My dear, salbutamol is a beta agonist lah . The corticosteroid inhaler they use for asthma is budesonide, fluticasone etc
You must have been studying too hard and got them mixed up he he

This post has been edited by bellatrix: Jun 7 2006, 08:59 AM

oppss.. yaya.. hehe! ter-mixed up... my bad!! p4wned

This post has been edited by youngkies: Jun 7 2006, 12:18 PM

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You guys have too much time on your hands.
Bellatrix too. Heh...

wallaawei....
we have a very smart n educated people here!
I need to read them twice in order to understand it!
it's all fact! youngkies, FleshWound, bellatrix
U guys taking medic or farmacist? or?
I'm respect u guyz! But, it add my knowledge!

there are wikipedia and google.. hehe!

be sure to know what drugs u are taking before u start to abuse them.. at least u know what is happening to you if there is problem and be regret...

otherwise, use the drug as directed by healthcare professional responsibly..

just my cents..

Cushinoid syndrome bro. Not Cushing's. But yeah you're right, due to the chronic long term effects of using corticosteroids. It mimics the clinical symptoms of Cushing's syndrome, however it's not Cushing's. Hence the "oid".

This post has been edited by darklight79: Jun 7 2006, 01:19 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cushing%27s

we called it cushing's syndrome.. if it is caused by drug treatment, termed iatrogenic cushing's syndrome..

i thought its 'cushinoid effect' instead of cushinoid's syndrome

This post has been edited by youngkies: Jun 7 2006, 01:52 PM

Don't have too much time ler darklight, just thought that i should tell him he got his info wrong haha.

My lecturer uses the word Cushing's syndrome too ,i don't think youngkies is wrong btw

Actually this excessive cortisol hormon in body may lead to Cushing's syndrome (high cortisol, low ACTH hormon from pituitary)... Cushing's syndrome in other hand got its name based on the disease called Cushing's Disease (high cortisol, high ACTH hormon) as it mimics the symptom of Cushing's Disease.

Cushing's Disease is ONLY due to tumour at the pituitary, thus it secrete more ACTH , causes the kidney secrete more of these steroids hormon.

For all other disease that mimics the symptom of Cushing's Disease (for example, excessive intake of steroids hormon) may lead to condition called Cushing's syndrome

*ACTH stimulate the production of these streroids hormon at kidney

Just spamming here, correct me if i wrong

Haha i feel like i'm attending a physiology class right now

ACTH stimulate the production of these streroids hormones at adrenal glands sit above kidney.. hehe!

yay.. we are way out of topic...

LOL ... what's with all these biology lesson haha

just to let the threadstarter knows where can he get steroid from..

Check out the thread title, i thought he wanted to KNOW what is steroids and WHERE it is being produced in our body? LOL

Haha no idea, i thought he wanted to know where to get steroids

Hehe. You have too much time you monkey!
Anyway, i understand what you're getting at. But you see, Cushing's syndrome is due an excessive endogeous production of glucocorticoids, mainly hydrocortisone. Pituitary dependent Cushing's syndrome is the commonest form of endogenous hypercorticism, accounting to more than 2/3rds of all cases.

An adrenal adenoma accounts for up to 20% and carcinoma (which may be bilateral) 5 per cent. There's also non ACTH dependent primary adrenocortical hyperplasia, but i won't go there yet. Alcoholism can also be considered.

These are pathophysiological aspects of Cushing's syndrome. Cushinoid's syndrome however, is caused by chronic corticosteroid use. The clinical symptoms like i said are similar to Cushing's syndrome, but less.

However, in it's most typical form, it's exogenous, and seen in patients treated with large doses of cortisone over long periods for nonendocrine diseases, partcularly rheumatoid arthritis and in patients receiving transplants.

I guess in some medical texts, they are used to describe the same thing.

nowadays, ppl rarely use the term cushinoid anymore..

iatrogenic cushing syndrome is cushing syndrome caused by drugs.. anyway watever term also the same la..

ok ler, cushing's or cushinoids, don't get to worked up over it . Now who is the free one monkey

This post has been edited by bellatrix: Jun 8 2006, 08:36 AM

It's a matter of semantics yeah, but i'm in contact with HOD's and specialists in various departments, Medicine, Surgery, etc. That term is still used.
Plus I've made enquiries with my father who's been practicing for more than 20 years. I pretty much make sure or else i wouldn't state it here.

Hey... c'mon. I was kinda bored too.























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