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post Dec 5 2013, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 5 2013, 02:41 PM)
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so the MGS already peack..

Fed Qe tapering again still got impact ??? maybe those foreign fund
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post Dec 5 2013, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Dec 5 2013, 03:55 PM)
Boustead shareholders approve Al-Hadharah Boustead REIT privatisation

Shareholders of Boustead Holdings Bhd has approved the privatisation of the Al-Hadharah Boustead REIT, which would pave the way to consolidate the group's plantation business under an enlarged Boustead Plantations Bhd.
Boustead Plantations is planned for an IPO with an estate size of 83,000 hectares producing over 1.2 million metric tones of fresh fruit bunches.

"Given our track record in the plantation sector coupled with the expertise that we have in hand, we are optimistic that the next few years will be exciting for the group," said group managing director Tan Sri Lodin Wok Kamaruddin.
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will they convert existing BSDreits to BSD Plantation ?

After i read the proposal like they giving cash only.
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post Dec 5 2013, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 5 2013, 05:04 PM)
Yes for BNM to adjust interest rates they will need to see the impact from MGS yields, monetary policy,  inflation, state of the economy, trade deficits etc etc. Everything is connected to each other and everything influences everything. Thats what makes macro economics so hard to predict.  laugh.gif

For example in Indonesia interest rates have been steadily rise from 5.25% to now 7.5%, the 10 year govt yield is actually leading the way and moving ahead of the interest rate rise. (ie spike before BI adjust the rate to correct the 'imbalance')

Therefore we use govt yield as a 'yardstick' only...  tongue.gif

IF tapering really happens, we would likely to have deflation as assets are being pulled rather than inflation.. which is when QE started.  tongue.gif
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if QE happen - deflation also meanz the Property value also drop ? also happen to NTA of reits will decrease

how about LOAN than bank disburse - owner cant refinance their house as getting cheaper? house will get cheaper?

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post Dec 5 2013, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 5 2013, 06:14 PM)
Yes, i did before see a graph of asset value vs tapering.. but i can't seem to remember where. The drop will be gradual and not overnight crash. Less demand (from FOC QE money) will slowly affect asset price.

NTA of reits MIGHT reduce, therefore low D/A reits is safer IMHO, higher D/A reits might need to raise capital. This can be seen in SGX reits in 2008-2009.

This is exactly happen to USA in 2008, in the end the house is cheaper than their loan, end up a lot of people abandon paying loan and let the bank take their houses.
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Anyway these are all theories, sometimes the economy moves in ways we cannot anticipate.  wink.gif
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I shld said BolehLand luckily...else we like US..enjoying cheap hse today...Somehow we opposite US that time.

Got mechainism BolehLand able printing more money like US Qe.

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post Dec 6 2013, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 5 2013, 06:14 PM)
Yes, i did before see a graph of asset value vs tapering.. but i can't seem to remember where. The drop will be gradual and not overnight crash. Less demand (from FOC QE money) will slowly affect asset price.

NTA of reits MIGHT reduce, therefore low D/A reits is safer IMHO, higher D/A reits might need to raise capital. This can be seen in SGX reits in 2008-2009.

This is exactly happen to USA in 2008, in the end the house is cheaper than their loan, end up a lot of people abandon paying loan and let the bank take their houses.
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Anyway these are all theories, sometimes the economy moves in ways we cannot anticipate.  wink.gif
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Handsome Gark,


Where you got such theory ? I also want to learn\read .

thanks


P/S: Today my wife wub.gif call me handsome..so i call you handsome too....
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post Dec 6 2013, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Dec 6 2013, 03:40 PM)
Tomorrow, there will be a talk on REITS at Bursa KL starting from 8 or 9am
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Which IB..
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post Dec 6 2013, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Dec 6 2013, 03:52 PM)
Bursa lah ., no name given

Got Year 2014 outlook also
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Dec 6 2013, 04:04 PM)
I was invited through whatApp, very brief.

Sunreit talk is good for u , right  hmm.gif

Outlook 2014 is also added value, how come not in yr list ?
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yes I attend last week organize by Tiger IB.

The speaker for Sunway Reits Investor relationship manager.

Maybe i walk in there tmorow. I didnt register...
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Dec 6 2013, 04:46 PM)
so what did they say that time?
did the sunway reit manager ask attendance to sell their share for good?  tongue.gif
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come at 9am- makan breakfast
usualy start at 10 am, alwasy delay one.

Nope she did give a transparent feedback the SUNREIT dividend in 2014,will not as high as 2013 received(0.082 sen)


but ask us to HOLD, as it waiting the Sunway Putra Mall to complete open in 2015. Also elaborate they bought it frm auction which is cheaper from makret aquisition.

the DBKL rate hike wont impact as only few property in KL area.

She also highlight the DBKL assesment rate hike will be pay in december 2013, and still waiting DBKL comfirm the exact assesment in march 2014;Any difference of is either clawback in 2015 DBKL assesment.


2014 outlook for M'sia.
from Tiger IB -

2014 Pong Sui is Green Wood Horse.


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post Dec 6 2013, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Dec 6 2013, 05:08 PM)
Why ? New System makes u sick  blush.gif
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their IT system juz few flow above tomorow Bursa seminar on reits.

IF want we may can go see glimpse of the their IT system....
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Dec 6 2013, 05:30 PM)
they are marking us... becoz we complain.

later will make us pay by targeting our portfolio tongue.gif
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dont worry...if you by pass walking outside bursa toward Jalan Raja Chulan ;
there is a generator juz outside.
That electrical for power gen much noise when full consumption- If you heard noise then meanz there is ppl are doing work, all the Air con is on or IT data Center is require powerup


I notice when i walking around bursa.

2ndly no one free to sabotage your account; becoz worth penny to be spot in the system..except those Insituition shareholder like PNB, LTH..eth


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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Dec 6 2013, 06:29 PM)
1 step closer to privatization of 1st Reit by Boustead
http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed...cements/1483693
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cry.gif they give cash...didnt give share.....


Im juz a long term investor. is my 1st stock when i started to invest stock 2008

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post Dec 7 2013, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Dec 6 2013, 06:38 PM)
never fall in love with your stock....forgot who said one.  tongue.gif

if not privatize news, the share price may be at 1.60 now. You prefer this? laugh.gif
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lazy to buy again..prefer keep in freezer, receive ice cube every half year.

I still prefer in exchange of new stock

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post Dec 7 2013, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 7 2013, 01:36 PM)
A plantation REIT and a plantation stock is different animal...know what you are getting into.

A plantation REIT earn money from renting the land. A plantation company earns money by growing and harvesting and processing the harvest into CPO.

Plantation reit income is stable as long term contract for the land rental, a plantation however earnings is volatile due to CPO price, fertilizer cost, labor cost, harvest yield, OER and seasons (dry and wet season different earnings).

Anyway I don't really like Boustead's plantations.. all older trees with poor yield and OER.. rolleyes.gif Better off take the money and BUY other more reputable plantations...
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i did remember you suggest me SOP.
maybe what you said shld switch to other plantation company with many young tree.

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 9 2013, 04:33 PM)
All reit used to be 7-8%....  whistling.gif
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before IGBreits spoiled the mood. selling premium
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 9 2013, 04:37 PM)
Asset revaluation will grow the NAV of the REIT = paper gain nod.gif
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those premium mall NAV above market price...will take much longer to archieve.

Except those reits market value below NAV one...can potential to go up above NAV ?
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Dec 9 2013, 06:27 PM)
article in the star, bashing reits oso  sad.gif

by next year, duno can break even or not...  doh.gif
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if looking for yield ..then buy more...

Dont let Mr. market to interupt Long term investment.

we cant avoid; best we becarefull what we buy.


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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Dec 10 2013, 05:46 PM)
Dali gives ratings for REITS ?
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you mean this http://malaysiafinance.blogspot.com/2013/1...re-bubbles.html

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post Dec 10 2013, 06:12 PM

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From DALI blogspot, Im sharing at lowyat member.


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post Dec 10 2013, 06:16 PM

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this one related to Reits, from DALI blogspot

http://malaysiafinance.blogspot.com/2013/1...0-november.html

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