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felixmask
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Nov 22 2013, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Nov 22 2013, 01:43 PM) Both u and cherroy also not very clear Ok, let's put in one at a time - bonds have a few crucial elements in determining its pricing: (1) maturity (2) credit rating of the issuer (3) current risk-free interest rate Let me TRY to understand cherroy... Let's say previously MGS rate 3% ABC Berhad issue bond with coupon of 8% It will be in demand (assuming credit rating of ABC Berhad is decent) Thus, it will get premium pricing, thus the YIELD won't be high. OLD ppl cant compare young ppl like you....I need spec..to read one...
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felixmask
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Nov 22 2013, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Nov 22 2013, 01:45 PM) If I'm not mistaken, MOST local corporate bonds are not quoted on an exchange. They will use some accounting formulas to calculate the fair values. This...I slept in my finance paper lectures  Really...i must enroll uninversity again to study ...any paticular Book can share- can use for my midnight story book.
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felixmask
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Nov 22 2013, 01:57 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 22 2013, 01:50 PM) Nah maths for you... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bond_valuationYou can use present value calc...  where: F = face values iF = contractual interest rate C = F * iF = coupon payment (periodic interest payment) N = number of payments i = market interest rate, or required yield, or observed / appropriate yield to maturity (see below) M = value at maturity, usually equals face value P = market price of bond.  Never thought got such formula available...Maybe free time to test the forumula,
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felixmask
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Nov 22 2013, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 22 2013, 01:57 PM) Nowdays got internet easy one.. got online calculator... got a simplified one here... http://www.calculatorpro.com/calculator/bo...ion-calculator/this one better...  why so only see loading ? what to put "Current Market Rate (discount rate) (%):" I putting the Dana Sukuk 2nd trance. face value = rm100 per unit month of matuity = 15 * 12 = 180 month cupon rate = 4.58% Current Market Rate (discount rate) (%): ????????? This post has been edited by felixmask: Nov 22 2013, 02:01 PM
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felixmask
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Nov 22 2013, 02:02 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 22 2013, 01:59 PM) I do not mean old bond has higher yield, it should be coupon rate is higher, my bad. What I meant is Last time, interest rate was higher, so old bond generally have higher coupon rate. For eg. Last time there is an old bond issued at 8% yield at Rm1.05. But right now interest environment is lower, so the bond is traded higher to match current normal yield of new bond. For eg. the old price can go up to Rm1.10, to match at lower interest rate environment.  No issue...typing and interpreation error... I believe is the BOND prior 2008 or maybe 97.....cherroy time... This post has been edited by felixmask: Nov 22 2013, 02:05 PM
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felixmask
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Nov 22 2013, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Nov 22 2013, 01:56 PM) Drinking is just part of the process of fishing for amoi...now amoi on hand, I reduced the drinking, sleeping every nite with amoi Ok, back to topic I still have 45% of my UT portfolio in bond funds...izit too late to switch? The 2 bond funds are delivering sub-FD and zero annualised returns respectively now.  Pinky Macho, keep us update....what u decide of UT porfolio bond fund...  not the sleeping ah moi......when got jackpot..We wish you happy Father Day.
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felixmask
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Nov 22 2013, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Nov 22 2013, 02:09 PM) u got AmDynamic Bond? gark, any actions? Its been going on a downward spiral lately...  I dont hv....PM sale charge very high even BOND 1%, i relutant to move out my current fund. NOW going forwards in FSM, only waiting time to invest... This post has been edited by felixmask: Nov 22 2013, 02:14 PM
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felixmask
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Nov 25 2013, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Nov 25 2013, 10:11 AM) Your dividend is RMx,xxx?  why cant....bolehland got alot millionaire.. today you not yet..Maybe tomoorow will be This post has been edited by felixmask: Nov 25 2013, 10:21 AM
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felixmask
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Nov 25 2013, 10:22 AM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Nov 25 2013, 10:21 AM) My divvies max only can buy a screw oops I mean full body massage  today you not yet..Maybe tomoorow will be divvies can hv fully body massage.. If divvy pay more then usual..can upgrade more than FULLY BODY MASSSAGE it..like ????? This post has been edited by felixmask: Nov 25 2013, 01:05 PM
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felixmask
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Nov 25 2013, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 25 2013, 01:22 PM) Best way to learn is to plunge headfirst.. learning how to swim before jumping in might be too late already...  can straight forward.....Im not classical ppl can understand your meaning.... By the way...you know swiming ? learn how to over come fear in water and float in the water is the beginner of swiming. How come your swim teacher ask u plunge head frist...You learning platform diving. Forgive me..im also lousy swimer...planning to go POM POM island for vacation. This post has been edited by felixmask: Nov 25 2013, 01:31 PM
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felixmask
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Nov 25 2013, 01:34 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 25 2013, 01:32 PM) Lol i learn swimming.. by people pushing me into the water.. its swim or die.. somehow i manage to swim..  U got lousy frienz...next time..invite gal... u dont know to swim..they can teach you to swim and holding hand while swiming.
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felixmask
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Nov 25 2013, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE(nightzstar @ Nov 25 2013, 01:35 PM) noted, waiting for price correction pom pom got terrorist.  be localize..i go there dress like local waitres...
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felixmask
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Nov 25 2013, 01:47 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Nov 25 2013, 01:35 PM) My ex GF taught me how to swim  you can recomend ur ex-GF to gark.....hidden agenda whack his money and stock
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felixmask
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Nov 25 2013, 05:41 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 25 2013, 05:09 PM) Yeah.. I have investing my cash.. now down to 70% from previous 85%... but still waiting for more bunnies to come.. I aim to save so the cash horde grows every month as well..  » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Must learn to spend more... rather than save... ask pinky how to mabuk or jolly..... Dont tell me indonesia dont hv AH Moi...else take Kuai Mui/White Ghost(meanz western ladies)
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felixmask
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Nov 26 2013, 09:23 PM
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tapering QE, MGS,DBKL hike quit rent; now OPR 2015 must be tough year for reits. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Bank Negara may raise OPR to 3.25%
PETALING JAYA: Bank Negara may raise its overnight policy rate (OPR) by 25 basis points (bps) to 3.25% next year due to inflationary pressure and a sharp increase in domestic demand, analysts said.
RAM Holdings Bhd group chief economist Dr Yeah Kim Leng told StarBiz that there should be a sharp pick-up in the inflation rate, mainly above 3%, along with a significant jump in domestic demand for the central bank to increase the OPR rate.
“The OPR is unlikely to increase in the first quarter due to the risk that the Federal Reserve might taper its quantitative easing programme. The OPR could possibly be revised as early as in the second quarter depending on the inflationary pressure,” he said.
Yeah said Bank Negara might increase the rate by 25bps in the second quarter and that the hike would only be made depending on the country’s economic growth momentum and how fast the inflation rate rises.
Meanwhile, Alliance Research chief economist Manokaran Mottain believes that the chances of Bank Negara increasing its OPR are “greater” in the second half of 2014 due to inflationary pressure.
“For the first half, inflation may increase to 3% mainly due to cost-push from further subsidy rationalisations and tariff adjustments. Usually, the central bank would not react on cost build-up,” he said.
Cost-push arises when businesses increase prices to maintain or protect profit margins after experiencing a rise in their costs of production.
He sees measures coming in in the second half of the year when demand rises to heighten demand-pull pressures in the second half of the year, which might see Bank Negara revising its OPR by 25bps to 3.25%. Demand-pull inflation, which occurs when total demand for goods and services exceeds total supply, responds better to monetary tightening.
He is expecting the inflation rate to increase to 3.2% by end-2014.
RHB Research Institute has lowered its earlier expectation of a 50-bps hike next year, as the central bank’s focus is on economic growth, which is still vulnerable to setbacks, while the rise in inflation is viewed as “temporary” due to policy-induced factors.
In a note to clients, the research house said that Bank Negara may raise its OPR by 25bps to 3.25% from the third quarter of 2014 onwards due to price pressure build-up from a possible fuel price hike in 2014 and the implementation of the goods and services tax in 2015. This post has been edited by felixmask: Nov 26 2013, 09:25 PM
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felixmask
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Nov 26 2013, 09:44 PM
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 what to believe....BNM and Fed noting do but use MEDIA to manipulate investor. This post has been edited by felixmask: Nov 26 2013, 09:45 PM
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felixmask
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Nov 27 2013, 07:20 PM
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Nov 27 2013, 06:58 PM) someone else already took my position as stock news feed provider  u got helper.....shld be happy.
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felixmask
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Nov 29 2013, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE(princeb0b0 @ Nov 29 2013, 12:25 PM) after reading the whole V5 of this tread (32 pages!), i just want to say thanks to all the sifus here. superb inputs, negative and positive. really helpful for newbies like myself. i look forward to jumping in this pool after doing some research on the REITs available. respect. cheers! after read..share what you busy..so to keep this forum hot.
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felixmask
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Nov 29 2013, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 29 2013, 12:34 PM) Added CMMT @ 1.45 .. 6.2% gross FY13DY..  MY FD account..  how many cash % in hand.
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felixmask
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Nov 29 2013, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 29 2013, 02:26 PM) Ya the putra mall will be close for 2 years.. maybe near open can consider buy into sunreit again... CMMT only own the first few floors on Sg wang + basement.. those on the upper floors is owned by individuals..  CMMT occupancy rate at 30th Septemebr 2013 is 98% for Sg. Wang. Best go and see for yourself...  this one i really dunnow. Fron their Annual report ?
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