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 Samsung Galaxy Note 3 - Official v2, 3rd gen of the best phablet

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post Sep 11 2013, 02:35 PM

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why not later come out huge.BIG or humongous.HUGE.... LOL!!! tongue.gif
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post Sep 11 2013, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(sklchan @ Sep 11 2013, 02:35 PM)
why not later come out huge.BIG or humongous.HUGE.... LOL!!! tongue.gif
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Why u no like 8 core? ohmy.gif
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post Sep 11 2013, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 11 2013, 02:36 PM)
Why u no like 8 core?  ohmy.gif
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who say i dont like? i loved if they go for pure 8 A15 cores with smart power management... thumbup.gif
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post Sep 11 2013, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 11 2013, 10:43 AM)
blame the government for not letting DiGi get LTE
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WTF, Digi already have LTE... upgrade start since Dec 2011... How good Digi LTE services doesn't know? coz currently using Digi for my Note 2, bigger town seem acceptable speed...

http://www.digi.com.my/tomorrownetwork/

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post Sep 11 2013, 02:42 PM

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If those A15 cores not power hungry why the heck they make extra 4 little cores? then if those little cores soo efficient why the heck they just use 8 little cores?
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post Sep 11 2013, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 11 2013, 02:34 PM)
Wow, I guess it right that S4 Exynos will be more responsive now. No need to switch thread. just continue using the same thread/core until finish before shutdown.

s4 exynos price will go up soon.  drool.gif
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S4 exynos has a borked core cluster controller. It can't perform granular switching.
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post Sep 11 2013, 02:44 PM

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Not to mention Samsung never release the source code for Exynos
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post Sep 11 2013, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(WiLyi @ Sep 11 2013, 02:44 PM)
Not to mention Samsung never release the source code for Exynos
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because it's too messy and shame to be shown... whistling.gif
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post Sep 11 2013, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(Oldskolboyz @ Sep 11 2013, 02:42 PM)
WTF, Digi already have LTE... upgrade start since Dec 2011... How good Digi LTE services doesn't know? coz currently using Digi for my Note 2, bigger town seem acceptable speed...

http://www.digi.com.my/tomorrownetwork/
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Digi have LTE... but is it commercially available to user now? not that i know of...

and your Note2 is LTE version??? AFAIK, Note2 malaysia version do not have LTE. unless u bought it from other country.
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post Sep 11 2013, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(joytest @ Sep 11 2013, 02:43 PM)
S4 exynos has a borked core cluster controller. It can't perform granular switching.
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sorry, I search borked core cluster controller and found nothing. icon_question.gif

Does the scenario I describe can be considered as granular switching? I thought I say that
a program no need to switch core half way if all 8 cores are activated. So less switching.

Less switching = good = more responsive

S4 Exynos will become faster than Snapdragon version. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 11 2013, 03:11 PM)
sorry, I search borked core cluster controller and found nothing.  icon_question.gif

Does the scenario I describe can be considered as granular switching? I thought I say that
a program no need to switch core half way if all 8 cores are activated. So less switching.

Less switching = good = more responsive

S4 Exynos will become faster than Snapdragon version.  rclxms.gif
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Search term is cci or cci400 it came out about 2 months ago I think. Exynos 5410 cci.

A couple of articles on sammobile. I posted also in v24 or v25 of note 2 thread.
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post Sep 11 2013, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(joytest @ Sep 11 2013, 03:14 PM)
Search term is cci or cci400 it came out about 2 months ago I think. Exynos 5410 cci.

A couple of articles on sammobile. I posted also in v24 or v25 of note 2 thread.
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Ok found the implementation:-
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The next logical step would be a quad-core version, which we sort of got with the Exynos 5410 - or as it's more commonly known: Exynos 5 Octa. This part features four ARM Cortex A15 cores running at up to 1.6GHz and four ARM Cortex A7 cores running at up to 1.2GHz in a configuration ARM calls big.LITTLE. The specific implementation of big.LITTLE on Exynos 5410 is known as Cluster Migration; either the four Cortex A15 cores or four Cortex A7 cores can be active, but not both and not an arbitrary combination of cores from each island. They're either all on or all off. This is by far the easiest to implement from a software perspective, but is obviously the less interesting option from a heterogeneous SMP perspective. I'll  be talking more about this in an upcoming ARM piece.

On the graphics front, Samsung moved to Imagination Technologies for the Exynos 5410 - implementing a PowerVR SGX 544MP3 setup. The Exynos 5410 saw limited use, appearing in some international versions of the Galaxy S 4 and nothing else. Part of the problem with the design was a broken implementation of the CCI-400 coherent bus interface that connect the two CPU islands to the rest of the SoC. In the case of the 5410, the bus was functional but coherency was broken and manually disabled on the Galaxy S 4. The implications are serious from a power consumption (and performance) standpoint. With all caches being flushed out to main memory upon a switch between CPU islands. Neither ARM nor Samsung LSI will talk about the bug publicly, and Samsung didn't fess up to the problem at first either - leaving end users to discover it on their own.


And its a bug.

Samsung S4 Exynos = 5410 - got bug laugh.gif

Note 3 Exynos = 5420 - fix bug. Can turn on all cores.

Now I know why S4 Exynos so cheap. Its chipset got bug one ler.
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 11 2013, 03:11 PM)
sorry, I search borked core cluster controller and found nothing.  icon_question.gif

Does the scenario I describe can be considered as granular switching? I thought I say that
a program no need to switch core half way if all 8 cores are activated. So less switching.

Less switching = good = more responsive

S4 Exynos will become faster than Snapdragon version.  rclxms.gif
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Here are 2 links. It seems to have gotten hushed up after a few articles.

http://www.androidauthority.com/exynos-5-o...ng-socs-219832/

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/16209...a-5420-arm-chip
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post Sep 11 2013, 03:25 PM

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Reply from superbuy... which means its really RM 2,299 biggrin.gif

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post Sep 11 2013, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(joytest @ Sep 11 2013, 03:23 PM)
I just read the first article. And yes, you're right. I though S4 using 5420. Silly me. icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(jason111785 @ Sep 11 2013, 03:25 PM)
Reply from superbuy... which means its really RM 2,299 biggrin.gif

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I remember nobody believe me when I predict price. rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 11 2013, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(joytest @ Sep 11 2013, 03:23 PM)
the exynos just simply buggies... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(sklchan @ Sep 11 2013, 03:35 PM)
the exynos just simply buggies...  whistling.gif
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Sifu are you doing any Android development? I recall you were helping Andreilux with some of his power envelope testing.
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post Sep 11 2013, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(joytest @ Sep 11 2013, 03:36 PM)
Sifu are you doing any Android development? I recall you were helping Andreilux with some of his power envelope testing.
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omai.. sklchan really Android pro.. I feel paiseh now to make so many mistake just now.
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post Sep 11 2013, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 11 2013, 03:26 PM)
I remember nobody believe me when I predict price.  rolleyes.gif
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one call to SEM confirm the price la. laugh.gif

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