lolz i mean the brian vs paul yan match not kyoshi

lolz from wat u had just said i can guess that is either ur a newbie of ur thinking is sort of newbie...or u are just brian fren?

ok since alot of ppl wanna noe and so many freaking ppl pissing off at me for finding faults and blaming TERRAIN...anyway im just wanna share wat i saw and wat i noe...didnt mean to insult any players there..........lets make it easier to understand la...do u all feel any different while playing at thee mid lane by using both sentinal and scourge?especially the cliff up the river.....

nope...

this is the point, no matter u in sentinel or scourge oso got higher ground, point is how to control the creep keep moving to the advantage location often. deny earlier ? not sure.. but brian is no doubt a good player too since he can win paulyan , odin, etc... If u can win paulyan/odin oso we oso say u good player but not lucky

deny ur own creep more...start attacking ur own creep when they orange life, so that ur own creep will be pushed back towards ur own tower...

What he's trying to say is that if you are on the sentinel side, when you get chased by your opponent, you can run into the trees so that the opponent cannot continue chasing. You cannot do this if you are on scourge because the trees are only one row deep.

So in that match, Paulyan would've survived viper strike if he was on sentinels and not on scourge, unless the viper was willing to chase into the trees.

And that is why, at the tournament everyone who won the coin toss picked sentinels.

BUT, are you trying to say that the viper won based on THIS alone?

So, everyone who won on sentinels was lucky, and only those who won on scourge are good?

Or does this rule apply only when one of the players picks viper, and the opponent can survive viper strike IF he can escape into the trees?

Auto | b3n won with pugna while on sentinels. He played damn well. Are you saying he was lucky?

This post has been edited by bcswen: Dec 19 2006, 09:14 AM

ON ANOTHER NOTE, that -Zc- you are constantly advertising for, and whose name you happen to spell SO accurately with the space bar after the dash and what not *cough* *cough* JUST SO HAPPENED to beat nataku while he was on sentinels, and I dare say, those trees helped him a lot.

Yes, the terrain different colour, trees on scourge side also deader.

har......lolz not helping >.<"..besides wat i wanna say is sentinal got better advantage becoz once u are up the cliff a few steps more u will in in the tower range...and theres alot of gap around the tower to walk around and hide...for scourge theres a big space infront of tower which give enemy a better chance for controling the game and harrassing opposite player...i just wanna share my opinion and point of view no harm men...no point screwing me la brader.........any 1 agree of wat i had just said?

and for odin...i really donno why he choose necrolic T_T...among all the heroes...no chance at all againts viper...

and for odin...i really donno why he choose necrolic T_T...among all the heroes...no chance at all againts viper...

Correct worr... i am damn newbie... but at least i got admit and not pretend to be pro and concoct weird excuses for pple, just for the sake of looking pro. Are there any other agendas behind your posts, Mr.Pro LionHeart?
Time and time again u keep saying geometrical factors and luck won the game. But you, mr.Pro, also never explain at all in the end... despite many players asking you directly for the reason.

Please post up what exactly geometrical factors mean, instead of saying it and then asking for other's opinions.

Please share us your sagely wisdom so we can become pro like you.

Unlike you, i think all the mentioned players are pros and played great games.

He didnt even bother to block the creep. Since level 1, he bought a basillus and start attacking mid tower. All he need is lvl 3 to destroy that tower....

Very simple. The key to one on one is to concentrate on denying, not on farming. Denying comes first, farming comes later. If its a viper vs viper match, the fastest viper reach lvl 5 has more advantage.

God damn true. b3n seriously played well. when i was there, i was half asleep and his interesting playing style somehow caffeineted me

Agreed. That -zc- appeared to be lucky to beat nataku. Nataku made a mistake and missed his last hit to kill -zc-'s pugna, thus zc has the chance to buy his items while nataku only stuck with a perseverance with little life and mana

Nope because anyone who blocked their creep most and denied their creep most would've had FAR better advantage than your so called terrain factor.

bscwen had debated about the terrain factor and i am lazy to repeat the same point

This post has been edited by d(@@)b: Dec 19 2006, 05:15 PM

Aiya damn rugi i wasnt their, i was just playing somewhere near only, anyone does the name SunCrusher rings any bell to u guys .

That's his best hero ba....All the time he use that hero in tourney....he must have absolutely confidence in it since he is using it in 1v1 match...

[[TOTALLY]] agree with wat u said..... if u can beat the 2 memang is a pro and not luck...u can get lucky once but not twice againts some of the best malaysian Dota players...Now is time for u to prove ur worth JAMESLIONHEARt...I should like to see ur theory in working...If Dota is like physics...

flying spaghetti monster

very interesting thing..
but i think most of the people know the "terrain" advantage but if want to say it is "terrain" why don't just say it is BLIND spot? i think it will more easy to understand. well sentinel has more advantange in mid lane :/ i also need some time to understand what you try to say -.-"

Sentinel side have more blind spot then scourge side, so when your Scourge side hero at river there, probably can't see the Sentinel side hero at the higher ground there, especially at night time.
erm quit hard to explain by word, just need to know that, 1 on 1 not only on deny and farming skill, who can play well with the blind spot, also have an advantage.
Try and play around with those blind spot, quit fun ^^
and yes, who at lower ground probably will have alot disadvantages.. who can control the creep well is lead him to win... v6.37 not hard to control, but the sohai 6.38b version, who know how to control the creep wave ?? the two stupid big car very disgusting -.-" hope new version will remove that !

waaa i lose to zc got conference like that wan...wonder if he self promoting hehe lucky he din kick me outta the group or else even worst