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post Sep 19 2013, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(mtee7 @ Sep 19 2013, 04:11 PM)
Just 1 question to ask (sorry if its off topic). I've read that FD interest are tax free up to RM100k of deposits you put in. Does that mean if I have cash excess of RM100k (lets say 1 million) and deposit into FD, 900K's deposit's interest will be taxed?
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Witholding tax on FD more than Rm100k already abolished years ago, no longer applicable now.
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post Sep 24 2013, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(Gary1981 @ Sep 24 2013, 10:49 AM)
SC give 3.5% for 6 months
Mach HL gives 3.4% for 12 months.

Still accumulating more info as got FD due end sept 13. Will check out Affin as received brochures mentioned 3.88%...
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SC got 3.5% for 6 months?

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post Oct 14 2013, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Oct 13 2013, 07:08 PM)
For commercial banks, I don't think so. Even 10M also not possible. BLR already 6.6%
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Even with 1 billion, bank may not possible give more than 4 or 4.x% with BLR at 6.6%.

As bank nowadays got offer mortgages loan around BLR - 2%. means around bank earns about 4.x% interest, how can bank give more interest more than they lend out? Impossible.
Somemore, banks have overheard cost on top on it.

That's why even with the promotion offer, FD rate hardly go more than 4%, unless for attracting new customer, or short period of tenure one.
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post Oct 14 2013, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Oct 14 2013, 02:32 AM)
No need 1 M, you can get that rate or better if you put in retail bank bonds usually long term 5-15 years, aka Medium Term Notes. 1/4M+ enuff. But must catch it fast when it comes.
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QUOTE(FD2r @ Oct 14 2013, 08:42 AM)
Hi.. care to explain more..? Guarantee return or non guarantee? any bank are offering similar product at this moment?

Thanks..
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Those are bond, not FD, different.
Bond in nature generally are not guaranteed, subjected to default risk.

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post Oct 18 2013, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(soulmad @ Oct 18 2013, 12:02 PM)
hi question ,if senior account
then the senior passaway
take how long to withdraw the FD?
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Same procedure, be it senior account or whatever account.
Get the LA from the court.

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post Oct 19 2013, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(gsc @ Oct 19 2013, 02:34 AM)
That is interesting....legally it is incorrect if a person has passed away, any withdrawal or transfer of fund after the death is deemed as illegal transfer?
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It depends whether there is dispute or not, if there is significant sum involved, and many family members dispute on the estate issue, then you have a case.
Technically, once a person is dead, any account associated with the person should be frozen.

QUOTE(Gen-X @ Oct 19 2013, 09:11 AM)
yes UOB is statement based and so is OCBC.
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So far most foreign banks are statement based.
It is more convenience, and less troublesome, and safe. (As one is getting statement monthly basic, everything is summarised into a paper, whatever done on the FD account is clearly showed), even joint account holder (be it husband or wife), who poses the cert, want to "curi-curi" withdraw without other party knowing also being exposed. laugh.gif

Also, imagine, have multiple FD cert, old time, memory not good, forget where the cert being placed.


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post Oct 28 2013, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(gsc @ Oct 28 2013, 08:06 PM)
Anyone know any interest given for pre-mature withdrawal (1 month plus) on UOB FD... Overlooked the matured date and was given only 3.1%..plan to withdrawal and redeposit at 3.6%
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As far as I knew, correct me if I am wrong. No interest is given for premature withdrawal of FD that run below 3 months.

To compared, lose 1 month plus of interest to gain extra 0.4%
Assume 1 month premature withdrawing.

Place in Jan, withdraw at Feb, lose 1 month interest due to premature withdrawing.
Then at Feb, place 3.5% from Feb to Dec, you earn RM350/11 = Rm31.8

Compared to 3.1% run from Jan to Dec = Rm310

So after a month plus, I do not think it worth to premature withdraw if no interest is given for the premature withdrawing.
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post Oct 29 2013, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Oct 29 2013, 09:18 AM)
guys, if between 1 month (3.05%) and 6 months (3.25%)
isnt it better to just go for the 1 month rate cause if they pay the interest every month, and its added back to the initial deposit, they will have to pay me more right?
Or do they also calculate the 6 months rate and pay off the interest on a monthly basis?
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3.25% has more in final day.
Don't need to count also can confirm. tongue.gif
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post Oct 31 2013, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Oct 31 2013, 12:43 AM)
For discussion purpose, I heard that the interest rates may get better early next year, near CNY. Anyone has any thoughts about this insight?
Partly the reason why I'm locking in money for 3 months to see what happens then.
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I do not think so.
My view, is rate stable throughout 2014.

With economy slowing, export figure is not rosy, the chance of raising rate by BNM is quite low.
As increase in interest rate will dampen further the economy, a situation that no one willing to see.

Unless the economy report better number, only then rate has chance to the upside.




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post Oct 31 2013, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Oct 31 2013, 10:26 AM)
There are talks of rates going down. What is your opinion ? Thanks.
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Flat or staying at current rate is the most likely.

As inflation threat is quite serious out there.
Also, BNM doesn't wish low rate that prompt more property speculation as well as already high household debt out there.

Also, if lower rate, it may mean negative real interest rate,as inflation is expected to notch up with subsidy cut here and there as well as GST implementation in the coming year (2015).

So both up and down got its effect that BNM may not want to see.


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post Oct 31 2013, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(mtee7 @ Oct 31 2013, 03:22 PM)
To control inflation..Central Banks will try to tighten money supply and one of the most common ways is thru raising interest rates. With increasing interest rates, more people will deposit money (as per many sifu's here) and less people will borrow as cost of borrowing increases.

In fact, to further curb property speculation, increasing interest rates will be the better way other than RPGT. But will the Central Bank increase IR or not...really no idea.
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Economy growth is a more weighted factor in most central bank mind nowadays, as compared to inflation control.

So RPGT is a way to control property speculation, while without need to increase interest rate that could dampen the economy growth.
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post Nov 3 2013, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(haur @ Nov 3 2013, 10:09 AM)
Hi guys, I was told by a family member that I should try foreign fd. Advisable to try?
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QUOTE(gsc @ Nov 3 2013, 10:55 AM)
What are their reasons? What are the Foreign FD rates?
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Foreign currency FD is good to hedge against RM depreciation.

But if Rm appreciate, you lose out.
So a "fair game".

Aussie (AUD) and NZD previously were known for its higher yield (7~10%), now just about 2.5% (varied a little (0.x%) from bank to bank).

But at current trend, NZD is the only one has a prospect higher rate in a near to mid future due to improved economy condition.

While for the like Yen, USD, GBP, SGD rate generally range from 0~0.25%, and unlikely to move for sometimes.
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post Nov 4 2013, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Nov 4 2013, 09:23 PM)
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Ha ha, so I should be happy with the CIMB 5.2% every 3 months. But it is for 10 years !!!
kambing...

think u already know... this again has been extended to Feb 2014.

i like it, saves me the trouble for looking for anything since this is 5.2%, payable qtrly!

hope it goes on and on until bnm raise rates like hell for watever reason... tongue.gif

nb... tis is a cimb frnid, a klibor based structured deposit, not fd...
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FRNID is not a FD.
A structured investment is not a FD.
Interest is not guaranteed, and only given if meet the criteria set, if condition is not favourable, one may get nothing from it as well, depended on the structured investment set.

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post Nov 5 2013, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Nov 4 2013, 11:48 PM)
I dont trust  FRIND again, played out by CIMB before. First you have to pray that the Klibor or whatever index falls into your favourable ranges, if not no interest or very much lesser. Then you have to pray that the bank dont play you out when KLIBOR range is in your favour.

You cant beat the bank, when they have an escape clause  "call back".

Say FD Rate goes  down to eg 2% pa you might think you are lucky signing up for this FRIND that promises 5.2% for 3 years. But wait. dont be happy too fast, the bank can do the so called  "call back" and return your capital when prevailing FR rate is so damn low.

I kena before, when KLIBOR out of ranges few quarters no interest they dont do call back. When index come into the range and I got the 6% or so interest for 2 quarters only,  the bank started to play dirty - they called back the FRIND and returned my capital. End up after 2+ years only got something like 1% pa on average.

Better go for long term FD, you are assured of that rate till the every end.
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I experienced before, bank prematured call back the structured investment. vmad.gif

So whenever there is clause of call back, I told the banker can straight away end the conversation, save time on both party.
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post Nov 11 2013, 08:43 PM

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What so surprise about 0-0.25% interest rate?
It is already like that since 3-4 years ago for those developed countries since 2008 financial crisis.

The highest FD rate one can get in developed countries right now is AUD and NZD, both at 2.5%.

Want higher rate?
Go for Indonesion Rupiah and India Rupee, around 7.xx+% tongue.gif

That's why I do not understand why so many people even including so called market analyst predicting the rate to go higher.
At 3%, it is already a "high" comparatively.

And with lot of uncertainty in economy, and local economy seems not picking speed, the least BNM want to do is to kill off economy growth with raising interest rate.
In fact, prior before 2008 crisis, Malaysia rate had been hovering at 3% since the aftermath of 1997 financial crisis.

I personally do not think BNM will move the rate if there is no drastic change in economy situation.
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Nov 11 2013, 08:55 PM)
The problem is a lot people don't know about developed countries interest rate. I for instance only know Japan has almost zero interest rate. Now only I know even Taiwan also "follow" those developed countries  smile.gif
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Singapore also at 0.05% <-- if not mistaken, if deposit for 1 year can get around 0.25%.
China almost at par with Malaysia.
Thailand. 2.5%.
UK 0.5%.
ECB just cut rate to 0.25% from 0.5% days ago.
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post Nov 27 2013, 09:54 PM

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Which bank also not stated... doh.gif
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post Dec 7 2013, 12:13 PM

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In good day, every bank make profit one.

The difference between a good, strong, resilience bank is about quality of its loan made.
In good day, bank business is almost sure making money one, take in deposit 3%, loan it out 5-6% (with BLR 6.6%), a difference of 3% rate for every loan made. How can not making any money.

As this difference only can be seen when bad time.

Typically history example would be 1997 crisis, only left one local bank was not making a loss during that time.
And a few banks or finance company that was making hundred million profit prior before crisis, were struggling due to rise in NPL, and short of liquidity, which poses risk of bank/finance company went under.


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post Dec 7 2013, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(esy @ Dec 7 2013, 01:08 PM)
... out of my curiosity, don't mind me asking which local bank is actually making profit during the 1997 financial crisis ... hmm.gif ...
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The one with lowest NPL.
And one of most rewarding bank stock if one is the shareholder.
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post Dec 9 2013, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(bearbear @ Dec 9 2013, 03:22 PM)
Interesting but AUD has been going quite low lately against MYR, believe it is now below the mark of 3?

I do have some trips now and then to Aussie but the fluctuation of AUD and rate of 3.9% - is it worth it?
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Yes, now below 3, around 2.93~2.96

AUD is a bit high at 0.9x against USD.

Even RBA also see AUD level is a bit high.
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20131029-701087.html

Economy data of Australia is not that robust suggest AUD rate might be "soft" for sometimes.
Currently, interest rate for AUD is 2.5%.


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