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TSgengster
post Sep 13 2013, 11:39 PM, updated 13y ago

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Hi guys, i just want to ask anyone here had problem or kena tahan roadblock because using this type of sport rim?

Interested and planning to change but seeking some advise first, don't want have trouble later if using this type of sport rim.

I heard from few of friends if roadblock they will saman if u using this type of sport rim.

If anyone had any experience can you kindly share here...
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post Sep 14 2013, 12:08 AM

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Rota's just the brand... I see no harm in that...
What's illegal is the act of tyre stretching I believe...

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post Sep 14 2013, 12:40 AM

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not stretch .. the offset this rota wheels that you're talking about is kinda ridiculous .. will protude from the car body .. not because of the stretching of tyres ..
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post Sep 14 2013, 03:34 AM

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so it's illegal?
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post Sep 14 2013, 07:33 AM

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talking about 'tyre stretching' aspect, u might want to have a look at this wink.gif

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post Sep 14 2013, 08:45 AM

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wow.. it's real happen?
need to bawak laju or slow2..?

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post Sep 14 2013, 09:46 AM

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need to have proper knowledge of how the suspension work before u go slam the shiat out of your car to make hellaflush, hellafail, poke and gos knows what.

basic is here, you need a proper coilovers, hard enough to absorb the bump and minimize the wheel travel, need to adjust the camber to flush the tire from the wheel arch, and need to knock the wheel arch and fold the arch to make sure it is flush.

then you will have no problem using stretch tire with extreme offset rim.
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post Sep 14 2013, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(noir7559 @ Sep 14 2013, 07:33 AM)
talking about 'tyre stretching' aspect, u might want to have a look at this  wink.gif

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Looks more like tyre failure rather than rim problem. What happened?

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post Sep 14 2013, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(sanadi @ Sep 14 2013, 10:07 AM)
Looks more like tyre failure rather than rim problem. What happened?
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rim poked out too much, every time the wheel travel upward, the tire hit the wheel arch.

in long time, the tire pecah cry.gif
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post Sep 14 2013, 11:55 AM

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Road block tend to aim and kacau modded cars. TE37 design is common, i guess it is alright.
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post Sep 14 2013, 02:07 PM

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i can never understand the stretching tyre part. no performance at all and look is meh (thou look is subjective)

guess different strokes for different folks
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post Sep 14 2013, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(Karenalvin @ Sep 14 2013, 02:07 PM)
i can never understand the stretching tyre part. no performance at all and look is meh (thou look is subjective)

guess different strokes for different folks
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same here,i tend to agree with the bolded part. Looks "meh" to me (again, no offense to those who
use/love this style)

the one like this catch my eyes even more

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post Sep 14 2013, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Sep 14 2013, 10:43 AM)
rim poked out too much, every time the wheel travel upward, the tire hit the wheel arch.

in long time, the tire pecah cry.gif
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then it's not a stretching problem, offset and width of rim causing the tire to rub against the wheel arch.. if minor issue, there is a service called Rolling the fenders.. to make the edge of fenders fold upwards..

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post Sep 14 2013, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(gengster @ Sep 13 2013, 11:39 PM)
Hi guys, i just want to ask anyone here had problem or kena tahan roadblock because using this type of sport rim?

Interested and planning to change but seeking some advise first, don't want have trouble later if using this type of sport rim.

I heard from few of friends if roadblock they will saman if u using this type of sport rim.

If anyone had any experience can you kindly share here...
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where got ROTA TE37? only got volk racing TE37 or ROTA GRID/ROTA IK-F

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post Sep 14 2013, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(noir7559 @ Sep 14 2013, 07:33 AM)
talking about 'tyre stretching' aspect, u might want to have a look at this  wink.gif

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to be fair to the rims, that tire is archilis ATR sport which is prone to sidewall cracking and tearing off.

One of the worst tires
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post Sep 14 2013, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 14 2013, 07:19 PM)
then it's not a stretching problem, offset and width of rim causing the tire to rub against the wheel arch.. if minor issue, there is a service called Rolling the fenders.. to make the edge of fenders fold upwards..

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i mentioned rim poked out too much right? sweat.gif
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post Sep 14 2013, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Sep 14 2013, 07:30 PM)
i mentioned rim poked out too much right?  sweat.gif
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rim poked out too much means rim offset and width is wrong for the car.. as i mentioned earlier. smile.gif
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post Sep 14 2013, 07:54 PM

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Haaaiii..... these old school wheels causing problems again.

Actually the original offset wheels are made because original 1970-1980 FR cars have short rear axles. And the wheels are supposed to fill the length by using < 0 offset and the rest filled with rim and rubber.

In racing besides offset is the rim width. Width not rim depth from offset. Racing wheels have wide rim width. Usually starts at 8" all the way to 11". These wheels are meant to be mounted with race tires. Slicks and such. Only race tires have approximate width that matches the wheels.

Come to modern age, the copied design and size of the the offset wheel was never changed because they copied direct from the original offset of old school wheels.

Now come to what is being sold today.

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These wheels are the popular ones.

There is a flaw really. Because the offset are for FR, it will always never fit FF platform. And whats worse originally FR wheels have different correct offset front and rear. So the rear u will get this,

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But the new ones have negative offset all round in FF platform! So u get this.

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Then there is the problem of stretched tires,

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Some ways you could fit those wheels are add on over fenders, and rolling stock fenders might help. But seriously with low riding suspensions coupled with sidewall in contact with the road when cornering... expect the worse.
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post Sep 14 2013, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(Karenalvin @ Sep 14 2013, 02:07 PM)
i can never understand the stretching tyre part. no performance at all and look is meh (thou look is subjective)

guess different strokes for different folks
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Agree, IMHO it actually even looks more ugly!
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post Sep 14 2013, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(thefryingfox @ Sep 14 2013, 07:29 PM)
to be fair to the rims, that tire is archilis ATR sport which is prone to sidewall cracking and tearing off.

One of the worst tires
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i begged to differ...track n touge with the tyre - no issues..

not the worst but bang for bux tongue.gif
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post Sep 14 2013, 08:16 PM

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forgot to mention...if u r using rotas n kena block JPJ...bye bye!

ur tyre cant go out from fender la...
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post Sep 14 2013, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(Daniel John @ Sep 14 2013, 08:16 PM)
forgot to mention...if u r using rotas n kena block JPJ...bye bye!

ur tyre cant go out from fender la...
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Jpj states tire and wheels cannot jut out of fender. And car height is 3 inches from tyre to fender. laugh.gif There would be a lot of cars that kantoi nowdays.
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post Sep 14 2013, 08:54 PM

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so...anyone had experience kene tahan before because of this sport rim?
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post Sep 14 2013, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(noir7559 @ Sep 14 2013, 07:33 AM)
talking about 'tyre stretching' aspect, u might want to have a look at this  wink.gif

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this pic look like cheap tyre or old tyre..my friend also like this because of cheap tyre doh.gif

i use rota more then 3 month and everyday go to work from seremban to KL no problem so far more stable when i drive and beware of the sidewall whistling.gif

there all said will kene saman but by JPJ ..
i dont know why. i see so many pp already use this kind of sportrim already.. why not saman the shop

in JPJ website said
AKSESORI YANG DIBENARKAN
6. Pemasangan rim dan tayar yang lebih besar. rclxub.gif

some pupil said there want to carik makan.. some said safety issue.. wink.gif

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post Sep 14 2013, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(Daniel John @ Sep 14 2013, 08:14 PM)
i begged to differ...track n touge with the tyre - no issues..

not the worst but bang for bux tongue.gif
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beg to differ - i been an aid to a friend that used this tire. his feedback was he heard a loud bang - similarly to when a gun goes off. driving 60kmh that time IN WET so the air in those tires is not even hot.

Came out to see and the sidewall was torn off from the surface area. so yea - they are crap. google stories on them online - you will find similar cases

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post Sep 14 2013, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(kintsuchi @ Sep 14 2013, 09:01 PM)
this pic look like cheap tyre or old tyre..my friend also like this because of cheap tyre  doh.gif

i use rota more then 3 month and everyday go to work from seremban to KL no problem so far more stable when i drive and beware of the sidewall whistling.gif

there all said will kene saman but by JPJ  ..
i dont know why. i see so many pp already use this kind of sportrim already.. why not saman the shop

in JPJ website said
AKSESORI YANG DIBENARKAN
6. Pemasangan rim dan tayar yang lebih besar.  rclxub.gif

some pupil said there want to carik makan.. some said safety issue..  wink.gif
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Instead saman buyers because some are not informed of this - saman the shop that sells them.
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post Sep 14 2013, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(thefryingfox @ Sep 14 2013, 09:23 PM)
Instead saman buyers because some are not informed of this - saman the shop that sells them.
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true when i buy the rim i dont know the JPJ will saman this kind of rim
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post Sep 14 2013, 11:24 PM

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some people just trying to archive those kinda look, but without proper knowledge and didnt made compensation for the wheel to clear, such as harder spring rate coilovers, knocked and fold fenders, proper tire size for stretch, not to overstretch.
some tried to do that with limited budget. so they bought some crappy lowered spring and slam the shite out of his car. using super offset rim and cheap tires.

well, i personally love tucked and fitted vehicle. not hellaflush or slam as f*ck. something like the photo below (the Nissan B13) .

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post Sep 15 2013, 10:05 AM

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They just give tires shops more business thats all.
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post Sep 15 2013, 10:13 AM

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its not wrong to sell but its an offense fitting it to a car. get it?
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Basically that's what you get when you try to fit a rim that is not meant for your car with wrong offset and width
On top of that you stretch the tyre just so you don't rub your fender laugh.gif
Better off getting proven fitment with proper meaty tyre so you don't look like idiot
IMO,Meaty Fitment>Hellaflush/Hellafail

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post Sep 15 2013, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(thefryingfox @ Sep 14 2013, 09:22 PM)
beg to differ - i been an aid to a friend that used this tire. his feedback was he heard a loud bang - similarly to when a gun goes off. driving 60kmh that time IN WET so the air in those tires is not even hot.

Came out to see and the sidewall was torn off from the surface area. so yea - they are crap. google stories on them online - you will find similar cases
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no problem bro...its "your" fren story...im telling my "own" story...yups google and first hand experience is difference...thats my opinion...

no worries i respect ur opinion n take it as education purpose...chill! biggrin.gif
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post Sep 15 2013, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(Daniel John @ Sep 15 2013, 12:16 PM)
no problem bro...its "your" fren story...im telling my "own" story...yups google and first hand experience is difference...thats my opinion...

no worries i respect ur opinion n take it as education purpose...chill!  biggrin.gif
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so u had kene tahan before by JPJ?
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post Sep 16 2013, 03:57 AM

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my friend just pass by roadblock. no problem. some time kena. have to settle settle a bit. that's the stance lifestyle la.

The car can tapau corner quite fast and stable also.

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post Sep 16 2013, 11:30 AM

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On top of that you stretch the tyre just so you don't rub your fender laugh.gif


There is no tires that could fit in those wheels. Really none that is available here. 14x6" can fit 185/60/14. But the time it reaches 14x8 the walls will be stretched because there is no tires wider than 185. There is 14/55/205 up to 245 Radial. But all USA ones. When they buy 15" the popular ones even worse. Those wheels size goes up to 10" width. Still cannot fit the widest street wheels. Unless they buy track slicks which goes as wide as ones wallet can. hahaha.
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QUOTE(gengster @ Sep 15 2013, 10:47 PM)
so u had kene tahan before by JPJ?
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i never kena tahan JPJ one...my father is pengarah JPJ tongue.gif

what i meant was ROTA style rim if tayar keluar fender sure kene saman...budi bicara pegawai JPJ apply...
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haha nice story there laugh.gif rclxms.gif

 

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