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post Sep 27 2013, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(WiLeKiyO @ Sep 26 2013, 11:04 AM)
How to buy from DotA2 store ?

I only can buy using Steam wallet, no option for paypal or credit card.  hmm.gif
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You can add money to steam wallet using paypal/credit cards.
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post Sep 27 2013, 03:16 PM

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got 300 mb files downloading now.. new patch?
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post Sep 27 2013, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Sep 27 2013, 03:16 PM)
got 300 mb files downloading now.. new patch?
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Updated morning.
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post Sep 27 2013, 03:30 PM

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Whats the new content? Cant find any changelog..

nvm, read cyborgmatt

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post Sep 27 2013, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(air @ Sep 27 2013, 11:03 AM)
Checked the lineup,

From the game duration, I can see that:

1. Heroes wise, their lineup for offensive trilane is overwhelming against your team.

2. Heroes wise, The game ended rather early for your lineup

3. Heroes wise, they have 2 ultimate supports which render NA and tide useless(suppose)

4. Heroes wise, They have a very powerful gold and vision provider(bounty hunter)

5. Heroes wise, your side combo is a lot harder to pull it off.

6. Heroes wise, Your side heroes laning need higher skills to survive against opposite line up during laning phase.

Conclusion, their failed hard in laning phase and feed until you guys can end the game in 34 mins

Meh epic? Just that you met a bunch of typical noob and selfish pubbers.
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So means I am noob cuz my opponents are noob? But you say at no 6 means my team not that noob also la? hmm.gif

But they got better laning yet still fail hmm.gif hmm.gif

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post Sep 27 2013, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(air @ Sep 27 2013, 10:45 AM)
VS play style is self sacrifice with support roles, but self sacrifice means, your impact must at least cost opposite 3 heroes.

In teamplay try go for aura stacking. Drum + Vladmir if there is melee carry in team.

If pub? forget it, you will feed anyway.
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but im buying wards as well and i cant steal carry's farm so hard to even get to drums. after wands i usually start meka or arcane boots.
yes force staff is a must on her. i know how to play her item wise, just dunno why cant win with her anymore

i have 30wins on her but 28 losses fffffuuuuu cry.gif
was 25-18 before zzz
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post Sep 27 2013, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(xhakox @ Sep 26 2013, 09:28 PM)
Alchemist should rush which items first? Kinda confuse sometimes.
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when u are alc, if me i go lothar. safe = avoid gb on me = save gold from death; lothar also gain little attack speed

i saw other saw midas, i feel it is waste based on my experience. i used to buy midas but only once in game and gg in that game.
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post Sep 27 2013, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(-Torrz @ Sep 27 2013, 05:12 PM)
but im buying wards as well and i cant steal carry's farm so hard to even get to drums. after wands i usually start meka or arcane boots.
yes force staff is a must on her. i know how to play her item wise, just dunno why cant win with her anymore

i have 30wins on her but 28 losses fffffuuuuu  cry.gif
was 25-18 before zzz
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Yes she is warder as she no need strong items to be imba.

try practice trilane + double stack NC pull for exp and lvling, dual lane no longer works effectively for VS as VS's range is a lot shorter than most INT caster.

Arcane boots its a waste of gold on excess mana since you die way faster you spend your mana(during the time you getting arcane boots and meka), strictly speaking, after wands and boots, you should get at least a plane walker to avoid death by spell. With your lvl 4 aura, simply by surviving alone with a few simple stun will make a huge difference and lead your team to victory. Check all your lost matches with VS, see your team line up.

VS most likely will feed on pubs with 1-2 teammates cause VS is a type who amplify and yet cant do shit alone.

She can stun, but short range ==> a lot of INT out range her

Her damage pain but not much useful cause short attack range + slow ASPD

But she got 1 of the most imba aura in this game and she is one of the heroes who having highest STR growth in game(imagine 1.4k hp without any STR item in lvl 10-11 as AGI version of Ogre Magi)

Her mana issue can be solved by clarity pots

Heroes to combo: Undying, Leoric, rubbick, Beastmaster(arguebly best aura combo to boost up Semi-carry early game, both heroes got decent initiate spell and disable), Lone druid

When her leveling is ok, her ulti will shines after lvl 2. Ever see an enemy carry being swapped and ganked thus lead to victory?

Keyword here: Aura stacking and surviving. Forcestaff is like 2nd core but not a must. Drum + meka are core items.

Something to note: Medallion of Courage + Howl + aura is imba single target killer. MoC can combo with Urn of Shadow for decent regen and assist.




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post Sep 27 2013, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Sep 27 2013, 04:19 PM)
So means I am noob cuz my opponents are noob? But you say at no 6 means my team not that noob also la?  hmm.gif

But they got better laning yet still fail  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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It simply means they are very noob, selfish and probably sleep-walking. Thats why I can tell its Meh Match instead of EPIC match.
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post Sep 27 2013, 06:02 PM

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if u want to play vs, you cannot play him as a defensive support.

get 1 shoes and stick and clarify, then roam around. she is the offensive supporter. 1 stun - armor can control early game.

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post Sep 27 2013, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(air @ Sep 27 2013, 05:58 PM)
It simply means they are very noob, selfish and probably sleep-walking. Thats why I can tell its Meh Match instead of EPIC match.
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But but but I like the combo wombo at 31min+ drool.gif

So what is an epic match to you? hmm.gif
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post Sep 27 2013, 06:43 PM

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VS ar..i use VS to support my teammate..
swap my teammate out of danger and i go die 1st
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post Sep 27 2013, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(air @ Sep 27 2013, 05:54 PM)
Yes she is warder as she no need strong items to be imba.

try practice trilane + double stack NC pull for exp and lvling, dual lane no longer works effectively for VS as VS's range is a lot shorter than most INT caster.

Arcane boots its a waste of gold on excess mana since you die way faster you spend your mana(during the time you getting arcane boots and meka), strictly speaking, after wands and boots, you should get at least a plane walker to avoid death by spell. With your lvl 4 aura, simply by surviving alone with a few simple stun will make a huge difference and lead your team to victory. Check all your lost matches with VS, see your team line up.

VS most likely will feed on pubs with 1-2 teammates cause VS is a type who amplify and yet cant do shit alone.

She can stun, but short range ==> a lot of INT out range her

Her damage pain but not much useful cause short attack range + slow ASPD

But she got 1 of the most imba aura in this game and she is one of the heroes who having highest STR growth in game(imagine 1.4k hp without any STR item in lvl 10-11 as AGI version of Ogre Magi)

Her mana issue can be solved by clarity pots

Heroes to combo: Undying, Leoric, rubbick, Beastmaster(arguebly best aura combo to boost up Semi-carry early game, both heroes got decent initiate spell and disable), Lone druid

When her leveling is ok, her ulti will shines after lvl 2. Ever see an enemy carry being swapped and ganked thus lead to victory?

Keyword here: Aura stacking and surviving. Forcestaff is like 2nd core but not a must. Drum + meka are core items.

Something to note: Medallion of Courage + Howl + aura is imba single target killer. MoC can combo with Urn of Shadow for decent regen and assist.
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You're pretty much talking in situations where your team has great communication, almost what you'd never find if unless you 5 man stack. I don't know how you expect a support to keep up in levels with your other teammates if you expect them to constantly be around the map warding unless they can continuously pull off a chain of successful ganks on every lane constantly and let's be honest here, how often will it be successful unless the enemy has no map awareness anyway. I don't know how you got 1.4k hp without any STR item at lvl10/11 data, because I just went in game to test this out and she only has 929 hp at lvl10. She doesn't get 1.4k hp based on pure level up until lvl20(this number's a bit off because you would definitely get stat levels at lvl15, 17 and 18 which would give you the 1.4k hp). Even dota wiki says she only has 1.2k hp at lvl16. Unless of course, you were referring to EHP all this while without considering the fact enemy might have heroes that have -armor or magic resistance skills.

You'll also notice sooner or later the 110/120/130/140 mana cost for her stun can't be so easily covered with by mere clarities(100 mana in 30 seconds for a skill that can be used every 10 seconds) and her low int growth meaning she can't gank as often to constantly pull ganks off which brings us back to another question, how do you expect her to keep up in levels? You also expect her to carry a mek which means she would have even more mana problems.

I'm sorry but I really cannot completely agree with the tips you're giving out here even if some of them are useful.
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post Sep 27 2013, 10:03 PM

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Carry VS is cool yo

inb4 xboct
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post Sep 27 2013, 10:06 PM

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^I agree. Her mana pool is too low to be roaming around with jst clarity. I agree on the stack and pull, thats the only way to gain exp and lasthits. Dual lane is still viable if you can get a kill by lv 3. Chain stun to lock the enemy down.

I have tried tri-lane but tri-lane on pubs = lol. I won with my friends though but they have the mentality to always dual lanes top and btm whistling.gif

I tried the roaming gank squad with ogre magi before, it was 50-50 chance. If the first gank fails, everything will fall. I feel like she's a good hero only at lvl 11. I dont up her aura because it pushes lane. I go the typical 1,2 skill build maxing the stun first hmm.gif
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post Sep 27 2013, 11:24 PM

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Why do I get matches against people that don't want to focus the carries but focus supports first in teamfights? even if they already have bkbs and supports can't do much damage to them. Or is this the new meta nowadays?
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post Sep 28 2013, 02:23 AM

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QUOTE(Tamatamana @ Sep 27 2013, 11:24 PM)
Why do I get matches against people that don't want to focus the carries but focus supports first in teamfights? even if they already have bkbs and supports can't do much damage to them. Or is this the new meta nowadays?
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i played in very high mm. i always aim support first. why? because support is crucial during teamfight. kalo due2 support da mati, more focus on the carries. carry aim mule2 je

bile da last2 tu carry da susah nak kill.
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bcoz support are fairly more easy to kill bro... imagine u are in a teamfight and u kill their support 1st..that put you on 5v4 situation = HUGE advantage! Unless ur team spent all ulti on killing that support which make things worse
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QUOTE(am3rr @ Sep 28 2013, 02:23 AM)
i played in very high mm. i always aim support first. why? because support is crucial during teamfight. kalo due2 support da mati, more focus on the carries. carry aim mule2 je

bile da last2 tu carry da susah nak kill.
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this. imagine you letting supports like wl / es casting their ulti before dying.
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post Sep 28 2013, 11:31 AM

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Hi there,
I tried playing dota 2 on my computer but it's not running smoothly, well i guess it's because i do not have a GPU and running on an onboard.
Just wondering, what GPU can i buy to play dota at default settings with res 1920-1080?
here's my current parts;
AMD Athlon II x250 | GA-MA78GM-US2H | CGM2X2G800 (x2) | SST-ST50F-230
I'm looking to not spend much to be able to play the game smoothly, please recommend me a GPU and a rough price range for that.
Thanks in advance.

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