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> Complaint against kennyscj, Fake badminton racquet

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post Aug 28 2013, 12:55 PM

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Adding on, thank you for your great pictures,

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=436...&type=1&theater

Notice the letter 'L' on the LOW WIND word starts exactly at a grommet, and the E ends exactly on a grommet, and between L and E it is separated by 5 grommets? Thank you very much. Go and see my picture thanks. Look at the location of the 'L' is enough.
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post Aug 28 2013, 01:02 PM

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First of all, I'm NOT siding with this unethical seller. But truth is truth, and must be told.

Why you guys compare the pic side by side? Of course la its looks the same. Try compare it above and below. See what I mean yet?

QUOTE(davlee @ Aug 28 2013, 11:11 AM)
Is it just me or anyone else also notice that the seller's demo racquet picture is exactly the same for both left and right photo? Even the position, shadow, alignment... so is it the same photo?
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QUOTE(konakona @ Aug 28 2013, 11:43 AM)
I superimposed the photo, the floor pattern match exactly.

Though the picture of the racquet, while it is not flipped, there's a possibility that just an angle change.

So unless the seller took the picture at the same place and at the same exact position for both side, then...
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QUOTE(davlee @ Aug 28 2013, 12:06 PM)
If you notice the wordings on the string, it is the same position too... which is very unlikely you will have the exact same position if the racket is flipped... so... Kantoi???
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QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Aug 28 2013, 12:47 PM)
Thank you davlee and konakona for noticing this. Probably he has the world's best stringer and photographer to get the word and shadows to be EXACTLY the same. Seriously? Anyone with ANY racquet please go and measure. 305mm BP where is it located? Near the T joint? shakehead.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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post Aug 28 2013, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(mi-g @ Aug 28 2013, 03:02 PM)
First of all, I'm NOT siding with this unethical seller. But truth is truth, and must be told.

Why you guys compare the pic side by side? Of course la its looks the same. Try compare it above and below. See what I mean yet?
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Unfortunately, no I can't see what you mean. May I ask you to explain more?

Correct me if I am wrong, but what I can see is the difference, yes, but then the picture for comparison is in doubt. Left and right is almost the same, while it should not. So from there how can we make comparison up and down? hmm.gif
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post Aug 28 2013, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(mi-g @ Aug 28 2013, 01:02 PM)
First of all, I'm NOT siding with this unethical seller. But truth is truth, and must be told.

Why you guys compare the pic side by side? Of course la its looks the same. Try compare it above and below. See what I mean yet?
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Hahaha... You just dont get the point yet...

If comparing above and below, so it is quite obvious that the buyer got a different racket than the seller's demo racket, am I right? So, it is rightfully that he can demand a replacement racket then? whistling.gif
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post Aug 28 2013, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(mi-g @ Aug 28 2013, 01:02 PM)
First of all, I'm NOT siding with this unethical seller. But truth is truth, and must be told.

Why you guys compare the pic side by side? Of course la its looks the same. Try compare it above and below. See what I mean yet?
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Hello. Thank you for that suggestion of yours. I dont really get it but there could only be 2 scenarios.

#1. Comparing the picture directly up and down.
This isnt correct since the top left and right is my racquet and the bottom 2 is his. If there is a difference means mine is fake and I can demand for a refund?

#2. Comparing his picture top and bottom instead of left and right
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Sorry, but I still dont see anything. Just look at the string wordings. EXACTLY the same.
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post Aug 28 2013, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(davlee @ Aug 28 2013, 03:12 PM)
Hahaha... You just dont get the point yet...

If comparing above and below, so it is quite obvious that the buyer got a different racket than the seller's demo racket, am I right? So, it is rightfully that he can demand a replacement racket then?  whistling.gif
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Aha, I see now. So kinda like the seller dug his own grave.

Unless he can proof that the buyer changed the racquet.
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QUOTE(konakona @ Aug 28 2013, 02:32 PM)
Aha, I see now. So kinda like the seller dug his own grave.

Unless he can proof that the buyer changed the racquet.
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No way I would do that. Theres a serial number on the racquet as well as on the receipt. And Im hella sure it matches if nothing has been changed. smile.gif
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post Aug 28 2013, 03:03 PM

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Add on :

Please show me how you measure 290mm on your F9. I've made a video showing a whopping 307mm BP. Apologies for measuring it slightly diagonally as the camera was blocking me. Still, if not 307mm, at least 305mm. Where is your proof? smile.gif



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post Aug 28 2013, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Aug 28 2013, 04:36 PM)
No way I would do that. Theres a serial number on the racquet as well as on the receipt. And Im hella sure it matches if nothing has been changed. smile.gif
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Make a digital copy of the proof. Just in case. Also, keep a timeline for information. Like when you get, and when you discover etc.

EDIT:

Don't forget to watermark your pictures and proof when you put it out like this.

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post Aug 28 2013, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(konakona @ Aug 28 2013, 03:26 PM)
Make a digital copy of the proof. Just in case. Also, keep a timeline for information. Like when you get, and when you discover etc.

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Don't forget to watermark your pictures and proof when you put it out like this.
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Alright thanks for the tip. A picture of the receipt is shown in the first page. Serial number can be seen there. It is also on my racquet shaft. For the front few pictures I'll just leave it since I guess many people have already seen it. Im not good at video editing so I'll just let it go. For the other pictures uploaded after this, I'll watermark it. Thanks. smile.gif
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Aug 27 2013, 11:28 AM)
He doesn't have a physical premise.

Anyway, I have posted up a warning on his sales thread and hope he could respond to this thread soon. smile.gif
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rarely see u here sis tongue.gif , only at maxis thread hahaha..good luck
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post Aug 29 2013, 10:21 AM

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Apis_LuaLua The seller is coming online but no more replying to the dispute. Shall we proceed to the next level? Thanks. smile.gif
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his thread, details and the link to this dispute already listed in the blacklist thread. Let see until when he gonna keep silent.

btw yes, he checking this thread just now.

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post Aug 29 2013, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(Apis_LuaLua @ Aug 29 2013, 12:08 PM)
his thread, details and the link to this dispute already listed in the blacklist thread. Let see until when he gonna keep silent.

btw yes, he checking this thread just now.

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i have nothing to dispute to him/her.

all the information i has give at my facebook fanpage.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.4...58409197&type=3


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post Aug 29 2013, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(kennyscj @ Aug 29 2013, 01:22 PM)
i have nothing to dispute to him/her.

all the information i has give at my facebook fanpage.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.4...58409197&type=3
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You have to reply here.
Not on your FB.
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QUOTE(kennyscj @ Aug 29 2013, 01:22 PM)
i have nothing to dispute to him/her.

all the information i has give at my facebook fanpage.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.4...58409197&type=3
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Hahah! Guys, look!! He just showed that even his "demo racquet" is fake!!

The first picture he showed us,
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Take of the same sides, hoping nobody would ever realise.

The second picture, posted on Facebook with the caption "Since consumer say I'm expert to do the photo shop. this is the another picture to proof it."
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Look at it for God's sake. Look at the arrows. Its the same as mine! Explains why in the first picture he took of both of the same sides. Because the demo is also a fake? doh.gif


So kenny, I have 2 questions for you.

#1. Why did you take of the same side in the first picture hoping that nobody would notice?

#2. Where is the proof that your demo racquet's balance point is 290-295mm, and that 300+mm will be near the T-joint? cool.gif

Kenny, you're lucky that you have banned me from commenting or posting anything on your Facebook. Thats a very good and effective way to hide the truth from the world. I hope all of your so-called "Facebook FANS" will see this dispute. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Aug 29 2013, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Aug 29 2013, 01:29 PM)
You have to reply here.
Not on your FB.
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Thanks fruitie. I think that there's no need to explain anymore. Look at the 2 pictures on my reply above. Even his demo is a fake. doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

Mods please take action. He still has another selling thread here.

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post Aug 29 2013, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Aug 29 2013, 01:29 PM)
You have to reply here.
Not on your FB.
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I'm selling in facebook not in forum only. it is fair for the rest of the buyer also know these information not only in the forum


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post Aug 29 2013, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(kennyscj @ Aug 29 2013, 01:42 PM)
I'm selling in facebook not in forum only. it is fair for the rest of the buyer also know these information not only in the forum
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Really? Then why not let me comment in your Facebook page and let me defend myself from all the crap you're telling your customers?

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I see his reply I also find it abit funny.
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post Aug 29 2013, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(Apis_LuaLua @ Aug 29 2013, 12:08 PM)
his thread, details and the link to this dispute already listed in the blacklist thread. Let see until when he gonna keep silent.

btw yes, he checking this thread just now.

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