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REIT V5, Real Estate Investment Trust
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Nov 29 2013, 02:40 PM
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Dec 2 2013, 10:33 AM
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Dec 2 2013, 12:40 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 2 2013, 10:44 AM) That's only good if they keep coming down... If you looking at dividend stocks.. you only worry about DY%.. IF the stock goes up and end up below your DY% then no point for you to add more. IF the price goes down and your DY% is attractive then can always buy more.but at current interest rate environment, I think u r righ You have to determine what is the suitable DY% you are looking for before you make your purchase. And for DY stocks you dont actually care of the price, if it goes up it is a bonus...if it goes down, and you are still getting your DY why worry? Mine is ~6% (2x FD). Anything less, no go... AND you need not buy everything locally.. i got some Croesus retail trust recently at 9% DY as well... This post has been edited by gark: Dec 2 2013, 01:01 PM |
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Dec 2 2013, 01:04 PM
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Dec 2 2013, 11:29 AM) Having an all REIT portfolio is NOT diversification, it is actually having all your eggs in ONE basket...Similar to people having all property stocks an all plantation stocks.. have zero diversification. A diversified portfolio means they will have low or negative correlation, e.g. the movement of stocks is opposite of each other... A all REIT portfolio moves in a single direction only... |
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Dec 2 2013, 01:22 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 2 2013, 01:20 PM) It's getting hard to find anything decent with DY above 4% nowadays It is indeed getting difficult to find DY stocks.. hence a telling that the market is too bullish...Yeah I'm monitoring that Wah Kor stock now...but spread between buy/sell is... I actually put in 10 lots buys this morning...then cancel. Lucky I cancelled...else I get only 2 lots matched So you decided to go for wah kor already.. i thought you say you afraid the ciggy packaging ban? |
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Dec 2 2013, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 2 2013, 01:24 PM) They also got other clientele...though rokok is biggest clientele. They got Bolehland, Kangarooland and Vietmoiland rokok contract kangaroo land rokok packaging can survive ah? I think it might take some time for such legislation to go thru... And it's actually bigger than Dai Boh Ji...margins and growth also similar if not better. Can buy lar They do have a small consumer food packaging division like daa-boh-Ji but it is still small... This post has been edited by gark: Dec 2 2013, 01:27 PM |
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Dec 2 2013, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 2 2013, 01:28 PM) If Kangaroo rokok market kaboom, still got Bolehland, Vietmoiland, Kiasuland to support though it will take a hit, Kangarooland is biggest single market But until that... it is still good stable business with good cash flow... Just have to monitor kangaroo land ciggy legislation.. And the recent drop in RM should be beneficial to margins.. This post has been edited by gark: Dec 2 2013, 01:30 PM |
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Dec 2 2013, 01:33 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 2 2013, 01:30 PM) Unker is advocating to take the Seller's price NOW DY stocks need to be patient...Plus, they got the BAT contract for 7 years at 2008...means just 2 more years to go I dun think BAT will wanna always change supplier kua They have supplied BAT for >20 years already.. will BAT change now? |
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Dec 2 2013, 01:37 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 2 2013, 01:34 PM) But I read they only got the contract at 2008? Means even prior to that (2008), they already on contract? Ya if not mistaken.. they have been on contract with Rothmans Pall Mall Malaysia before change name to BAT.But then again business will always have risk... |
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Dec 2 2013, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(topearn @ Dec 2 2013, 02:30 PM) There are different levels of diversification. Having many REITs counters is also diversification vs putting all funds in just 1 REIT counter. Read up on negative correlation and you know all you said has already been answered... Similarly having all your funds in a diverdified portfolio of just stocks can also be said putting all your eggs in 1 basket unless U also put funds on real estate, precious metals (like gold, silver), FDs, etc. f market crash and all your funds in a diversified portfolio..........there goes your retirement and year-end holidays...and then everyday can afford to eat maggie mee for breakfast, lunch and dinner only. |
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Dec 2 2013, 08:30 PM
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Dec 3 2013, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Dec 3 2013, 08:36 AM) Actually, REITS is only part of my portfolio. Collected from years ago.. and did not really look at the dividend yields until lately. Also hv cigg, carlsberg, gab, banks, consumers, prop even PANANMY FROM a decade ago.. and lots of LOST and LOSING money shares egg SAAG, ... Well first off insurance savings plan is the biggest scam out there. Forex is speculating, not investing. I even got real estate collecting rental, gold pass book..unit trust, even INSURANCE SAVING PLANS... dabble into FOREX once.. but too time consuming, hence I do keep some foreign FD, even local FD's. So, that is my idea of diversification. Also IPOs... but I do not keep these, its only for short term. Except MAXIS, still having. but sold some with intention to buy DIGI..to diversify the TELCO PORTFOLIO. this year DEC quite free, maybe will sit down and evaluate again my SHARES PORFOLIO... sometimes get unexpected gain . EG: P.I.E been keeping for years for the good dividend, but suddenly few months from RM 4.00 it goes up to RM 6.. nearly touch RM 7.00.... so, continue keeping or TAKE PROFIT? The most difficult decision staring into SHARE MARKET is, do we sell when the price go up or do we keep buying when the price goes down. I tried setting a disipline cut loss at 20% ... but then, not easy to bypass our OWN EMOTIONAL MIND. with the hope that it will rebound. If those shares which you have bought earlier is giving you decent dividend suggest to keep them and continue collecting, unless of course the dividend is getting lesser or fundamentals no longer attractive. To take profit or not depends if you have discover other more appealing shares which can boost your returns then you switch or the share is showing deteriorating fundamentals. Cut loss is one of the hardest trick to master, but it will protect your capital. It takes lot of experience to determine if you should cut loss, especially if the FA is poor. |
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Dec 3 2013, 09:53 AM
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Dec 3 2013, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE(S_SienZ @ Dec 3 2013, 12:25 PM) Bonds also negatively correlated to REITs right? No, bond is highly correlated to REIT..Principle same as FD? Interest rate up, safer alternative for money income, demand for REITs go down? Interest rate goes up BOTH bond and REIT will go down. This post has been edited by gark: Dec 3 2013, 12:29 PM |
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Dec 3 2013, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE(S_SienZ @ Dec 3 2013, 12:30 PM) Only bonds already issued though no? Nope.. all bonds will go down if interest rate rises... Newly issued bonds with the new interest rate would be negatively correlated, yes? There is no difference between old and new bonds.. just how much it will go down only.. if interest rate goes up. This post has been edited by gark: Dec 3 2013, 12:44 PM |
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Dec 3 2013, 12:45 PM
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Dec 3 2013, 01:00 PM
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Dec 3 2013, 04:33 PM
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Dec 3 2013, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE(felixmask @ Dec 3 2013, 04:48 PM) SIFU GARK, The easy reply is that I feel the stock market is over priced, so slowly selling off counters, and profits parked in REIT.. as long as the DY is >6% its good enough for me, share price is secondary. MSG wont go up anymore or Qe Tapering no more media manipulation? recently see you updating buying alot reits ? share share.... Last week i attend Maybank IB - workshop of reits - the speaker wong wei sum highlight 2014 reits expect Volatile becoz of interest go up. CMMT at 1.39, DY 6.3%-6.5% This post has been edited by gark: Dec 3 2013, 04:59 PM |
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Dec 3 2013, 05:01 PM
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