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ASN, ASN2, ASN3, ASG, ASB, ASW2020, ASM, ASD, AS1M, AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL BERHAD V4
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davinz18
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Oct 8 2013, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 8 2013, 04:22 PM) U r rite ASNB systems can check how many units is available Banks/Pos dun have such features I wud advise u inform d teller how much u want so that he/she can key-in immediately If u check 1st n units is available, teller need to exit from the menu and go into top up menu which take times Remember, timing n luck is d key features Wow, I learn new thing today. Thanks for the information
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davinz18
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Oct 8 2013, 06:07 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 8 2013, 05:43 PM) Sharing is our culture here I agreed
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davinz18
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Oct 8 2013, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(MGM @ Oct 8 2013, 06:13 PM) Even if you can check units availability, transaction over the ASNB counter need cash. Yes, cash for non-bumi. any problem with it?
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davinz18
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Oct 8 2013, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE(MGM @ Oct 8 2013, 07:42 PM)  Yes, if you are robbed carrying too much cash. Whereas in the bank, money from your account which is safer. AS IF you can get 10k at ASNB office on "try & error" basis (if got connection/ insider, different story). Even rm50 also sometimes hard to get You go banks & try. The staff won't even give you the waiting number for ASNB Transaction (some case) or they just pretend "trying" (key-in) for you
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davinz18
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Oct 8 2013, 10:03 PM
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QUOTE(MGM @ Oct 8 2013, 09:51 PM) Well if it suits you and you don't mind and wanted to take the risk, go ahead, it's your money and your life.Bye.Bye. I know the risk involved, in fact everyone knows that here. don't you read the previous posting & their experience dealing with the banks "good" services. Tomorrow you go try at the bank. You can feel the "service" given by them okay  (I know you on FD rite now) This post has been edited by davinz18: Oct 8 2013, 10:16 PM
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davinz18
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Oct 8 2013, 10:34 PM
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QUOTE(MGM @ Oct 8 2013, 10:21 PM) I have enough of asnb funds. Bought AS1M when most people avoided it, slowly accumulating it for a few months. Will unload it monthly when I retire but thru the BANKS, just don't want to carry too much money around even in thousands. Good for you, let's it grow bigger y-o-y until your retirement Did I mention want to withdraw my ASx thru ASNB branch?
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davinz18
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Oct 9 2013, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 9 2013, 10:11 AM) Bro, my friend try top up at ASNB n managed to get RM10k b4 Your friend is so lucky to get that much on "try & error" basis. Others cannot even get rm50 QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 9 2013, 10:14 AM) Agreed If v want to try top up at Banks, v need to build d rapport with counter staff from zero Once counter staff is familiar with u, they will assist u It's depend on banks. Some bank even you're familiar face, they still don't like to "layan" much. If you're VIP or some local area leaders then they would gladly help you.
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davinz18
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Oct 9 2013, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Oct 9 2013, 03:41 PM) Yape, the best way is to call them.. Actually I give a call to them last week, they said still no news yet.. Hopefully there will be some news soon.. Haha.. anyone here who have news can share it here also..  Lower ranking staff don't know much, only those in the top management level know better They would only get the news when they go for national level briefing or got internal memo from management
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davinz18
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Oct 9 2013, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 9 2013, 04:34 PM) That's the info im asking for. then you need to wait a bit longer  I heard their still "searching" for the best structure for the fund
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davinz18
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Oct 9 2013, 05:00 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 9 2013, 04:15 PM) Average bumi won't benefit from ASB2 scheme http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/243384as expected, no surprise to me
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davinz18
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Oct 9 2013, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Oct 9 2013, 05:17 PM) I don't envy them, it's a problem that I don't think anyone would want to have. Given the valuations of the equity market right now, it's going to take some hair-splitting brain-crunching headache-inducing pain to even come up with a competitive portfolio. Having to live up to the expectations of its older "brother" is not easy. Personally, I wouldn't want to be the fund manager or investment officer in charge of ASB2 to be honest. Personally what I find most irritating is, how our dear Mr. PM with just one speech over-ruled not only the SC but also BNM with complete disregard to what these 2 bodies are trying to put in place in terms of policies. I really pity those investment officer & those are on the ASB2 project. what can we say. When our beloved PM say something, people need to follow. His decision can over rule all the policy Anything can happen in BolehLand
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davinz18
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Oct 9 2013, 06:30 PM
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Viewpoint: Will the average Bumi, with RM611 in ASB, benefit from 10b new units?» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « WHEN Dato’ Seri Najib Razak first became prime minister, he promised national unity in the form of 1Malaysia and a New Economic Model (NEM) that preached needs-based economic intervention in favour of the bottom 40 per cent of household income earners regardless of race. This signalled a departure from the race-based policies from the past, and a clear indication that the way forward must include every Malaysian, especially those who most need help.
Unfortunately, Najib’s promises have all been undone with the recent launch of his new Bumiputera agenda. Dubbed the Bumiputera Economic Empowerment Agenda (BEEA), it entails a variety of race-based initiatives including the setting up of a powerful Bumiputera Economic Empowerment Council, the creation of Bumiputera Development Units in every ministry, an assurance that major Government-Linked Companies (GLCs) will increase Bumiputera vendor participation, as well as the launch of 10 billion units of new Skim Amanah Saham Bumiputera 2 (ASB2) shares by Permodalan Nasional Berhad (PNB).
While the NEM offered market liberalisation and needs-based affirmative action that would focus on narrowing the gap between the rich and poor, the BEEA appears to be a reversion to the old New Economic Policy (NEP) that has been proven to benefit mostly a select class of Umno-linked Malay capitalists at the expense of the poorer, unconnected masses.
This is made obvious by the fact that, despite four decades of supposed Bumiputera-targeted assistance, the bottom 40 per cent of Bumiputera households today earn a measly average income of RM1,686 per month. At the same time, the politically-connected rich are able to purchase RM7 million bungalows at a whim.
As such, the proposed launch of 10 billion ASB2 units is highly questionable. Who is set to benefit from more ASB shares made available? Would the bottom 40 per cent of Bumiputera households be able to invest in these high-yielding shares considering that they hardly earn enough to get by?
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davinz18
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Oct 9 2013, 06:51 PM
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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Oct 9 2013, 06:40 PM) The next time someone whines about bumi's not investing in ASB, they should read the above. However, I do wonder where does the author gets the figure from as it does seem to be rather low though. What would be interesting to know is just how many of the 8 or so million ASB account holders have maxed their investment in it. Anybody has a clue? According to ASB 2012 report, got around 12,318 people have balance of 500k above. I'm sure these are the people that max their ASB It's also noted that 5.7 Million people hold rm5k & below in ASB. http://www.asnb.com.my/annualreport/ASB%20...0CD_120225a.pdf
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davinz18
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Oct 9 2013, 08:12 PM
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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Oct 9 2013, 07:23 PM) Hhhmmmm... So let's assume that those above 200k is about 50,000 people or about 3x the number of 500k and above, if all 50,000 invest RM200k than the 10b fund cap would have been filled in no time  As for those with 5k and below, it's really important to see if these are regular investors. If they aren't than including them (one off investors due to inheritance or something similar) than including these group of people would skew the data by quite a lot  If there's ASB2 loans, the figure would be higher. as for those 5k below, I think the numbers already reduced, maybe 4mil+ people only compare with 5.7mil last year
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davinz18
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Oct 10 2013, 02:30 PM
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I don't care where the fund get the money or where they invest it (shariah or non-shariah, Malaysia or overseas). Main point is they pay my dividend above 6% p.a on time every year. I'm happy if they open-up more units for subscription. Just my opinion
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davinz18
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Oct 10 2013, 05:14 PM
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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Oct 10 2013, 04:59 PM) For everyone's benefit (especially those silent readers who may be contemplating ASB loan due to the rumor that ASB loan tenure would be capped at 10 years) here's the image of the ASB dividend vs BLR spread. Again, don't fall for the bank's sweet talk. The margin is smaller than you think  [attachmentid=3669058] Some of the year the total dividend is 14% Very2 lucky those holding big amount those time
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davinz18
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Oct 10 2013, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Oct 10 2013, 05:16 PM) during that time, BLR is 11%... and no, u got it wrong. it's NOT the dividend, but the BONUS that is high (3%) like mentioned previously, BONUS = fake percentage I was mentioning year 1990 & 1994. The BLR those year are 7 & 8.25 respectively. Anyway Yes, Bonus keep reducing from those "good" years Excluding Bonus, Year 1996 & 1997 is the BEST
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davinz18
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Oct 10 2013, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Oct 10 2013, 05:18 PM) Hahahaha... I knew it  Before someone starts screaming "where's the 1Malaysia spirit" bla bla bla crap, it's good to note that the savings rate has gone considerably down since those double-digit dividend hey-days. In an environment of high savings rate and high coupon rates, it's very easy to give high dividends when even FD would give you very good returns  I just telling those holding that time are very lucky. If I remember correctly, those days FD gave 10% p.a  . Less people invested in ASx. ASW2020 when launch in 1996 have very few takers among Non-bumi. Now if launch any Fixed Price fund, confirm sold-out if no quota
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davinz18
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Oct 10 2013, 06:07 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 10 2013, 06:02 PM) Noted PNB consistently paying Bonus to ASB holders since year 1990 Is there any obligation for PNB to do so? Helping the "needy" one
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davinz18
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Oct 10 2013, 10:02 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 10 2013, 07:23 PM) I think so Now they doing 'social service" by giving Bonus
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