehe. TBF, technically, all 20 teams in the PL CAN win the PL.  tongue.gif

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Realistically, the mathematical assessment would be, if till November we still lead the table, then it is all about doing well against Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs and Man City by getting at least a draw. If we can do that going into Christmas, we may have an outside chance as most of the 2nd half of the season are home games against tough teams.

Nevertheless, whether we win or not, we are definitely strong bet to qualify for UCL if we keep pacing ahead.

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