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post Jun 2 2006, 10:57 PM, updated 20y ago

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guys/girls.. noe where to buy steroids ma?

ppl keep saying steroid steroid.. i wan try 1 biji..
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post Jun 2 2006, 11:09 PM

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u hv steroid.. in ur own body...

there is a lot of steroid drug used for diff medication purpose... steroid for bodybuilding is for sure is drug abuse...

u want steroid.. go get a salbutamol inhaler.. it is used for asthmatic.. or if u are a male.. go get oestrogen.. and u will get a breast too.. or get long term steroid abuse, for cushing's syndrome..
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steroid for asthma treatment will get your get FAT!
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post Jun 2 2006, 11:12 PM

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walau... as conclusion steroid = DANGEROUS?
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QUOTE(apple23 @ Jun 2 2006, 11:12 PM)
walau... as conclusion steroid =  DANGEROUS?
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+ steroid for extra muscle!
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post Jun 2 2006, 11:31 PM

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i need muscle o.. but then i dunwan die early... i need muscles.. ASAP.. rugby comp is just so so near.. 2 more weeks comp liao
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QUOTE(apple23 @ Jun 2 2006, 11:12 PM)
walau... as conclusion steroid =  DANGEROUS?
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So if one suggest that you inject yourself with aids to make yourself grow stronger do you:-

1)wiki to find out more info about AIDS.
2)Ask the people on the forums on where one could obtain it.

To summarize my point don't jump into conclusions and make a fool out of yourself. Steroid is bad unless your perscribed by the doctor.
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post Jun 2 2006, 11:48 PM

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from steroids to aids? wtf...
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No im just giving an example, seems to me your pretty informed on what AIDS is but what about steroids? Get my point?
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post Jun 3 2006, 12:02 AM

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yea.. get it now after 12 time reading it.. thx..
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I've got a friend who's on steroids for medical purposes. He's BIG now. He's also very very FAT. If you want to take steroids, be sure to have an intensive training regimen to turn all that extra weight into muscle. Not as convenient as it sounds eh? Don't forget all the medical risks associated with steroid use like kidney damage and long term health probs.
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in another words, ur whole body is made out of steroid. Ur cell membran is actually a steroid-protein
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post Jun 3 2006, 01:33 AM

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i thought eat steroid terus jadi mr universe.. lolz
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steroids can also cause kidney and liver failures, heart problems and shrinking of the family jewels.

also theres some videos on the internet showing how steroid abuse(very common, once people start, they get addicted to the quick muscle mass build up) can cause muscles to explode.

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it is funny how ppl abuse drugs... and at last become a fool of themself.. so stay away is more better than try.. there is no such drug tat dont have any side effects..

actually not only steroid, most of the drugs caused kidney and liver damage in long term..
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i think for men the possibility of shrinking family jewels is much more of a deterent than kidney/liver damage lol.
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if your body can support it then go for it if not youll die !

its that simple!
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Jun 3 2006, 01:01 PM)
if your body can support it then go for it if not youll die !

its that simple!
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har? not that body can support it or not... if u need for medicinal purpose, benefit outweigh the risk of the drug, then go for it.. but if simply for threadstarter request, take steroid because of curiosity or recreational purpose, then please dont ever think of it again..


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i agree, if you're prescribed steroids for medicinal purposes then by all means take the steroids. but if you're just looking to get fit faster or want to try them out for the heck of it(btw thats how 90% of all drug addicts and smokers get hooked), then just avoid it.

why risk turning your jewels into prunes over steroids if all you're taking them for is to try or to speed up body building.
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QUOTE(malaysianPotato @ Jun 3 2006, 06:15 PM)

why risk turning your jewels into prunes over steroids if all you're taking them for is to try or to speed up body building.
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don't forget the man breasts that comes with them too. You don't want man breasts. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(malaysianPotato @ Jun 3 2006, 02:40 AM)
steroids can also cause kidney and liver failures, heart problems and shrinking of the family jewels.

also theres some videos on the internet showing how steroid abuse(very common, once people start, they get addicted to the quick muscle mass build up) can cause muscles to explode.
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QUOTE(malaysianPotato @ Jun 3 2006, 07:15 PM)
i agree, if you're prescribed steroids for medicinal purposes then by all means take the steroids. but if you're just looking to get fit faster or want to try them out for the heck of it(btw thats how 90% of all drug addicts and smokers get hooked), then just avoid it.

why risk turning your jewels into prunes over steroids if all you're taking them for is to try or to speed up body building.
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Earn extra muscle but
comes together with more uninvited disease or problems
not only Dangerous n Risky!
but menyusahkan...

Go to gym more frequent la bro!
Put on effort, n try to take power bar
or milk that specially for muscle builder
to get extra energy instead of extra muscle directly
it will be more save n guarantee
satisfied result... u will be more proud to show them to others
since it is ur own effort
furthermore, u puas hati meh!

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haha i dont bother with protein shakes and all that stuff, just good eating and good exercise gets me where i want. i dont want to turn into sylvester stallone sweat.gif
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Why bother having muscles like batista...ppl that take steroids is so stupiak...
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Look at this stupid thread! We have young people looking for the use of anabolic steroids. And some are saying it's ok to take it. Yeah sure, let's all ignore the long term side effects. Let's all cheat our way the build huge muscles the easy way and suffer later in life.
I'm a natural bodybuilder and i'm aware of the shit steroids do to your body. Not to mention the fact that I had a second degree friend who wa sa competitor in bodybuilding who died at the age of 29 years old due to a heart attack. Seems that he was a steroid user/abuser.
Gynaecomastia, acromegaly, hepatomegaly, liver failure, kidney failure, heart failure, etc etc. Just to name a few.
You wanna get muscles, do it the plain old fashioned way with proper exercise and good healthy clean food.
You don't need Vitamin S to get 17 inch arms.
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QUOTE(fiecks84 @ Jun 4 2006, 01:26 AM)
Earn extra muscle but
comes together with more uninvited disease or problems
not only Dangerous n Risky!
but menyusahkan...

Go to gym more frequent la bro!
Put on effort, n try to take power bar
or milk that specially for muscle builder
to get extra energy instead of extra muscle directly
it will be more save n guarantee
satisfied result... u will be more proud to show them to others
since it is ur own effort
furthermore, u puas hati meh!
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Good points. It's great to know there are some people here with common sense. However, i don't agree with powerbars. Natural, clean protein will do. Example, a powerbar may have around 23 grams of protein and costs more than 10 bucks. A can of tuna costs from around 2.60 to 4 bucks. But yeah, you got the concept right.
You guys don't need to go to the gym 6 days a week, 2 hours per session. All you need is just 2-3 times a week. Your muscles grow in the kitchen and when you're sleeping, not in the gym. Rest days are more important than workout days.

Everyone's looking for a magic formula or the magic supplement to build muscle fast. Ridiculous! I know some friends on bodybuilding.com who're HUGE without taking any form of supplements or steroids. Just very good nutrition. You guys wanna get big, do it wisely, don't overdo it.

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You want smaller balls, weaker heart and b**** tits, go ahead and take steroids.
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post Jun 5 2006, 11:21 AM

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***... so teruk meh makan 1 steroid pill.. lolz... dun wan eat liao
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QUOTE(apple23 @ Jun 5 2006, 11:21 AM)
***... so teruk meh makan 1 steroid pill.. lolz... dun wan eat liao
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You think makan one steroid pill only will do anything for you ah? biggrin.gif

One pill will have almost zero effect lah, lol. You think take one pill can already add 1" to your muscles?

I suggest it's best you do not start getting into the habit of taking steroids.
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QUOTE(apple23 @ Jun 5 2006, 12:21 PM)
***... so teruk meh makan 1 steroid pill.. lolz... dun wan eat liao
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if there is one.. there is second too.. then will be third lo.. or watsoever.. better close this thread la..
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Jun 4 2006, 03:22 PM)
Good points. It's great to know there are some people here with common sense. However, i don't agree with powerbars. Natural, clean protein will do. Example, a powerbar may have around 23 grams of protein and costs more than 10 bucks. A can of tuna costs from around 2.60 to 4 bucks. But yeah, you got the concept right.
You guys don't need to go to the gym 6 days a week, 2 hours per session. All you need is just 2-3 times a week. Your muscles grow in the kitchen and when you're sleeping, not in the gym. Rest days are more important than workout days.

Everyone's looking for a magic formula or the magic supplement to build muscle fast. Ridiculous! I know some friends on bodybuilding.com who're HUGE without taking any form of supplements or steroids. Just very good nutrition. You guys wanna get big, do it wisely, don't overdo it.
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After reading through ur comments, I think back
n I agree with you. Fish is one of the main source for protein
n protein helps build muscle!
Instead of taking steroid n abuse ur future
why not taking protein rich foods more!

I also firmly believe that u don't need to go to gym
for 6 days a week, it will make ur muscle injured
the best way is 3 times a week, one day go n one day off
juz repeat it... Mon, Wed, Fri, Sun, Tue, Thur, Sat... and so on.
This will help ur muscle grow consistently and enough rest!
Don't focus on the number of repeating of every exe
but focus on quality, some guys repeat up to 50 times
but better do it slow, n let ur muscle enjoy it
not suffer with the exe! 10 times n two/three session for every exe

Yes, there is no magic way!
U put on effort, u get it!
U eat a lot fat, earn extra fat lor!
hahaha

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post Jun 5 2006, 11:18 PM

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i wan six pack i wan six pack..
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500 situps a day will get you a six pack, before you say thats too much, brittney spears does more than that. are you tellin me britney spears is tougher than you?! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Jun 3 2006, 01:12 AM)
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Anabolic steroids for muscle building and corticosteroids used in asthma are two different substance lar.....

LOL people shouldn't be so ignorant about this as the outcome could be fatal.
Its just like MDMA=ectasy is different from MDA, you could die from stupid mistakes like this.

Anyway abusing drug is definately no no as alot of people on this thread has already emphasize...love your body people!
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well good things dont come for free

if u take steroid u will gain muscle and body size but bear in mind it will cost you something else...

the steroid actually makes a fake impulse which subtitutes the brain impulse and send it to the endocrine that produce hormone and stimulate more hormones to increase your muscle but in the process that is supposed to be sent to your testicle will be lessen and thus in long time term u will suffer from erectile dysfunction early
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QUOTE(bellatrix @ Jun 6 2006, 10:18 PM)
Anabolic steroids for muscle building and corticosteroids used in asthma are two different substance lar.....

LOL people shouldn't be so ignorant about this as the outcome could be fatal.
Its just like MDMA=ectasy is different from MDA, you could die from stupid mistakes like this.

Anyway abusing drug is definately no no as alot of people on this thread has already emphasize...love your body people!
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hehe... both anabolic steroid and corticosteroid is diff substances.. but they are of same class termed steroid..

anabolic steroid build up body.. so as corticosteroid (such as budesonide for asthmatic, also can build up body leading to cushing syndrome)..

actually steroid is just too widely definitive...

anabolic steroid such as aldosterone is abused to reduce water content hence reduce weight (important in sport like weight-lifting, boxing etc).. other type of anabolic steroid is used for growth retardation is abused for enhancing performance and sort of..

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anabolic steroid mimics testosterone by binding to steroid hormone receptor proteins.

the abundance of testosterone synthetic or otherwise signals your balls not to make testosterone. your body is an efficient machine in conserving its resources. if you don't use it, you lose it.

steroid doesn't send impulse or make or whatever stimulate endocrine to produce more hormones, if it does, you will be increasing your libido not ruining it.

enough misinformation. stop pulling facts out of your arse.

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^ yup.. true..

anabolic steroid mimic testosterone bind to the ur testes and that will feedback negatively to ur endocrine system (i.e. hypothalamus and pituitary gland) inhibiting production of stimulating/releasing hormone. These hormone basically cause release of testosterone from the body..

continuous exposure to testosterone cause protein production and interfere with other breaking down metabolism.. hence the anabolic effect..

it will not cause erectile dysfunction but will cause libido and infertility
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QUOTE(youngkies @ Jun 7 2006, 02:58 AM)
hehe... both anabolic steroid and corticosteroid is diff substances.. but they are of same class termed steroid..

anabolic steroid build up body.. so as corticosteroid (such as salbutamol for asthmatic, also can build up body leading to cushing syndrome)..

actually steroid is just too widely definitive...

anabolic steroid such as aldosterone is abused to reduce water content hence reduce weight (important in sport like weight-lifting, boxing etc).. other type of anabolic steroid is used for growth retardation is abused for enhancing performance and sort of..
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My dear, salbutamol is a beta agonist lah tongue.gif. The corticosteroid inhaler they use for asthma is budesonide, fluticasone etc
You must have been studying too hard and got them mixed up he he

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QUOTE(bellatrix @ Jun 7 2006, 09:54 AM)
My dear, salbutamol is a beta agonist lah tongue.gif. The corticosteroid inhaler they use for asthma is budesonide, fluticasone etc
You must have been studying too hard and got them  mixed up he he
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oppss.. yaya.. hehe! ter-mixed up... my bad!! p4wned cry.gif

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QUOTE(youngkies @ Jun 7 2006, 12:10 PM)
oppss.. yaya.. hehe! ter-mixed up... my bad!!
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You guys have too much time on your hands. biggrin.gif
Bellatrix too. Heh...
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QUOTE(youngkies @ Jun 7 2006, 01:58 AM)
hehe... both anabolic steroid and corticosteroid is diff substances.. but they are of same class termed steroid..

anabolic steroid build up body.. so as corticosteroid (such as salbutamol for asthmatic, also can build up body leading to cushing syndrome)..

actually steroid is just too widely definitive...

anabolic steroid such as aldosterone is abused to reduce water content hence reduce weight (important in sport like weight-lifting, boxing etc).. other type of anabolic steroid is used for growth retardation is abused for enhancing performance and sort of..
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QUOTE(FleshWound @ Jun 7 2006, 02:09 AM)
anabolic steroid mimics testosterone by binding to steroid hormone receptor proteins.

the abundance of testosterone synthetic or otherwise signals your balls not to make testosterone. your body is an efficient machine in conserving its resources. if you don't use it, you lose it.

steroid doesn't send impulse or make or whatever stimulate endocrine to produce more hormones, if it does, you will be increasing your libido not ruining it.

enough misinformation. stop pulling facts out of your arse.
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QUOTE(youngkies @ Jun 7 2006, 07:27 AM)
^ yup.. true..

anabolic steroid mimic testosterone bind to the ur testes and that will feedback negatively to ur endocrine system (i.e. hypothalamus and pituitary gland) inhibiting production of stimulating/releasing hormone. These hormone basically cause release of testosterone from the body..

continuous exposure to testosterone cause protein production and interfere with other breaking down metabolism.. hence the anabolic effect..

it will not cause erectile dysfunction but will cause libido and infertility
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QUOTE(bellatrix @ Jun 7 2006, 09:54 AM)
My dear, salbutamol is a beta agonist lah tongue.gif. The corticosteroid inhaler they use for asthma is budesonide, fluticasone etc
You must have been studying too hard and got them  mixed up he he
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it's all fact! youngkies, FleshWound, bellatrix
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there are wikipedia and google.. hehe!

be sure to know what drugs u are taking before u start to abuse them.. at least u know what is happening to you if there is problem and be regret...

otherwise, use the drug as directed by healthcare professional responsibly..

just my cents..
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QUOTE(youngkies @ Jun 7 2006, 12:58 AM)
hehe... both anabolic steroid and corticosteroid is diff substances.. but they are of same class termed steroid..

anabolic steroid build up body.. so as corticosteroid (such as budesonide for asthmatic, also can build up body leading to cushing syndrome)..

actually steroid is just too widely definitive...

anabolic steroid such as aldosterone is abused to reduce water content hence reduce weight (important in sport like weight-lifting, boxing etc).. other type of anabolic steroid is used for growth retardation is abused for enhancing performance and sort of..
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Cushinoid syndrome bro. Not Cushing's. wink.gif But yeah you're right, due to the chronic long term effects of using corticosteroids. It mimics the clinical symptoms of Cushing's syndrome, however it's not Cushing's. Hence the "oid".

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Jun 7 2006, 02:10 PM)
Cushinoid syndrome bro. Not Cushing's. wink.gif But yeah you're right, due to the chronic long term effects of using corticosteroids. It mimics the clinical symptoms of Cushing's syndrome, however it's not Cushing's. Hence the "oid".
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cushing%27s

we called it cushing's syndrome.. if it is caused by drug treatment, termed iatrogenic cushing's syndrome..

i thought its 'cushinoid effect' instead of cushinoid's syndrome

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Don't have too much time ler darklight, just thought that i should tell him he got his info wrong haha.

My lecturer uses the word Cushing's syndrome too ,i don't think youngkies is wrong btw

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Jun 7 2006, 01:10 PM)
Cushinoid syndrome bro. Not Cushing's. wink.gif But yeah you're right, due to the chronic long term effects of using corticosteroids. It mimics the clinical symptoms of Cushing's syndrome, however it's not Cushing's. Hence the "oid".
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Actually this excessive cortisol hormon in body may lead to Cushing's syndrome (high cortisol, low ACTH hormon from pituitary)... Cushing's syndrome in other hand got its name based on the disease called Cushing's Disease (high cortisol, high ACTH hormon) as it mimics the symptom of Cushing's Disease.

Cushing's Disease is ONLY due to tumour at the pituitary, thus it secrete more ACTH , causes the kidney secrete more of these steroids hormon.

For all other disease that mimics the symptom of Cushing's Disease (for example, excessive intake of steroids hormon) may lead to condition called Cushing's syndrome

*ACTH stimulate the production of these streroids hormon at kidney

Just spamming here, correct me if i wrong smile.gif
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QUOTE(hyperx @ Jun 7 2006, 05:07 PM)
Actually this excessive cortisol hormon in body may lead to Cushing's syndrome (high cortisol, low ACTH hormon from pituitary)... Cushing's syndrome in other hand got its name based on the disease called Cushing's Disease (high cortisol, high ACTH hormon) as it mimics the symptom of Cushing's Disease.

Cushing's Disease is ONLY due to tumour at the pituitary, thus it secrete more ACTH , causes the kidney secrete more of these steroids hormon.

For all other disease that mimics the symptom of Cushing's Disease (for example, excessive intake of steroids hormon) may lead to condition called Cushing's syndrome

*ACTH stimulate the production of these streroids hormon at kidney

Just spamming here, correct me if i wrong  smile.gif
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ACTH stimulate the production of these streroids hormones at adrenal glands sit above kidney.. hehe!

yay.. we are way out of topic... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(bellatrix @ Jun 7 2006, 08:46 PM)
LOL ... what's with all these biology lesson haha
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just to let the threadstarter knows where can he get steroid from.. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(bellatrix @ Jun 7 2006, 07:46 PM)
LOL ... what's with all these biology lesson haha
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Check out the thread title, i thought he wanted to KNOW what is steroids and WHERE it is being produced in our body? LOL laugh.gif
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Haha no idea, i thought he wanted to know where to get steroids
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QUOTE(bellatrix @ Jun 7 2006, 02:21 PM)
Don't have too much time ler darklight, just thought that i should tell him he got his info wrong haha.

My lecturer uses the word Cushing's syndrome too ,i don't think youngkies is wrong btw
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Hehe. You have too much time you monkey! tongue.gif
Anyway, i understand what you're getting at. But you see, Cushing's syndrome is due an excessive endogeous production of glucocorticoids, mainly hydrocortisone. Pituitary dependent Cushing's syndrome is the commonest form of endogenous hypercorticism, accounting to more than 2/3rds of all cases.

An adrenal adenoma accounts for up to 20% and carcinoma (which may be bilateral) 5 per cent. There's also non ACTH dependent primary adrenocortical hyperplasia, but i won't go there yet. Alcoholism can also be considered.

These are pathophysiological aspects of Cushing's syndrome. Cushinoid's syndrome however, is caused by chronic corticosteroid use. The clinical symptoms like i said are similar to Cushing's syndrome, but less.

However, in it's most typical form, it's exogenous, and seen in patients treated with large doses of cortisone over long periods for nonendocrine diseases, partcularly rheumatoid arthritis and in patients receiving transplants.

I guess in some medical texts, they are used to describe the same thing.
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Jun 7 2006, 11:45 PM)
Hehe. You have too much time you monkey!  tongue.gif 
Anyway, i understand what you're getting at. But you see, Cushing's syndrome is due an excessive endogeous production of glucocorticoids, mainly hydrocortisone. Pituitary dependent Cushing's syndrome is the commonest form of endogenous hypercorticism, accounting to more than 2/3rds of all cases.

An adrenal adenoma accounts for up to 20% and carcinoma (which may be bilateral) 5 per cent. There's also non ACTH dependent primary adrenocortical hyperplasia, but i won't go there yet. Alcoholism can also be considered.

These are pathophysiological aspects of Cushing's syndrome. Cushinoid's syndrome however, is caused by chronic corticosteroid use. The clinical symptoms like i said are similar to Cushing's syndrome, but less.

However, in it's most typical form, it's exogenous, and seen in patients treated with large doses of cortisone over long periods for nonendocrine diseases, partcularly rheumatoid arthritis and in patients receiving transplants.

I guess in some medical texts, they are used to describe the same thing.
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nowadays, ppl rarely use the term cushinoid anymore..

iatrogenic cushing syndrome is cushing syndrome caused by drugs.. anyway watever term also the same la..


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ok ler, cushing's or cushinoids, don't get to worked up over it . Now who is the free one monkey tongue.gif

This post has been edited by bellatrix: Jun 8 2006, 08:36 AM
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QUOTE(youngkies @ Jun 8 2006, 01:48 AM)
nowadays, ppl rarely use the term cushinoid anymore..

iatrogenic cushing syndrome is cushing syndrome caused by drugs.. anyway watever term also the same la..
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It's a matter of semantics yeah, but i'm in contact with HOD's and specialists in various departments, Medicine, Surgery, etc. That term is still used. wink.gif
Plus I've made enquiries with my father who's been practicing for more than 20 years. I pretty much make sure or else i wouldn't state it here.
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QUOTE(bellatrix @ Jun 8 2006, 08:35 AM)
ok ler, cushing's or cushinoids, don't get to worked up over it . Now who is the  free one monkey tongue.gif
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Hey... c'mon. I was kinda bored too. tongue.gif







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Really!
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Aren't you supposed to be busy saving life tongue.gif
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QUOTE(bellatrix @ Jun 8 2006, 09:48 AM)
Aren't you supposed to be busy saving life tongue.gif
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I'm bored. How're you and your guy?
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pretty good hehe no live to save. He's busy studying neuroscience which he said is a pain in the arse lol. I'm loitering here because i'm procrastinating tongue.gif
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QUOTE(bellatrix @ Jun 8 2006, 11:36 AM)
pretty good hehe no live to save. He's busy studying neuroscience which he said is a pain in the arse lol. I'm loitering here because i'm procrastinating tongue.gif
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Lol. I'm getting pissed cos my clothes don't seem to fit me anymore. Damn Asian fits are too small. I tore my labcoat at the shoulder area a few hours ago reaching for something across the table. Argh. I gtg eat anyway. Later.
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You tore your labcoat rofl haha you should get them tailored made
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QUOTE(bellatrix @ Jun 8 2006, 12:52 PM)
You tore your labcoat rofl haha you should get them tailored made
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><;; Idiot!

Well yeah, actually i should. It's nice to be big but then finding proper clothes are a real pain in the ass.
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Jun 8 2006, 10:23 AM)
It's a matter of semantics yeah, but i'm in contact with HOD's and specialists in various departments, Medicine, Surgery, etc. That term is still used. wink.gif
Plus I've made enquiries with my father who's been practicing for more than 20 years. I pretty much make sure or else i wouldn't state it here.
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well... nvm la.. maybe different places use different term.. hehe!

 

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