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 ASN, ASN2, ASN3, ASG, ASB, ASW2020, ASM, ASD, AS1M, AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL BERHAD V4

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lucifah
post Sep 15 2013, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 15 2013, 11:28 PM)
Recently? I thought already 6 years they do reinvestment  hmm.gif
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well, it was launched in 1996. for 10 yrs, cheques were issued. 6 yrs ago is quite recent to me smile.gif
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post Sep 15 2013, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 15 2013, 11:53 PM)
At least AHB can b compounded (later) if perform manually
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the dividend is paid bi-annually

it's a hassle to maintain this fund, so i skipped this one. actually, i tried it with 100k investement as the maybank manager promoted it to me. left it for about 2 yrs before i remember updating it. all dividends are parked in savings account, which yielded me only like 0.5% interest.
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post Sep 16 2013, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 16 2013, 09:26 PM)
Congrat on the successful transfer
I have done simple calculation for EPF n AS1M
The average past 3 yrs return for EPF:AS1M is 5.98%:6.49%
The diff is 0.51%pa
For every RM10k investments, u will get additional RM51pa or RM4.25pm
Mind to share wat makes u decide to transfer from EPF to AS1M?
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exactly why i didn't opt the EPF withdrawal scheme. the hassle of filling in the forms and getting the necessary approvals put me off.
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post Sep 17 2013, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(titanic_crash @ Sep 17 2013, 03:23 PM)
i don't think so..no hassle at all..10 minutes can be done, free parking
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u got good luck

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IINM, u can only invest a certain amount from Acc 2. not the total amount of acc2.


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post Sep 17 2013, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 17 2013, 03:30 PM)
Good for you  rclxms.gif

if only others bumi think like you  smile.gif
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too much hassle.

based on this info http://www.kwsp.gov.my/portal/documents/10..._2013__Eng_.pdf

i'd only be able to invest rm 10 - 12k.

i have small EPF savings.
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post Sep 18 2013, 01:01 PM

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AS1M = 6.70% announced if i heard correctly
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post Sep 18 2013, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Sep 18 2013, 03:30 PM)
I've been reading the responses on the ASB2 thingy and I observe a rather interesting anomaly (I guess)...

Everyone seems to trust PNB when it comes to fixed priced funds yet the same is not extended to its variable priced products. Why is public mutual still the de facto for variable priced funds? Has anyone really studied if among PM's numerous funds (I think there's at least 50 if not more tongue.gif) what's the % of returns is like?

The same organization, the same infrastructure, probably the same fund management or investment office operations and yet the respect for PNB's variable priced products is no where near the "trust" that people have for its fixed priced funds.

It's like believing that BMW's 5 series models do well compared to its 7 series model.

Just my weird observation...
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for non-bumi, there is not much option since all fixed price funds are fully subscribed


for bumi, who has yet to maximise their ASB, ASW, ASM, AS1M, ASD : it's more like peer influence

"eveyrbody is doing it, so why aren't we?" is what they keep telling me when they promote their products

i handle quite a large sum of money in ASNB and has yet to reach any ceilings / limits yet that i need to subscribe to varibale price fund, be it from ASNB or PM
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post Sep 18 2013, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Sep 18 2013, 05:11 PM)
it never occurs to me that ASB2 can be a variable price product.... hmm.gif
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post Sep 19 2013, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 19 2013, 04:20 PM)
RM2b of AS1M not taken up by Bumiputera

About half of the RM5 billion bumiputera allocations have not been taken up in the Amanah Saham 1Malaysia (AS1M) share trust units despite Permodalan Nasional Bhd (PNB) declaring a record 6.7 sen income distribution for AS1M for the financial year ended Sept 30, 2013.

The amount not taken up stood at RM2 billion, translating a take-up rate of only 60% for the bumiputera portion for AS1M.

“About RM2 billion of the bumiputera quota has not been subscribed,” PNB group chief executive officer and president Hamad Kama Piah Che Othman told reporters in Kuala Lumpur yesterday, adding that all the non Bumiputera portions for AS1M have been subscribed.
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2 billion!

that's RM134 million in dividend if i can takeup all 2 billions if i had that much money laugh.gif
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post Sep 20 2013, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(kongming @ Sep 20 2013, 08:12 PM)
Why do you all do not use online banking to top up?
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because they charge you RM 1

and if you are not bumiputra, u can't top up AS1M using online banking

onnly AS1M and ASB fund are available through M2U, Clicks and RHBOnline
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post Sep 20 2013, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(kongming @ Sep 20 2013, 08:38 PM)
Can we ' beratur '?
It also include ASM, ASW 2020.
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yes, u can queue at the bank... hmm.gif

ASM and ASW2020 is not in the list last i checked with M2U and Clicks. both are fully subscribed, be it bumi or non-bumi quota. need to go to counter to check then can
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post Sep 24 2013, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(Joshua_0718 @ Sep 23 2013, 11:34 PM)
Guys, I am noob on this and I need some advise on ASB loan. For a 25 years loan amount RM200k + RM4372 for the Takaful RTT.

The outstanding loan for ASB is RM583,706.17 before start paying. I read back the agreement, at the clause 1.1, it stated the following
The bank interests rate is BLR-1.65% per year. Which means the monthly installment would be around RM1190.
But I don't understand, RM1190*12*25=RM357,000, how to the RM583,706.17?

I am waiting for the banker to reply.
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you took islamic loan?

is it a step up financing?


where did u get the RM 583k amount?


usually for conventional loan, the interest is added every month...

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post Sep 24 2013, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(Joshua_0718 @ Sep 24 2013, 12:46 AM)
Yes, Islamic loan from Maybank Islamic.
It is stated in the agreement. I think it is the ceiling amount I would need to pay if the BLR increase more than 10%.
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islamic loan is a bit different...

both you and the bank agree on a certain amount of "profit" the bank will receive

in your case, from my limited information, will be RM 380k, on top of your rm 200k basic loan

this amount is not based on the BLR.


or u can always check with the bank again before signing those papers.
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post Sep 24 2013, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(Joshua_0718 @ Sep 24 2013, 12:51 AM)
Noted. Will clarify with the banker. Got this from their website.

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Selling Price Rate/Ceiling Rate fixed at BFR + 4.0% or 10%, whichever is higher
    * Competitive effective profit rates as per ASB Loan Conventional interest rates, provided it should not exceed the fixed selling price rate



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yup

that's islamic loan

1. it will be whichever is higher, in this case, it's 10.6 (BFR + 4% = 6.6% + 4.0% = 10.6%)
2. it is not interest, but agreed "profit rate" as i mentioned earlier

ask your banker for full clarifications. they should explain it properly before you sign the documents or you could screw them over for bad ethics.



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post Sep 24 2013, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(Joshua_0718 @ Sep 24 2013, 12:56 AM)
Roughly I understand how it worked. If the BFR increase, thus the selling price will increase.

BFR and Interest is not the same?
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BFR is used in islamic financing.

it's basically the same rate with BLR, just different principle, which is quite complicated to understand smile.gif
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post Sep 24 2013, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 24 2013, 03:12 PM)
Why you're asking, you heard anything?  hmm.gif
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banks using that tactic to scare people and get more people to do ASB loan

yesterday i oso kena. but i tell them, you increase my ASB limit to 500k first, then i get it
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post Sep 24 2013, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 24 2013, 05:20 PM)
Not everyone like you  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif , Most would take ASB loans to the max  nod.gif
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i will.


with all this hoo ha, i thinki have to carry forward my grand plan of withdrawing all ASB balance by january 2014

insted of just earning 8% from ASB dividend on a, let's say, 400k = 32k per year

i can leverage my earning up to 9.6% on the same 400k (excluding interest) = 38.4k per year


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post Sep 24 2013, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Sep 24 2013, 06:14 PM)
9.6%? Only applicable to Bumi?
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excluding the additional 1+% dividend smile.gif
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post Sep 24 2013, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 24 2013, 06:44 PM)
Bonus ASB?  hmm.gif
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ah, that's the correct term. dividend. bonus

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post Sep 24 2013, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(Johannlo @ Sep 24 2013, 09:21 PM)
The last time I heard was about 2% . I could be wrong though as fuel prices have shot up.
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2%. or 2+%. that's what the govt want you to believe

in reality, it's about 4%. it is in tandem with FD returns.


edit: or u can always use one of the most reliable measuring stick: a cup of teh tarik.

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