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imoogi99
post Feb 9 2017, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(Richard @ Feb 9 2017, 11:03 PM)
The pressure release valve should have prevented the explosion..

This is why this forum is so important to disseminate information to make homeowners aware of the risk of badly maintained equipment in their homes..

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Beside the pressure release valve, I believe the thermal cut off is not working either. Had the thermal cut off is working, the water will not be heated and cause the build up of the pressure.
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post Feb 9 2017, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(imoogi99 @ Feb 9 2017, 11:14 PM)
Beside the pressure release valve, I believe the thermal cut off is not working either. Had the thermal cut off is working, the water will not be heated and cause the build up of the pressure.
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Yes, I believe the protection works complementary to each other.. A faulty thermal cut out and pressure safety release in the boiler..

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post Feb 9 2017, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(Richard @ Feb 9 2017, 11:03 PM)
The pressure release valve should have prevented the explosion..

This is why this forum is so important to disseminate information to make homeowners aware of the risk of badly maintained equipment in their homes..

Functional aesthetics comes with a cost..
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For normal household people, there wouldn't know about this. And don't think the manufacturing will tell you when need maintenance.

Till the unit spoil.
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post Feb 10 2017, 09:14 AM

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Most likely (guessing) the storage heater is some "chap palang" brand. A good brand will have minimal 2 failsafe features inside.

And next is user need to practice switch off after use. This is passive safety.
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post Feb 10 2017, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Feb 10 2017, 09:14 AM)
Most likely (guessing) the storage heater is some "chap palang" brand.  A good brand will have minimal 2 failsafe features inside.

And next is user need to practice switch off after use. This is passive safety.
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So far have you check that safety device? Is it in working condition.
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post Feb 10 2017, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Feb 9 2017, 11:44 PM)
For normal household people, there wouldn't know about this. And don't think the manufacturing will tell you when need maintenance.

Till the unit spoil.
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another issue is normal those heater installed on top of the ceiling. How we able to check and view the indicator of the tank? dry.gif

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post Feb 10 2017, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(amenlo9 @ Feb 10 2017, 04:42 PM)
another issue is normal those heater installed on top of the ceiling. How we able to check and view the indicator of the tank?  dry.gif
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No need la.

Nobody will see it.

Just estimate the time when you switch ON.
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post Feb 10 2017, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Feb 10 2017, 09:20 AM)
So far have you check that safety device? Is it in working condition.
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For my house, i do a simple check, just switch on 30mins, if meter still running, is time to inspect. So far ok.. touch wood
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post Feb 13 2017, 12:20 PM

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I would like to purchase RCCB for my instant water heater shower use.
What kind of RCCB specification do I required to purchase?
The instant water heater shower that I have now:

Panasonic DH-3NDP1MS, 3.6kW, DC Jet Pump.

RCCB specification:
1) 10mA / 30mA?
2) Type A / Type AC?

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post Feb 15 2017, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(alexander3133 @ Feb 13 2017, 12:20 PM)
I would like to purchase RCCB for my instant water heater shower use.
What kind of RCCB specification do I required to purchase?
The instant water heater shower that I have now:

Panasonic DH-3NDP1MS, 3.6kW, DC Jet Pump.

RCCB specification:
1) 10mA / 30mA?
2) Type A / Type AC?
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Hope you find this useful as posted by one of the forumer in this thread


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post Feb 15 2017, 06:32 PM

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mine so far so good , i think its safe , hopefully
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post Feb 15 2017, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(sharethebest @ Feb 15 2017, 12:00 AM)
Hope you find this useful as posted by one of the forumer in this thread
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Bought the exact Hager model.
Can't afford Type A RCCB from Schneider.
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post Feb 15 2017, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(alexander3133 @ Feb 15 2017, 07:06 PM)
Bought the exact Hager model.
Can't afford Type A RCCB from Schneider.
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This one is quite costly

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post Feb 16 2017, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(sharethebest @ Feb 15 2017, 09:50 PM)
This one is quite costly

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How you intend to install it?

This type is din rail, db box type.
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post Feb 16 2017, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Feb 16 2017, 08:29 AM)
How you intend to install it?

This type is din rail, db box type.
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Yes, planned to install RCCB in DB for water heater.
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post Feb 16 2017, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(alexander3133 @ Feb 16 2017, 08:51 AM)
Yes, planned to install RCCB in DB for water heater.
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The DB already have a rccb. Why install another 1 that so near?

The extra rccb for heater is mean to install as near as possible to the heater side.
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post Feb 16 2017, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Feb 16 2017, 09:09 AM)
The DB already have a rccb. Why install another 1 that so near?

The extra rccb for heater is mean to install as near as possible to the heater side.
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In Malaysia, this type of unit is available by some electrician.

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post Feb 16 2017, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(sharethebest @ Feb 16 2017, 12:50 PM)
In Malaysia, this type of unit is available by some electrician.

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I guess it is the cheapest way. biggrin.gif

As long as it work, it is okay. Safety 1st.

There is few way to make it nice. All is in the back post. But of course price will be expensive a bit.

I prefer the nicer way. blush.gif

In US, those appliances using high power like heater, hair dryer, aircon etc, the 2pin plug is equip with the rccd. So the appliances that they buy have the rccd built into the plug. This is a good idea to protect you and the device from fire.

This is a aircon plug.
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imoogi99
post Feb 16 2017, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Feb 16 2017, 09:09 AM)
The DB already have a rccb. Why install another 1 that so near?

The extra rccb for heater is mean to install as near as possible to the heater side.
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Normally the DB rccb is at 30mA and not the 10mA type. So the extra RCCB for heater should be installed next to the heater switch? If this is the case, then it will need a mini DB box for this kind of RCCB.
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QUOTE(imoogi99 @ Feb 16 2017, 05:21 PM)
Normally the DB rccb is at 30mA and not the 10mA type.  So the extra RCCB for heater should be installed next to the heater switch? If this is the case, then it will need a mini DB box for this kind of RCCB.
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It should be install next to the heater plug or direct point.

You can use sharethebest picture way or nicer way at the back of the post.

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