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> Complaint against kennyscj, Fake badminton racquet

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post Aug 28 2013, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(konakona @ Aug 28 2013, 03:26 PM)
Make a digital copy of the proof. Just in case. Also, keep a timeline for information. Like when you get, and when you discover etc.

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Don't forget to watermark your pictures and proof when you put it out like this.
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Alright thanks for the tip. A picture of the receipt is shown in the first page. Serial number can be seen there. It is also on my racquet shaft. For the front few pictures I'll just leave it since I guess many people have already seen it. Im not good at video editing so I'll just let it go. For the other pictures uploaded after this, I'll watermark it. Thanks. smile.gif
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post Aug 29 2013, 10:21 AM

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Apis_LuaLua The seller is coming online but no more replying to the dispute. Shall we proceed to the next level? Thanks. smile.gif
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post Aug 29 2013, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(kennyscj @ Aug 29 2013, 01:22 PM)
i have nothing to dispute to him/her.

all the information i has give at my facebook fanpage.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.4...58409197&type=3
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Hahah! Guys, look!! He just showed that even his "demo racquet" is fake!!

The first picture he showed us,
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Take of the same sides, hoping nobody would ever realise.

The second picture, posted on Facebook with the caption "Since consumer say I'm expert to do the photo shop. this is the another picture to proof it."
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Look at it for God's sake. Look at the arrows. Its the same as mine! Explains why in the first picture he took of both of the same sides. Because the demo is also a fake? doh.gif


So kenny, I have 2 questions for you.

#1. Why did you take of the same side in the first picture hoping that nobody would notice?

#2. Where is the proof that your demo racquet's balance point is 290-295mm, and that 300+mm will be near the T-joint? cool.gif

Kenny, you're lucky that you have banned me from commenting or posting anything on your Facebook. Thats a very good and effective way to hide the truth from the world. I hope all of your so-called "Facebook FANS" will see this dispute. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Aug 29 2013, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Aug 29 2013, 01:29 PM)
You have to reply here.
Not on your FB.
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Thanks fruitie. I think that there's no need to explain anymore. Look at the 2 pictures on my reply above. Even his demo is a fake. doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

Mods please take action. He still has another selling thread here.

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post Aug 29 2013, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(kennyscj @ Aug 29 2013, 01:42 PM)
I'm selling in facebook not in forum only. it is fair for the rest of the buyer also know these information not only in the forum
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Really? Then why not let me comment in your Facebook page and let me defend myself from all the crap you're telling your customers?

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I see his reply I also find it abit funny.
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post Aug 29 2013, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(kennyscj @ Aug 29 2013, 02:51 PM)
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What the heck? I deleted his comment? How is that even possible?! Seriously..?
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post Aug 29 2013, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(kokmengng @ Aug 29 2013, 03:49 PM)
Newbieeeeee Since when you promoted to "Staff" or "Moderator"?  thumbup.gif
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Shhh! I was promoted to Moderator by se7en. Keep that a secret. Now I can delete comments which I dont like. icon_idea.gif

QUOTE(davlee @ Aug 29 2013, 04:18 PM)
I seriously doubt that F9 limited will have bp near n90 or as head heavy as N90... as mentioned by the seller...

If F9 as head heavy as N90, then it is not as easy to handle like it is now...
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F9's balance point is the highest amongst all of my racquet here. I measured it together with ArcSaberFB, VT80PG, VT9 and Fleet Training Racquet 140g. yawn.gif

QUOTE(pltan @ Aug 29 2013, 04:20 PM)
TS please make a thread in this forum , there are a lot of experienced people who help identify fake rackets.

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/for...ify-Fake-Racket
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Hello. Thank you for the suggestion. Im actually a member of BadmintonCentral as well. Let me settle things here first. This joker seller has banned me from commenting on this Facebook page, and is now black mailing me on his Facebook. I cant even defend myself. sweat.gif


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QUOTE(abcde90 @ Aug 29 2013, 04:22 PM)
Seller respond is a link to his fb instead of replying properly to TS and addressing his concerns.

Nice seller indeed.  doh.gif
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Yes definitely. Look at his replies. He's trying to make it a one-way thing. He's talking about me on his Facebook yet has banned me from commenting. thumbup.gif

QUOTE(kennylooi89 @ Aug 29 2013, 05:01 PM)
Go report police lo...  talk alot for wht?  If u right go a head... spend a lot time here for wht? Too free d???
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Yes New Member with 0 posts. I am indeed too free. You have anything against that? Why are you spending time here reading about my comments? You too free as well? whistling.gif
Dont forget that I can delete your comment anytime I like. flex.gif

QUOTE(Apis_LuaLua @ Aug 29 2013, 05:33 PM)
yup, just simply support without knowledge. Even u bought 20 racquets from him, whats your point? u sure u buying an authentic stuff?
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QUOTE(davlee @ Aug 29 2013, 05:34 PM)
If we are not allowed to talk a lot here, then what is the used of this dispute section? This is also for the good of all others so that we can clarify things up from both ends hence other potential buyer can judge themselves or be warned beforehand...
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Thanks Apis and davlee. I think we should ignore the troll for the time being. Dont feed the troll. I think lowyat forumers have already seen Kennyscj's true face. Thats all I want. smile.gif


p/s: And since I now have the power to delete people's comments, I shall delete his comment soon. smile.gif

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post Aug 29 2013, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(kennyscj @ Aug 29 2013, 04:14 PM)
This is between you and him, nothing to do with me.

i just want to sharing all the information from my facebook.
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Oh really? By what? By banning me from commenting on your posts so that everyone thinks that Im a jerk? rolleyes.gif
Now after digging your own grave by showing a 2 same side picture and a fake demo racquet, you wanna pull another person into this thing to make it 2v1? doh.gif Please. Grow up. Yes, Im 17 and Im telling you to grow up. shakehead.gif
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post Aug 30 2013, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(Henrietta @ Aug 30 2013, 09:33 AM)
TS, if the racquet is confirmed to be a fake/imitation, do consider making a police report if you have not. Else he'd just ignore and continue his 'original product' sales.

It'd help the case if seller had posted proper, detailed explanation on the specific racquet instead of messily throwing information in his FB but I guess he simply isn't bothered about it.

Good luck TS, hope you can get a refund at least. Am a badminton player myself (though super noob), so am very sad to see this kind of problem happening sad.gif
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QUOTE(jie88 @ Aug 30 2013, 12:16 PM)
This is a seller without kuku , only dare to keep avoiding ,  and when people doubt his explanation , he gives people no chance to defend himself by deleting and blocking people to comment . pui
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Hey guys, thanks alot for supporting. I think that there is no point discussing this matter with this seller anymore since he wants to play an unfair game. I hope most lowyat members will see this thread and boycott sellers like this. It is indeed a bitter experience for me but I think enough explanation has been made. Allow his "fans" to continue supporting him and one day when they get it, too late. smile.gif Hope the moderators will take appropriate action towards these kind of sellers. It is almost a week and therefore I am looking forward to him getting a Dispute tag as well as all selling threads closed. Thanks alot guys! smile.gif notworthy.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 6 2013, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(PizzaBoy07 @ Sep 6 2013, 02:42 AM)
Hi,

Sad to hear about the fake racket you bought.

Just out of curiosity, wasn't there a serial sticker on your grip which you can scratch it to get a number and cross check at this website: http://www.kason.com.cn/fw.aspx to see whether your racket is original or not?

I'm also a owner of Kason F9 but not the limited version. My balance point is at the 'F9' word there.

And I did not bought the Kason F9 from Kenny.. haha

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Yes there is a sticker. But apparently it's so badly controlled that even the fakes can bypass the system and shown as genuine. If you compare with my pictures in the first page you'll find out whether yours is genuine or not too. Balance point at F9 seems better than mine. Probably 305-10/15mm. Good. smile.gif
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post Sep 7 2013, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(PizzaBoy07 @ Sep 6 2013, 11:33 AM)
Oh my goodness.. I din know that fakes can even bypass the system  doh.gif

You said earlier that normal balance point should be at 280mm, than mine also can be fake? Since you estimated my Kason F9 balance point at around 305-10/15mm.

Does the way how the grip is wrap (i.e thick vs. thin) affect the balance point? I can't remember i read somewhere that if we wrap the grip thicker the balance point will be lower or in other word the racket head becomes lighter. Am i right?

I grip wrapping are normally thin.
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QUOTE(cedyy @ Sep 6 2013, 09:27 PM)
so yours could be fake too? oh man, where to go to verify if fake or genuine?
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I don't want to be making statements here but 290 is on the good side whereas 295 is a little on the high side. Yes you're right. Adding more weight onto the grip end is going to reduce the balance point. I don't have a way to 100% confirm that it is a real or fake, but if you were to compare your racquet with my pictures on the first page and find out that your racquet is similar to mine, then I'm 90% sure that its a fake. So far after comparing with about 10 racquets, I seem to be the only one who have this paint job problem. And also, no other F9 buyers from Kenny has reported in this thread. If your balance point is on the F9 then it should be alright. Try to make a comparison with my pictures and tell us what you find here. smile.gif

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post Sep 7 2013, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(PizzaBoy07 @ Sep 7 2013, 11:39 PM)
Oh.. If by comparing my racquet with your pictures than it appears ok. No paint defect and its even. Even the bottom grip cap appears to be ok.

I guess the balance point issue is probably due to the way I wrap my grip..

Hope mine its genuine..  smile.gif
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If everything is fine then it should be genuine, no worries! icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 8 2013, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(herojack41 @ Sep 8 2013, 02:33 PM)
although my reply is abit late

selling fake thing as genuine is a scam

it isnt warranty problem here

he is ripping off consumer implying that his product is genuine but in real selling fake things

is a very clear difference here
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nod.gif Thanks bro.

Btw how can I "apply" for a dispute tag for this fella? It has been more than 1 week. Shouldn't all of his threads be deleted? Apis_LuaLua

 

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