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felixmask
post Nov 22 2013, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Nov 22 2013, 01:43 PM)
Both u and cherroy also not very clear rclxub.gif

Ok, let's put in one at a time - bonds have a few crucial elements in determining its pricing:
(1) maturity
(2) credit rating of the issuer
(3) current risk-free interest rate

Let me TRY to understand cherroy...

Let's say previously MGS rate 3%
ABC Berhad issue bond with coupon of 8%
It will be in demand (assuming credit rating of ABC Berhad is decent)
Thus, it will get premium pricing, thus the YIELD won't be high.
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OLD ppl cant compare young ppl like you....I need spec..to read one... tongue.gif
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post Nov 22 2013, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Nov 22 2013, 01:45 PM)
If I'm not mistaken, MOST local corporate bonds are not quoted on an exchange. hmm.gif

They will use some accounting formulas to calculate the fair values.

This...I slept in my finance paper lectures tongue.gif
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post Nov 22 2013, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 22 2013, 01:50 PM)
Nah maths for you...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bond_valuation

You can use present value calc...

user posted image

where:

    F = face values
    iF = contractual interest rate
    C = F * iF = coupon payment (periodic interest payment)
    N = number of payments
    i = market interest rate, or required yield, or observed / appropriate yield to maturity (see below)
    M = value at maturity, usually equals face value
    P = market price of bond.
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thumbup.gif Never thought got such formula available...Maybe free time to test the forumula,
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post Nov 22 2013, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 22 2013, 01:57 PM)
Nowdays got internet easy one.. got online calculator...

got a simplified one here... http://www.calculatorpro.com/calculator/bo...ion-calculator/
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this one better... rclxms.gif

why so only see loading ? what to put "Current Market Rate (discount rate) (%):"

I putting the Dana Sukuk 2nd trance.
face value = rm100 per unit
month of matuity = 15 * 12 = 180 month
cupon rate = 4.58%
Current Market Rate (discount rate) (%): ?????????




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post Nov 22 2013, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 22 2013, 01:59 PM)
I do not mean old bond has higher yield, it should be coupon rate is higher, my bad.

What I meant is

Last time, interest rate was higher, so old bond generally have higher coupon rate.
For eg.
Last time there is an old bond issued at 8% yield at Rm1.05.
But right now interest environment is lower, so the bond is traded higher to match current normal yield of new bond.
For eg. the old price can go up to Rm1.10, to match at lower interest rate environment.
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laugh.gif No issue...typing and interpreation error...

I believe is the BOND prior 2008 or maybe 97.....cherroy time...

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post Nov 22 2013, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Nov 22 2013, 01:56 PM)
Drinking is just part of the process of fishing for amoi...now amoi on hand, I reduced the drinking, sleeping every nite with amoi flex.gif

Ok, back to topic laugh.gif

I still have 45% of my UT portfolio in bond funds...izit too late to switch? The 2 bond funds are delivering sub-FD and zero annualised returns respectively now. sad.gif
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Pinky Macho,

keep us update....what u decide of UT porfolio bond fund...


cool2.gif not the sleeping ah moi......when got jackpot..We wish you happy Father Day. shocking.gif
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post Nov 22 2013, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Nov 22 2013, 02:09 PM)
u got AmDynamic Bond?

gark, any actions? Its been going on a downward spiral lately... cry.gif
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I dont hv....PM sale charge very high even BOND 1%, i relutant to move out my current fund.

NOW going forwards in FSM, only waiting time to invest...

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post Nov 25 2013, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Nov 25 2013, 10:11 AM)
Your dividend is RMx,xxx? shocking.gif
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why cant....bolehland got alot millionaire..

today you not yet..Maybe tomoorow will be brows.gif

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post Nov 25 2013, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Nov 25 2013, 10:21 AM)
My divvies max only can buy a screw oops I mean full body massage  doh.gif
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today you not yet..Maybe tomoorow will be

divvies can hv fully body massage..

If divvy pay more then usual..can upgrade more than FULLY BODY MASSSAGE it..like ?????



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post Nov 25 2013, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 25 2013, 01:22 PM)
Best way to learn is to plunge headfirst.. learning how to swim before jumping in might be too late already... wink.gif
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can straight forward.....Im not classical ppl can understand your meaning....

By the way...you know swiming ? learn how to over come fear in water and float in the water is the beginner of swiming.

How come your swim teacher ask u plunge head frist...You learning platform diving. rclxub.gif nod.gif

Forgive me..im also lousy swimer...planning to go POM POM island for vacation.


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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 25 2013, 01:32 PM)
Lol i learn swimming.. by people pushing me into the water.. its swim or die.. somehow i manage to swim..  tongue.gif
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U got lousy frienz...next time..invite gal...

u dont know to swim..they can teach you to swim and holding hand while swiming.


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QUOTE(nightzstar @ Nov 25 2013, 01:35 PM)
noted, waiting for price correction
pom pom got terrorist.  ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Nov 25 2013, 01:35 PM)
My ex GF taught me how to swim blush.gif
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you can recomend ur ex-GF to gark.....hidden agenda whack his money and stock
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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 25 2013, 05:09 PM)
Yeah.. I have investing my cash.. now down to 70% from previous 85%... but still waiting for more bunnies to come..  laugh.gif

I aim to save so the cash horde grows every month as well..  doh.gif

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ask pinky how to mabuk or jolly.....

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tapering QE, MGS,DBKL hike quit rent; now OPR

2015 must be tough year for reits.

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post Nov 26 2013, 09:44 PM

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biggrin.gif what to believe....BNM and Fed noting do but use MEDIA to manipulate investor.

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Nov 27 2013, 06:58 PM)
someone else already took my position as stock news feed provider whistling.gif
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post Nov 29 2013, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(princeb0b0 @ Nov 29 2013, 12:25 PM)
after reading the whole V5 of this tread (32 pages!), i just want to say thanks to all the sifus here. superb inputs, negative and positive. really helpful for newbies like myself.

i look forward to jumping in this pool after doing some research on the REITs available.

respect. cheers!
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post Nov 29 2013, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 29 2013, 12:34 PM)
Added CMMT @ 1.45 .. 6.2% gross FY13DY..  wink.gif

MY FD account..  laugh.gif
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how many cash % in hand.
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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 29 2013, 02:26 PM)
Ya the putra mall will be close for 2 years.. maybe near open can consider buy into sunreit again...

CMMT only own the first few floors on Sg wang + basement.. those on the upper floors is owned by individuals..  laugh.gif CMMT occupancy rate at 30th Septemebr 2013 is 98% for Sg. Wang.

Best go and see for yourself...  laugh.gif
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this one i really dunnow. Fron their Annual report ?



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